+hobbycachegirl Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Question for the group. My design was slightly different than the other tags available. With the hole being a bit futher into the tag. What would the group like to see, closer to the edge like ZSandmann or where I originally had it? I can easily change the wording on the back. And am willing to make this change. I will make a decision based on feedback here before email with template is sent out. We don't have any strong preference about the position of the hole. Whatever the group decides is fine and can work for us. Quote Link to comment
avroair Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 I just saw this too. I am interested in getting some if it aint too late. I already have micro coins but these could be fun to penny-lock someone's door with. Quote Link to comment
+AtwellFamily Posted March 12, 2007 Author Share Posted March 12, 2007 Just saw this and was a bit curious. It appears to be an obvious reproduction of the existing PathTag, but trackable like a coin. If this is a totally new entity, has this already been approved by Groundspeak? Or does it just fall under geocoin status for the sake of tracking? I got the idea in the thread about the other tags, when someone mentioned they were not trackable at all. I originally thought they were at least trackable on their own site but from my understanding they all have the same number just to identify the owner of the design. I have been working direct with a mint so asked them to quote the idea and if I could get in the price range I mentioned I thought there might be a market. As kealia was nice enough to point out these are more like a micro geocoin. The idea was to produce a personalized item like a coin, which could be attached like a bug, at the price point of a tag. I think I am very close if not bang on. And to answer your other question, before posting anything here I did get approval from Groundspeak. They mentioned each design would need to be approved since it will have a tracking number on it. My guess is I made a compelling argument. The Geo 40 and other projects that have started like that have individual artwork, with 1 icon. These still will be metal as to meet another requirement that I am aware of. Lately I agreed to the artwork approval which should be no big deal. Long responce to a short question but I could see more question arrising from this discussion. p.s. As far as a new entity, I have not decided to start a new business with these. I am trying to price these as direct as possible but that may change in the future, lt me see how this first batch goes. Right now these look good, 40+ people in for almost 2000 total. Quote Link to comment
+fox-and-the-hound Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 (edited) Just saw this and was a bit curious. It appears to be an obvious reproduction of the existing PathTag, but trackable like a coin. If this is a totally new entity, has this already been approved by Groundspeak? Or does it just fall under geocoin status for the sake of tracking? I got the idea in the thread about the other tags, when someone mentioned they were not trackable at all. I originally thought they were at least trackable on their own site but from my understanding they all have the same number just to identify the owner of the design. I have been working direct with a mint so asked them to quote the idea and if I could get in the price range I mentioned I thought there might be a market. As kealia was nice enough to point out these are more like a micro geocoin. The idea was to produce a personalized item like a coin, which could be attached like a bug, at the price point of a tag. I think I am very close if not bang on. And to answer your other question, before posting anything here I did get approval from Groundspeak. They mentioned each design would need to be approved since it will have a tracking number on it. My guess is I made a compelling argument. The Geo 40 and other projects that have started like that have individual artwork, with 1 icon. These still will be metal as to meet another requirement that I am aware of. Lately I agreed to the artwork approval which should be no big deal. Long responce to a short question but I could see more question arrising from this discussion. p.s. As far as a new entity, I have not decided to start a new business with these. I am trying to price these as direct as possible but that may change in the future, lt me see how this first batch goes. Right now these look good, 40+ people in for almost 2000 total. Well then that's pretty cool if TPTB say go for it! A personal micro at a good price is definitely something that would appeal to many and it's a great chance to see even more coins start showing up in caches again. Edited March 12, 2007 by fox-and-the-hound Quote Link to comment
+Crowesfeat30 Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Closer to the edge, unless you have a template for us to work off of, that is. I think most design ideas are using the template from the "other" site. CF30 I was going to provide one. Yay!! Then I will wait a bit before trying to modify my design . CF30 Quote Link to comment
