+drsolly Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 I'm currently using an under-and-over knot, plus a bow. But they keep coming undone, maybe a couple of times per outing. I think the main cause is brambles grabbing them and loosening them. This means that I have to stop and retie them, which isn't as easy as it used to be when I had less padding around the middle. Does anyone have any suggestions for how to cure this horrific problem? The bootlaces that is, not the padding. Quote Link to comment
+PopUpPirate Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Merrell Moc's http://froogle.google.co.uk/froogle?q=merr...le&ct=title Quote Link to comment
NickPick Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Don't tie them - use a cord grip (like the one on the waist elastic of your fleece) to hold the 2 together, and pull them as tight as you like. One of my friends likes this method, but I don't - you have to cut the laces to be short enough to not trip over, and when you want to take them off, the laces then aren't long enough to get the boot off comfortably. It might be due to the material of the lace. a slippery material like polypropelene would slip out easier, but a rougher material like cotton might grip against itself better, allowing you to tie them tighter and resist more force from the grabbing brambles. Another option: wear gaiters over the top of your boots. They will cover up the laces and keep the brambles away from them. another option - get Ladysolly to tie them for you Quote Link to comment
+scanker Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 For shoelace geeks: http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/knots.htm I use the Secure Shoelace Knot - works a treat and undoes with one pull. Quote Link to comment
+The HERB5 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Try this PS They are great shoes.... Quote Link to comment
+The Blorenges Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 I have a pair of short leggings that go over the boot tops and up round the ankles. Stops brambles snagging and also keeps the wet out! Chris Quote Link to comment
Nediam Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 (edited) I'm currently using an under-and-over knot, plus a bow. ...... Easy and free method..... After you have done the first bow knot and pulled it tight, do a second knot using the loops Just don't pull it too tight or you'll struggle to get them undone! To release them; put the palm of your hand through one of the loops, take up the slack, then wiggle your hand. If they are loose enough you should be able to start to pull the end of the lace towards the knot. Don't pull it straight though, instead, take hold of the end that moved and pull it away from the knot. They should then come undone quite easily. Edited March 28, 2007 by Nediam Quote Link to comment
+Kitty Hawk Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 It could be just 'the wrong laces' But, something I've been told, and it works for me - if you cross them over and extra time in the 1st stage of the bow they stay done up better. Quote Link to comment
markandlynn Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Round laces come undone more easily swap them for the flat type which are also easier to get clean. For our kids we use the old double knot and patience to get them undome when muddy Quote Link to comment
+Bear and Ragged Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Double bow. ie another bow over the first. Gaiters help, nothing to get snagged. Also found that laces become loose from the front... The slack from the toe end works its way up to the leg and then the laces become loose. I solve this by looping the laces around the eye/hooks a time or two before tieing the bow. G Quote Link to comment
Deceangi Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 You could always try this method, holds perfectly even when wet, and is easy to undo Unthread the lace and tie a stopper knot in one end. Start threading the lace from the bottom up, going through the first hole from the inside to out. After putting your boot on and tightening the lace, take the free end snugly around the top of the boot once or twice. Tuck the free end underneath the turns just past were it comes out of the last hole or hook. pull tight in the reverse direction and tuck the free end around the bound part a couple of times using up the free end. A SQMS taught me the method and under all conditions, I never had a lace come undone. Quote Link to comment
markandlynn Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Double bow. ie another bow over the first. Gaiters help, nothing to get snagged. Also found that laces become loose from the front... The slack from the toe end works its way up to the leg and then the laces become loose. I solve this by looping the laces around the eye/hooks a time or two before tieing the bow. G Ahh buy some miendly boots they have a lace gripper halfway up to help you have different tension in the lower half to the upper half really usefull on the bigger hills as are walking poles Quote Link to comment
+Boardslider Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 A SQMS taught me the method and under all conditions, I never had a lace come undone. And with practice can be done with one hand Quote Link to comment
+Goonies Oosterhout Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 This is a joke, isn't it? I don't know how it's done in the UK, but in The Netherlands preschool kids are taught how to tighten their shoes. What do you wear when you're not hiking? Shoes with Velcro? Slippers? Quote Link to comment
Izzy and the Lizard King Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Surely geo-laces are intended to come undone regularly to facilitate the retrieval and replacement of caches, particularly in muggle intensive areas. Quote Link to comment
Moss Trooper Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 A SQMS taught me the method and under all conditions, I never had a lace come undone. And with practice can be done with one hand And tends to be better wearing high ankle boots.. DMS, Patrol Boots, Magnums etc. Still wear me high boots.. I didnt for one walk an bust me ankle.. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Quote Link to comment
+Mr'D Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Sitting here with a boot on my desk when I should be working! I love the look of the 'Ian knot', but can I do it? NO Quote Link to comment
+third-degree-witch Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Squeeze a whole tube of superglue in each boot then put the boots on...Hey Presto ! Quote Link to comment
+Mad H@ter Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 put toggle on each lace (from sue) Quote Link to comment
+jerryo Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 (edited) Not sure if any of the other posters' links have said this but here's an idea: When you tie a lace, if you then pull the loops through to form a knot, you should end up with a reef knot. If you do this and what you get is NOT a reef knot (loads of pics on the Interweb) then that's what your problem is. You'll be looking at a thief knot or a grief knot instead. Basically if you're first tying is left over right and under and it's not right afterwards as described above and you don't have the makings of a reef knot then try right over left and under before making your loops. You don't need any fancy gizmos either. Voilà Edited March 28, 2007 by jerryo Quote Link to comment
+Malpas Wanderer Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 How about doing the same as a man that I saw when returning from GCZV2E today. He was bare foot! The paths were hard gravel littered with hedge prunings etc. rather him than me! I know my wellies were a bit OTT today but bare feet!!!! Quote Link to comment
+drsolly Posted March 28, 2007 Author Share Posted March 28, 2007 Squeeze a whole tube of superglue in each boot then put the boots on...Hey Presto ! I tried that. The boots stay on! But the laces still come untied, and trip me over :-( Quote Link to comment
+drsolly Posted March 28, 2007 Author Share Posted March 28, 2007 For shoelace geeks: http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/knots.htm I use the Secure Shoelace Knot - works a treat and undoes with one pull. Thanks, I'm going to try that suggestion. I never knew there was more than one way to do up shoelaces! Quote Link to comment
The Red Kite Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Try tying the laces in a bow, then a double knot, then tucking all the loose ends down inside the shoes. Works for me Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Over Under, Bow, then tie the Bow in an over under. I think some others have said that in different words. Also for some reason Round Laces made out of Synthetic materils don't hold as well as the normal Boot Laces. Boot Laces that are round but the rouger material seem to hold better... Quote Link to comment
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