chuckr30 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Have a story about rude cachers you encountered or saw from a distance? Tell it here. Just remember, just because they have an official mental disorder does not mean it gives them to right to break the law or be rude. It merely explains why they are a poopy head. Quote Link to comment
+Blue Power Ranger Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Have a story about rude cachers you encountered or saw from a distance? Tell it here. Just remember, just because they have an official mental disorder does not mean it gives them to right to break the law or be rude. It merely explains why they are a poopy head. Sounds like you might have a story to share yourself. Care to elaborate? Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 This is my angst free weekend so I'll skip this one. (that and I just don't have any stories off the top of my head) Quote Link to comment
+TotemLake Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Yah that sounded like a backhanded way of complaining. Quote Link to comment
+CYBret Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 (edited) I've had several , but I can't imagine needing to post about any of them here. Life's too short for those kind of hang ups....breathe in, breathe out, move on. Bret Edited January 26, 2007 by CYBret Quote Link to comment
+jellis Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 (edited) What rude cachers? Edited January 26, 2007 by jellis50 Quote Link to comment
+TheAlabamaRambler Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Proud to report that I have had zero unpleasant encounters with geocachers! I don't know what it is that attracts good folk to this game, but I have never met a cacher I didn't like. Even the few I get sideways with in the forums from time to time turn out to be great folks when I meet them at events! Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 (edited) When I find a nice container like an ammo box, I like to take it and swap in a Gladware container. That's pretty rude. And to top it off, I complain about the lousy container in the log. Edited January 26, 2007 by briansnat Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 When I find a nice container like an ammo box, I like to take it and swap in a Gladware container. That's pretty rude. And to top it off, I complain about the lousy container in the log. Quote Link to comment
+frivlas Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I've had very few encounters with rude cachers, and I wouldn't post them here, because some people are really good at digging up details. Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Several Rude Cachers. One threatened to adjust my attitude for not letting him log an ALR cache. One steals caches in general and a few of mine in specific. That's pretty rude. One blew a gasket over a lack of communications on a problem he was having (we finally figured out it was his email, not a lack of communications), and at least one cacher can't seem to honor coin trades and it pretty rude and belligerent about it. I've also had a mod email me a pre-emptive threat regarding the sanctity of their forum after a serious answer to an honest question about why their forum had less angst than the main geocaching one. You can get through life without being rude and still fully convey your meaning and stand your ground. Rude is entirely optional. Quote Link to comment
+flask Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 what's the point of this thread other than to stir up trouble? (oh, i'm sorry... was that rude?) Quote Link to comment
+Isonzo Karst Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 When I find a nice container like an ammo box, I like to take it and swap in a Gladware container and that, boys and girls, is how briansnat manages to own 140 + ammo can hides....see, it's easy really Quote Link to comment
+bilbad Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Yeah my cosin and friend! They took me on my first geocaching experience and as we were bushwackin through some really tall grass (over my head tall and I am 5' 10") I kinda stepped in a hole... well maybe a ditch it was like 5 or 6 feet deep and with the grass I never saw it. So in I went head first but nothing got broken and rather then ask if I was ok or help me up or something ....they LAUGHED! Then they wished they brought the camera! How rude!!! (seriously though it was pretty funny to me too..how embarrasin) Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 When I find a nice container like an ammo box, I like to take it and swap in a Gladware container and that, boys and girls, is how briansnat manages to own 140 + ammo can hides....see, it's easy really Well it would be expensive if I had to buy them all. Quote Link to comment
+Tahoein' Bunch Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Some of my Best Freinds Are Cachers ( Rude not a one of them) Have only met a few in the wild but the ones i have met have been great less than a year caching but i love this stuff......Can't we all Just get along? Hey Brain I need 20 ammo boxes $2.00ea whaha say? (LOL) Greg Quote Link to comment
+ePeterso2 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Can't we all Just get along? Yes, we can ... some folks just choose not to :-) -eP Quote Link to comment
+ReadyOrNot Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Does this include the forums? I'd like to think that people behave differently in the real world. My FFTF experience was a bad one, but I think that was because of my own perception problems. Other than that, everyone I have met has always been nice. Now as far as the forums, is there a space limit per post? Quote Link to comment
