+Nanni&PapK57 Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 (edited) Hello Bob, like the idea of non trackable tender and trackable passenger car..adding more rolling stock later as a vintage set... eather way keep us down for #57 to match our 06 set..do you still have the list of people that purchased the other sets??will they have first chance to purchase the matching sets?/Thanks jeff Edited January 27, 2007 by Nanni&PapK57 Quote Link to comment
+ranger216 Posted January 27, 2007 Author Share Posted January 27, 2007 Hello Bob, like the idea of non trackable tender and trackable passenger car..adding more rolling stock later as a vintage set... eather way keep us down for #57 to match our 06 set..do you still have the list of people that purchased the other sets??will they have first chance to purchase the matching sets?/Thanks jeff I do still have all the records from the 06 set in anticipation of future releases.. from this point on.. they will only be numbered as requested.. ie if you have a numbered 06 set .. you are eligible to have your 07 numbered the same as your 06.. Hope to have final product art ready later this weekend.. thanks again Quote Link to comment
+OshnDoc Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 I am in for this. I have to find my previous number though. The foggy gold and silver both have 216 on them, I guess those are extra. Quote Link to comment
+ranger216 Posted January 27, 2007 Author Share Posted January 27, 2007 I am in for this. I have to find my previous number though. The foggy gold and silver both have 216 on them, I guess those are extra. If you dont have them... I have them on my master list and will forward them to you How is your personal coin going? Quote Link to comment
+chaosmanor Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 I do still have all the records from the 06 set in anticipation of future releases.. from this point on.. they will only be numbered as requested.. ie if you have a numbered 06 set .. you are eligible to have your 07 numbered the same as your 06.. Hope to have final product art ready later this weekend.. We're definitely interested in this continuity aspect of things. I'll have to dig through to see which set we actually kept; with the holidays, I let a lot of that sort of thing go by-the-boards, so I've got some catching-up to do. You should see the pile of unactivated geocoins I've got by my computer! I'll e-mail you after you get the final art work up. Looking forward to this Quote Link to comment
+OshnDoc Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 How is your personal coin going? Almost here, should ship from the mint on Wednesday. Found my number: 009 Quote Link to comment
+Shilo Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 If you dont have them... I have them on my master list and will forward them to you Myself and the Yimester swapped numbers so you might want to make that change to your database. I'm in for these whenever they become available Quote Link to comment
+ranger216 Posted January 28, 2007 Author Share Posted January 28, 2007 Which design do you prefer ? If I use the 1st design, it will be a 2 coin set.. 1st coin will be 2 1/2" and the passenger car 1.75" The 2nd design would be the engine 1.75" tender 1.5" and pass car 1.75" Please provide me some feedback...as I want to get this finalized in the next day or 2 Quote Link to comment
+AtlantaGal Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 (edited) I like the second one and that's mainly because the coins will fit in a binder. Edited January 28, 2007 by AtlantaGal Quote Link to comment
+slowdownracer Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 (edited) I like the second one and that's mainly because the coins will fit in a binder. I have to agree on that one. Edited January 28, 2007 by slowdownracer Quote Link to comment
+cachenut06 Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Ahh, i have to be the different one, i like the idea of the first one, because the coal tender is NOT detached, to keep it together, and not as many pieces. Quote Link to comment
+Bill & Tammy Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 True, it may make for a rather long geocoin but I like the idea of the locomotive and the tender connected on one coin. Quote Link to comment
+OshnDoc Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 (edited) Well: I don't mind the length that much but I am concerned about the roof length of the engine. It looks a bit too long in the first set. Is this proportional to a real engine? I like the size in the second design, as the first set seems to be out of proportions in the over all size of the engine + tender compared to the passenger car. The engine appears to be a bit too small for the passenger car. I vote for option 2 with three coins. Edited January 28, 2007 by OshnDoc Quote Link to comment
+GPX Navigators Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Like option 1 but agree about length of roof. That can probably be taken care of, right? Ulitmately, your coin, your choice. Quote Link to comment