ParentsofSAM Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 I think you should call the GeoTags. The custom prefix could be GT. If they can be delivered before GW5 (no later than 5/22) and have an agreeable price then I am in for 30 - 50 of them. Hurry with the template so we can start on the design. Is the size about 25mm? Quote Link to comment
+AtwellFamily Posted March 12, 2007 Author Share Posted March 12, 2007 I think you should call the GeoTags. The custom prefix could be GT. If they can be delivered before GW5 (no later than 5/22) and have an agreeable price then I am in for 30 - 50 of them. Hurry with the template so we can start on the design. Is the size about 25mm? I think the 5/22 date may be attainable. I will have a template to everyone by Wednesday. The size is closer to 32mm (1.25"), is that to big? GeoTag...There is nothing out there called that? Quote Link to comment
avroair Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 The size is closer to 32mm (1.25"), is that to big? Typically, micro coins are 1" diameter (not radius), 1.25 would be just under the size of the regular 1.5" Quote Link to comment
general_tupperware Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 This is what I have in mind: But I have no idea how to fill in the outer ring Or perhaps make the crow smaller so it is wholly inside the red ring (but I don't know how to do that either...) Any suggestions? Thanks! CF30 Working on it with my newly acquired photoshop trial... Quote Link to comment
+ZSandmann Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Yes I'd like the hole closer to the edge BUT not so close that a key ring loop would wear through the metal. I'm really liking this idea the more I read on it. It has all the coolness of the tags and the benefit of on site tracking like a geocoin. Possible Names: I like PoS's GeoTag Pico -- RE: Personal Micro MyTag MiCoin MyCoin MEcro <--- I actually kinda like this. Quote Link to comment
+tsunrisebey Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 I like the 1.25 size. Don't mke it smaller. Quote Link to comment
+Smort78 Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 I also like the 1.25 size, and the cutout as it is... Quote Link to comment
+ZSandmann Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Size isn't a big issue to me. I'd probably release a few as microcoins and most would have travelers attached. Whats the width of a film can? Quote Link to comment
glennk721 Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Greets all, been watching this thread, this is a 1.25 IN coin in a film can at the middle not pushed to the bottom, it distorts the canister but the lid pops right on in place . Please keep in mind that this 1.25" coin is 3MM thick. Glenn Quote Link to comment
+Marky Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Put us down as interested, depending on the final price and minimum order qty. It sounds very similar to the Geocaching the Top 40 project, only smaller. We missed out on that one, somehow, but are interested in joining this one as long as the cost is reasonable (and it sounds like it will be). --Marky Quote Link to comment
+Marky Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 (edited) GeoTag...There is nothing out there called that? Sounds kinda like a GPS game you'd play at an event cache. Edited March 12, 2007 by Marky Quote Link to comment
+rasj & Stacey Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Depending on final price, I am interested in at least the minimum number, possibly more. Quote Link to comment
+EScout Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 25 to 50 for me. Good idea. Thanks. Quote Link to comment
glennk721 Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Couple of more pics. Film Can closed with 1.25in coin enclosed,, Quote Link to comment
+ZSandmann Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Couple of more pics. Film Can closed with 1.25in coin enclosed,, Good, so if it were a bit thinner it would fit even better I'd assume. Course gotta consider a log in there as well. Quote Link to comment
+UOTrackers Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 I think I'd like to get in on this too with 25-50 depending on price as well. I have our Tracker Tag (not a path tag) being worked on too, so I'll be inundated with small coins! Yippee!!! I'm also available to help others with their art if they so desire! Quote Link to comment
glennk721 Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 (edited) Good, so if it were a bit thinner it would fit even better I'd assume. Course gotta consider a log in there as well. I don't see why not that is a 1.25" 3MM coin in there, so indeed plenty of room. EDIT opps Mike I would like in, min 50 QTY, once cost is nailed down may up order Thanks, Glenn Edited March 12, 2007 by glennk721 Quote Link to comment
avroair Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Greets all, been watching this thread, this is a 1.25 IN coin in a film can at the middle not pushed to the bottom, it distorts the canister but the lid pops right on in place . Please keep in mind that this 1.25" coin is 3MM thick. Glenn I have found that 1.25" is too big for a film cannister. Distorting the cannister is a bad thing, especially with weather like we have in the north east, a seal can't be made and the log and inside of the cache get wet. Also, alot of caches are the black cannisters / gray topped cannisters whose tops pop off easier than the clear one shown. Quote Link to comment