+gh patriot Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I have loged found 227 caches in the month and a half that I've been caching and I have NEVER even saw another cacher!!! Quote Link to comment
+Snoogans Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 It's hard to discuss this topic without getting specific but it CAN be done. This is a valid topic and worthy of careful, guarded, discussion. I have had several run-ins with rude/controlling cachers by email, but nothing really worth mentioning that happened in person. Not to be sexist, but just stating a fact, in my case, around 75% or more of the rude behavior has been from women. Don't ask me why, 'cuz I haven't a clue and I'm not implying anything by it. It's just an interesting personal geocaching statistic that is completely opposite of my experiences everywhere else in life. Most but hardly all of the rude/controlling behavior has concerned travel bugs due to unrealistic expectations and of those encounters the ones that mystify me the most are from cachers that don't even own the bug in question. Those latter folks always seem kinda creepy to me. Some of it has been from judgmental/controlling types that never had an opinion they couldn't keep to themselves. Those ones are the most fun. I had one run-in that bothered me for quite some time until I met the guy and true to character, I liked him. I never met a geocacher I didn't like, but sadly I've met a couple now that through their own actions have given me reason to dislike them. Some folks have a disconnect between their brain and their keyboard or they have some serious problems with social skills. Others are just plain sad and angry with world and will jump at any chance to lash out. Thankfully those types are few and far between. They usually go away when they don't get to feed off the reaction they wished to provoke. Sadly though, they are creatures of habit and sometimes return. Okay, leaving careful & guarded territory somewhat behind. Didn't I say it was hard not to be specific? There's only one encounter that stands alone. A guy that, I guess, wanted to use me to prove some sort of point to Groundspeak and complained on me and he even had the gall to send me a copy of his complaint ala "nanny nanny boo boo." He was immediately outed as a sockpuppet and I busted him in a blatant lie and he was even outed to me by his own companion just a little after the fact. The whole thing got laughed off by TPTB and I got a strange prophetic buzz over the encounter, because I had actually predicted that this person could be capable of what he tried to do (even though I had never met him and he lived close to 2,000 miles away) in an email dated almost a year earlier. Talk about having a twilight zone moment. All I gotta say is Gmail is a wonderful thing. I never delete ANY personal correspondence. CYA is one habit not worth breaking. BTW don't ask, it was almost a year ago now..... Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 here's only one encounter that stands alone. A guy that, I guess, wanted to use me to prove some sort of point to Groundspeak and complained on me and he even had the gall to send me a copy of his complaint ala "nanny nanny boo boo." He was immediately outed as a sockpuppet and I busted him in a blatant lie and he was even outed to me by his own companion just a little after the fact. The whole thing got laughed off by TPTB and I got a strange prophetic buzz over the encounter, because I had actually predicted that this person could be capable of what he tried to do (even though I had never met him and he lived close to 2,000 miles away) in an email dated almost a year earlier. Talk about having a twilight zone moment. All I gotta say is Gmail is a wonderful thing. I never delete ANY personal correspondence. CYA is one habit not worth breaking. bad_boy_animated.gif ph34r.gif BTW don't ask, it was almost a year ago now..... Sorry about that. I really didn't mean anything by it. Quote Link to comment
+Snoogans Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 (edited) here's only one encounter that stands alone. A guy that, I guess, wanted to use me to prove some sort of point to Groundspeak and complained on me and he even had the gall to send me a copy of his complaint ala "nanny nanny boo boo." He was immediately outed as a sockpuppet and I busted him in a blatant lie and he was even outed to me by his own companion just a little after the fact. The whole thing got laughed off by TPTB and I got a strange prophetic buzz over the encounter, because I had actually predicted that this person could be capable of what he tried to do (even though I had never met him and he lived close to 2,000 miles away) in an email dated almost a year earlier. Talk about having a twilight zone moment. All I gotta say is Gmail is a wonderful thing. I never delete ANY personal correspondence. CYA is one habit not worth breaking. bad_boy_animated.gif ph34r.gif BTW don't ask, it was almost a year ago now..... Sorry about that. I really didn't mean anything by it. That gave me a chuckle. Anyhoo, I think that guy is either banned (and I don't think it was over what I just mentioned) or he's keeping a very low profile. Edited January 26, 2007 by Snoogans Quote Link to comment
+Super_Nate Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 For me, I have never had a problem with rude cachers. I don't care if I have never met the person, if I am on vacation and someone is looking for a cache we will have a conversation with each other as if we knew each other from highschool.....except less highschool talk, more caching talk. Rude cachers......Nope Rude Cacher Forum Posters...... Quote Link to comment
+Team LaLonde Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 (edited) It's been our experience that most geocachers are much like campers. They are a very social, fun-loving group who never turn away strangers. We have yet to have an unpleasant experience in this game. Someone pass the marshmallows! Edited January 26, 2007 by Team LaLonde Quote Link to comment
+AMMOMAN Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I have never had to deal with a"rude" cacher. Does it happen so often that it needs to be discussed? Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 When I find a nice container like an ammo box, I like to take it and swap in a Gladware container. That's pretty rude. And to top it off, I complain about the lousy container in the log. Ah! That explains the series Find Briansnat's Ammo Can! As to rude cachers, I've probably met fifty geocachers while caching, and not one of them has been rude! (Not even the ones that I beat to FTF by a minute or less!) Rude cache owners and rude loggers are a different story. "What do you mean I actually have to sign the log? We don't do it that way where I come from." And I won't go into cachers who think that a webcam is a virtual cache! Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 here's only one encounter that stands alone. A guy that, I guess, wanted to use me to prove some sort of point to Groundspeak and complained on me and he even had the gall to send me a copy of his complaint ala "nanny nanny boo boo." He was immediately outed as a sockpuppet and I busted him in a blatant lie and he was even outed to me by his own companion just a little after the fact. The whole thing got laughed off by TPTB and I got a strange prophetic buzz over the encounter, because I had actually predicted that this person could be capable of what he tried to do (even though I had never met him and he lived close to 2,000 miles away) in an email dated almost a year earlier. Talk about having a twilight zone moment. All I gotta say is Gmail is a wonderful thing. I never delete ANY personal correspondence. CYA is one habit not worth breaking. bad_boy_animated.gif ph34r.gif BTW don't ask, it was almost a year ago now..... Sorry about that. I really didn't mean anything by it. On behalf of all forum posters, I accept your apology. Quote Link to comment
+Team Perks Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 I think the rudest cachers I've met have been in these forums. Jeremy & his crew seemed to do a pretty good job of dealing with them quickly. I'm really having trouble thinking of any cacher I've met in person who was an out-and-out jerk. I think they're a generally decent bunch of people. Quote Link to comment
Clan Riffster Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 I've only met a handfull of cachers in the wild. All were very pleasant. I've met a few gazillion at events, and again, all were very pleasant. I'm sensing a pattern here... Rude posters? Guilty. Quote Link to comment
+mikeslomka Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Does this include the forums?? That is one reason that I use my real name. I think that sometimes it is too easy for people to hide behind screen names. They don't feel like they are accountable, because the chances of them running into somebody that knows who they really are is slim. By the way, I'm certainly not accusing anybody, just stating my opinion. Quote Link to comment
+Snoogans Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Does this include the forums?? That is one reason that I use my real name. I think that sometimes it is too easy for people to hide behind screen names. They don't feel like they are accountable, because the chances of them running into somebody that knows who they really are is slim. By the way, I'm certainly not accusing anybody, just stating my opinion. I think you're right up to a point. However, if you look in the profiles of some of the most highly opinionated (often precieved rude depending which side of the fence you're on) forum people, often you will find someone who regularly attends geocaching events. In the worst of the worst, you'll find little or no event attendance. In other forum communities that DON'T have that social aspect, you are most certainly right. Quote Link to comment
+Team Tigger International Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Having never met any Rude cacher face to face . All I can say is that I have however read some rather rude log entries on cache pages ... most recently one that states because this person couldnt solve a cache puzzle ... the cache should be archived ! Other then that is has been rather pleasant whenever I have meet a fellow geocacher. I have read rather rude forum posts though ! Star Quote Link to comment
+mikeslomka Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Does this include the forums?? That is one reason that I use my real name. I think that sometimes it is too easy for people to hide behind screen names. They don't feel like they are accountable, because the chances of them running into somebody that knows who they really are is slim. By the way, I'm certainly not accusing anybody, just stating my opinion. I think you're right up to a point. However, if you look in the profiles of some of the most highly opinionated (often precieved rude depending which side of the fence you're on) forum people, often you will find someone who regularly attends geocaching events. In the worst of the worst, you'll find little or no event attendance. In other forum communities that DON'T have that social aspect, you are most certainly right. I have absolutely no problem with somebody that states their opinion. In fact, I believe that everybody is entitled to their opinion. That being said, I also believe that once somebody publicly states their opinion, they don't have the right to get upset when somebody publicly disagrees with them. I do think that MOST times, this can be done in a respectful manor. I also think that there is always going to be the "troll" aspect of internet message boards. Some people just have nothing better to do than to go somewhere and ruin somebody elses good time. Maybe that is why their is little or no event attendence for the worst offenders. Maybe they aren't really cachers, just people out to stir the pot. In one of the coonhunting communities that I belong to, everybody is required to use their real names. I find that it is much more friendly than a lot of message boards. That being said, there are still a couple of blowhards. Quote Link to comment