glennk721 Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 (edited) I have found that 1.25" is too big for a film cannister. Distorting the cannister is a bad thing, especially with weather like we have in the north east, a seal can't be made and the log and inside of the cache get wet. Also, alot of caches are the black cannisters / gray topped cannisters whose tops pop off easier than the clear one shown. Mark good point, down here its only hot and hotter . This is a thick coin though, 3MM The photo is also a bit misleading its not that out of round, the direction I took the photo shows more distortion, will try a direct downward shot,, Mike from the Atwell family whats the thickness of this coin item ? Edited March 12, 2007 by glennk721 Quote Link to comment
glennk721 Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 (edited) Ok this is using a black film can, its actually a bit larger in diameter then the white ! It is hardly at all out of round and top goes on as it was empty And yes same 1.25 3mm Coin inside ,,, Edited March 12, 2007 by glennk721 Quote Link to comment
+AtwellFamily Posted March 12, 2007 Author Share Posted March 12, 2007 (edited) Thanks Glenn for the pics, plan on coin being 2mm thick. Thanks POS for the name GeoTags. Worth your while... Have some new artwork and finializing information. See what I put together today (who needs to work anyway ) I should have final pricing, template and dates ready by Wednesday. I will be ordering samples of mine ASAP. I may also add a catch line like "Tag You're It!" to the back. Edited March 12, 2007 by Atwell Family Quote Link to comment
+PennyPacker Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Thanks Glenn for the pics, plan on coin being 2mm thick. Thanks POS for the name GeoTags. Worth your while... Have some new artwork and finializing information. See what I put together today (who needs to work anyway ) I should have final pricing, template and dates ready by Wednesday. I will be ordering samples of mine ASAP. I may also add a catch line like "Tag You're It!" to the back. I think this looks even better than the first version. If you're gonna throw on that last line, you might want to make it say, "Tag, You're It!". Quote Link to comment
+wsgaskins Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 I may also add a catch line like "Tag You're It!" to the back. I must say, the back looks much nicer now. Isn't WordArt a cool tool? I have not yet found anything better to do curved text... and I've been looking! If you add the catch line, be sure to get some additional punctuation in there somewhere... Like: "Tag, You're It!" or "Tag! You're it! Otherwise, people will be asking: "Tag my *what* ??" The other suggestion that I have is to put the more complete website address on the back. Like this: "Track @ geocaching.com/track" Quote Link to comment
+wsgaskins Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 PP beat me to the punch --- while i was considering which smiley to add to my post, no doubt! Quote Link to comment
+NorthWes Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Hmmm - I like this. I'm interested in 50... A grand twist! Now to the artwork... Quote Link to comment
+GeoSmurfz Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Thanks Glenn for the pics, plan on coin being 2mm thick. Thanks POS for the name GeoTags. Worth your while... Have some new artwork and finializing information. See what I put together today (who needs to work anyway ) I should have final pricing, template and dates ready by Wednesday. I will be ordering samples of mine ASAP. I may also add a catch line like "Tag You're It!" to the back. I really like the GeoTags name. Also the new one that you did looks great. Also putting "Tag, You're It" on there sounds great. Quote Link to comment
+AtwellFamily Posted March 12, 2007 Author Share Posted March 12, 2007 Artwork updated with Tag line... Quote Link to comment
+fairyhoney Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Yea, the words "geotag" sound nice!! Quote Link to comment
ParentsofSAM Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Woohoo...now on to some artwork! Quote Link to comment
avroair Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Ok this is using a black film can, its actually a bit larger in diameter then the white ! It is hardly at all out of round and top goes on as it was empty And yes same 1.25 3mm Coin inside ,,, Cool. Ok so what is the ordering\making process. 1. submit frontside artwork to atwell 2. decide on number you want etc... Quote Link to comment
+tsunrisebey Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Thanks Glenn for the pics, plan on coin being 2mm thick. Thanks POS for the name GeoTags. Worth your while... Have some new artwork and finializing information. See what I put together today (who needs to work anyway ) I should have final pricing, template and dates ready by Wednesday. I will be ordering samples of mine ASAP. I may also add a catch line like "Tag You're It!" to the back. Good play on words, I like it. Tsun. Quote Link to comment
+Anthus Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 What a great idea! I just may have to get in on this one too. I like GeoTag as long as it isn't used for something else. I was going to suggest that but POS beat me to it. I first started to use the term "geotag" when I was looking into the trolley coins a few weeks ago. But, I didn't check to see if it was being used by anyone else. If it isn't, then that would be a perfect name for these. Quote Link to comment