57chevy Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Does this include the forums?? That is one reason that I use my real name. I think that sometimes it is too easy for people to hide behind screen names. They don't feel like they are accountable, because the chances of them running into somebody that knows who they really are is slim. By the way, I'm certainly not accusing anybody, just stating my opinion. I think you're right up to a point. However, if you look in the profiles of some of the most highly opinionated (often precieved rude depending which side of the fence you're on) forum people, often you will find someone who regularly attends geocaching events. In the worst of the worst, you'll find little or no event attendance. In other forum communities that DON'T have that social aspect, you are most certainly right. In one of the coonhunting communities that I belong to, everybody is required to use their real names. I find that it is much more friendly than a lot of message boards. That being said, there are still a couple of blowhards. I must laugh here a bit... I work around coonhunters just about everyday, and believe me, there's more than a couple blowhards in those circles. They're a pretty decent bunch for the most part though. Quote Link to comment
+The Jester Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 That is one reason that I use my real name. I think that sometimes it is too easy for people to hide behind screen names. They don't feel like they are accountable, because the chances of them running into somebody that knows who they really are is slim. I guess it depends on the reputation you build locally. I've had a couple of encouters with other cachers that weren't rude, but rather funny. One, while at a cache some thirty miles up into the North Cascades I met a cacher, who after introducing myself, said "You're The Jester?!? I want to talk to you!" He had a couple of GSAK questions to ask, and had heard about me from someone across the state. Two, at a Halloween party - where I dressed my name - someone came up and asked "Are you the REAL Jester?" After replying in the affirmative, he said "I hate you, I love you, I hate you, I love you, I hate you, I love you!" Seems he was having a spot of trouble with a puzzle cache of mine... So I guess not everybody can "hide" behind a screen name... I agree with everyone, I can't recall a rude encounter with a cacher in the flesh - mildly over the net a couple of times, though. Quote Link to comment
+ReadyOrNot Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 In the worst of the worst, you'll find little or no event attendance. I've never attended an event. I've met many, many cachers though. In fact, I'm going on a cache trip tomorrow with a couple other guys that I met on FTF's. I don't think you need to necessarily attend events to be active in the geocaching community. I started my forum career very badly. 3 or 4 suspensions later and the threat of a complete forum & GC.com ban made me re-think my approach But I've gotten to know some of the moderators fairly well Quote Link to comment
+mudsneaker Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 it took awhile but the thread was doomed to attract the "quote" posts and jabs. I cant believe Im the first to break out the popcorn! Quote Link to comment
+Katydid & Miles Stone Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 The further one gets from civilization the more we tend to be civilized. Remote caches are the greatest. Quote Link to comment
Suscrofa Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 For my own education, what is a coonhunter ?? I know of hunters hunting ra"coon" but does it have an other meaning ? Thanks from a Boar hunter, a Deer hunter, a Fox hunter .... Quote Link to comment
57chevy Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 (edited) For my own education, what is a coonhunter ?? I know of hunters hunting ra"coon" but does it have an other meaning ? Thanks from a Boar hunter, a Deer hunter, a Fox hunter .... No other meaning, exactly that... hunting ra"coon" ! I just noticed you were from France, just to clarify... it is generally accepted to shorten the word to "coon" here in the states. We also call boar hunting here, "hog" hunting and "Pig"hunting, and we have a few other names for them I can't use on the family friendly forums. Edited January 27, 2007 by 57chevy Quote Link to comment
+mikeslomka Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 What he said. By the way 57chevy, you are right, a lot of coon hunters are blow-hards. I wanted to use another word, but this is a family friendly forum. To kind of get back to the original thread, my point was that many times, people will say things that they generally wouldn't because they feel safe and anonymous hiding behind their computer. Again, not an indictment of anybody, just a generalization. And I am fully aware that there are exceptions to every rule. Quote Link to comment