+GPX Navigators Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 What a great idea! I just may have to get in on this one too. I like GeoTag as long as it isn't used for something else. I was going to suggest that but POS beat me to it. I first started to use the term "geotag" when I was looking into the trolley coins a few weeks ago. But, I didn't check to see if it was being used by anyone else. If it isn't, then that would be a perfect name for these. If we can't use GeoTag I like MicroTag but not sure if that is already in use. Quote Link to comment
+AtwellFamily Posted March 12, 2007 Author Share Posted March 12, 2007 (edited) What a great idea! I just may have to get in on this one too. I like GeoTag as long as it isn't used for something else. I was going to suggest that but POS beat me to it. I first started to use the term "geotag" when I was looking into the trolley coins a few weeks ago. But, I didn't check to see if it was being used by anyone else. If it isn't, then that would be a perfect name for these. I did a search for GeoTag and nothing came up. Send email to Groundspeak to check as well and to see if I can get GT prefix. It was your thread that got me thinking about this idea. I has taken a few weeks to put this much info together. I have the deatils almost finalized. Will send email with link to an ordering page. Need to get page working for. On a side note. This geocaching thing has gotten my in to coins and the coins got me to learn some php for my website. I almost have things ready. Just need to hear back from mint a few issues. Edited March 12, 2007 by Atwell Family Quote Link to comment
+0R0B0RUS Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 This is just to good of an idea to miss out on! Please count me in for 25 minimum. I like GeoTag! IMHO while I liked the idea of the pathtag, the trackability of a geocoin is preferable. Quote Link to comment
Son of Cyclops Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 I thought I saw someone post 1.5 a pop but my mistake. Anyway, I am willing to have 1 or 2 made depending on the price and only 25 of each. Quote Link to comment
+find waldo Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Depending on price, we'd be interested in 50 -100 of these coins. Please put us on your list. Quote Link to comment
+ZSandmann Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 (edited) Atwell Family: If GeoTag turns out unavailable I've listed a few more suggestions up the page a bit. Maybe something can come from them. Hard to believe it wouldn't already of been used but here's for hoping cause if Tag isn't in the name somewhere I have to change my art. Edited March 12, 2007 by ZSandmann Quote Link to comment
fivedime Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Shaping up nicely...I like the new design & the GeoTags name. Cool! Back to my original question...can the coins/tags have cut-out areas? Quote Link to comment
+usyoopers Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 These are really looking good! Put us down for 50. Thanks much for the work on this project!! Quote Link to comment
+AtwellFamily Posted March 12, 2007 Author Share Posted March 12, 2007 Shaping up nicely...I like the new design & the GeoTags name. Cool! Back to my original question...can the coins/tags have cut-out areas? Simple 2d art. The only cutout is the hole already part of the tag. Sorry All those kind of extras start adding cost. Quote Link to comment
ParentsofSAM Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 (edited) Here is my VERY preliminary art, done with my pitiful art skills: I want it to look something like this but nicer. I also know I forgot the hole...have to fix that later. Like I said this is the really rough draft....... Edited March 12, 2007 by ParentsofSAM Quote Link to comment
+tsunrisebey Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 I worked on my coin today in my paint program, I think it turned out great! It's so easy to work from a laptop using my mousepad. If I can do it you can too! Good thing I don't make my living from artwork done by my computer. I was just checking to see how "easy" it is to draw in paint and well, I suck. Quote Link to comment
fivedime Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Shaping up nicely...I like the new design & the GeoTags name. Cool! Back to my original question...can the coins/tags have cut-out areas? Simple 2d art. The only cutout is the hole already part of the tag. Sorry All those kind of extras start adding cost. Ok, thanks! Just wanted to get a handle on what I can get away with. Quote Link to comment
+AtwellFamily Posted March 12, 2007 Author Share Posted March 12, 2007 I worked on my coin today in my paint program, I think it turned out great! It's so easy to work from a laptop using my mousepad. If I can do it you can too! Good thing I don't make my living from artwork done by my computer. I was just checking to see how "easy" it is to draw in paint and well, I suck. I love it. It looks like the Petroglyph you requested in your thread. If you send me your # in an email, I'll help you a bit with your attempt. Just to teach you some. Quote Link to comment
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