maaayyybe Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 For my own education, what is a coonhunter ?? I know of hunters hunting ra"coon" but does it have an other meaning ? Thanks from a Boar hunter, a Deer hunter, a Fox hunter .... Well in the deep south of the US this can be taken as a very derogatory term to African Americans. So I wouldn't suggest going around yelling that term. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 That is one reason that I use my real name. I think that sometimes it is too easy for people to hide behind screen names. They don't feel like they are accountable, because the chances of them running into somebody that knows who they really are is slim. That's exactly why I'm only rude, nasty, arrogant and condescending in the general forums. In the local forum I'm very nice. Quote Link to comment
+nekom Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 I haven't met all that many but so far all good people. Went out with a group last weekend and wound up meeting 2 other cachers in the field, at the same cache. Everyone was extremely friendly and it was a pleasure to meet them all. I think the very nature of geocaching kind of attracks friendly people. Quote Link to comment
maaayyybe Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 I recall a big family once in a Florida state park who was pretty much shoving everyone out of the way, including muggles, and yelling back and forth to each other over long distances just to find a few caches. Thought that was a little rude especially for the people who were at the park trying to enjoy the day. This was before I started caching myself but I knew exactly what they were doing. Quote Link to comment
+Snoogans Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 In the worst of the worst, you'll find little or no event attendance. I don't think you need to necessarily attend events to be active in the geocaching community. You only chose to quote one line of my post. I chose my words very carefully in that post and THAT was NOT implied. I started my forum career very badly. 3 or 4 suspensions later and the threat of a complete forum & GC.com ban made me re-think my approach But I've gotten to know some of the moderators fairly well Hmmmmm, in 4 years of pushing the envelope in my forum posts, I got my first real forum warning late last year. I got another maybe a month or two later and that's it so far. I've dusted it up with a couple of mods further back when the mods learning how to wield their awesome power and never did anything to warrant a suspension or outright bannination. One of the deciding factors for my decision to attend GW3 was because so MANY of this forum's personalities were going to be there. I met them ALL. Unlike many of my local cachin' family who hardly ever post here (with the exception of Mudfrog and a couple others) I can place a face with many of the posters here having attended events in 5 states and 2 GWs. It makes this forum more personal for me and in so doing checks my behavior. Quote Link to comment
+Snoogans Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 For my own education, what is a coonhunter ?? I know of hunters hunting ra"coon" but does it have an other meaning ? Thanks from a Boar hunter, a Deer hunter, a Fox hunter .... Well in the deep south of the US this can be taken as a very derogatory term to African Americans. So I wouldn't suggest going around yelling that term. What's that all about? I don't get why you even said that. I don't know how deep in the south you consider Texas to be, but everyone I know here understands that coon hunting is about hunting a furry little critter and not another human being with dark skin. Quote Link to comment
+Techcaching Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 I would say I would chalk up as a rude cacher. but in the favor of proctecting our caches. I am also a rock climber and avid wieght lifter I dont take to kindly to messing with other peoples stuff. In caching its just annoying but when i'm 80ft up on a face of some cliff and some punks come by and start screwing around with your ancor its a life threating situation. The point to my comment is that I love my fellow cachers and despise those that ruin and vandel other people's things. Quote Link to comment
maaayyybe Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 For my own education, what is a coonhunter ?? I know of hunters hunting ra"coon" but does it have an other meaning ? Thanks from a Boar hunter, a Deer hunter, a Fox hunter .... Well in the deep south of the US this can be taken as a very derogatory term to African Americans. So I wouldn't suggest going around yelling that term. What's that all about? I don't get why you even said that. I don't know how deep in the south you consider Texas to be, but everyone I know here understands that coon hunting is about hunting a furry little critter and not another human being with dark skin. I'm talking like in areas of Tennessee and Georgia and places like that. Not that I don't love those states. I think they are great states with great people. Spent some great vacation days there. But some of the people are still a little bit racist. So there can be tensions between the races in certain parts. Quote Link to comment
+VeryLost Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 The cachers in my area very rudely insist on holding events and informal gatherings at ungodly times, like, nine am on a Saturday, when decent people (i.e. me) are still sound asleep. Does that count? But I get even with them. I go out after midnight and grab FTFs on newly published caches Quote Link to comment
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