YemonYime Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 The YittleYime just saw the design and votes for the second set. (Three coins) And he knows trains. I'd like to put in for a set with the number 21. Mix up last time, but Shilo and I swapped, so it's all good. Again, it's 21 (Twenty One) Thanks! Yime Quote Link to comment
+MommyFinder Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Hmmm, tough decision. But, I think I like option 2 better. As a few others stated, I think the proportions look right. Quote Link to comment
+ranger216 Posted January 29, 2007 Author Share Posted January 29, 2007 I really appreciate the input.. I was more on the #1 design myself.. but do see what you mean about being to scale.. well I will give it another day or 2 to get a true consensus.. thanks everyone Quote Link to comment
+ranger216 Posted January 29, 2007 Author Share Posted January 29, 2007 The YittleYime just saw the design and votes for the second set. (Three coins) And he knows trains. I'd like to put in for a set with the number 21. Mix up last time, but Shilo and I swapped, so it's all good. Again, it's 21 (Twenty One) Thanks! Yime I promise you will get the right number this time,, again.. thank you everyone Now I have to run.. to play Sid Meiers Railrioads.. I cant help it... I'm a train junkie Quote Link to comment
+Tank Hounds Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I like the first one. Quote Link to comment
+SeabeckTribe Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 My vote is for option #2. The thought for combining the locomotive and tender is a great idea, but the proportions of the cars look off. Personally.... If you go with option #2, the three car set. You might as well go all the way with a 4 car set that includes a vintage caboose. But that is only my opinion! You are making me a train lover! Lummieh Quote Link to comment
+ranger216 Posted January 29, 2007 Author Share Posted January 29, 2007 My vote is for option #2. The thought for combining the locomotive and tender is a great idea, but the proportions of the cars look off. Personally.... If you go with option #2, the three car set. You might as well go all the way with a 4 car set that includes a vintage caboose. But that is only my opinion! You are making me a train lover! Lummieh well I DOooo have a picture of a vintage caboose... now that you mention it... hmmm.. my attic is FULL of trains... now my geocoin collection... I see a pattern Quote Link to comment
+0R0B0RUS Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 My vote is for option #2. The thought for combining the locomotive and tender is a great idea, but the proportions of the cars look off. Personally.... If you go with option #2, the three car set. You might as well go all the way with a 4 car set that includes a vintage caboose. But that is only my opinion! You are making me a train lover! Lummieh well I DOooo have a picture of a vintage caboose... now that you mention it... hmmm.. my attic is FULL of trains... now my geocoin collection... I see a pattern Yes! Yes! I like this idea! Quote Link to comment
+MommyFinder Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 My vote is for option #2. The thought for combining the locomotive and tender is a great idea, but the proportions of the cars look off. Personally.... If you go with option #2, the three car set. You might as well go all the way with a 4 car set that includes a vintage caboose. But that is only my opinion! You are making me a train lover! Lummieh well I DOooo have a picture of a vintage caboose... now that you mention it... hmmm.. my attic is FULL of trains... now my geocoin collection... I see a pattern Yes! Yes! I like this idea! I agree. Now with the 3 cars, it almost looks incomplete without a caboose! Quote Link to comment
+cachenut06 Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 okay, heres my new and improved idea or vote....i like number one, but i dont like the overhang on the cab. If that was elimated or fixed, to be more proportional, that would be good, the 3 pieces of passenger car, engine and coal tender as one, and the caboose, that would be my ideal awesome set..but thats my opinion lol Quote Link to comment
+Let's Look Over Thayer Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 My preference would be for Option 2, but I'd be happy with either choice. Quote Link to comment
ATMouse Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Frick! I'm no help, either one would do for me. However, I would not find three coins vs two coins a factor that would deter me from buying. Quote Link to comment
+Rattlingcrew Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Count me in these are awesome and I love steam locos. I see serious Pay Pal damage headed my way. ...again... Glen Quote Link to comment
+ranger216 Posted January 30, 2007 Author Share Posted January 30, 2007 I see serious Pay Pal damage headed my way. ...again... Glen I know exactly where you are coming from... pay pay pay paypal...lol Quote Link to comment
+ranger216 Posted January 30, 2007 Author Share Posted January 30, 2007 Well: I don't mind the length that much but I am concerned about the roof length of the engine. It looks a bit too long in the first set. Is this proportional to a real engine? I like the size in the second design, as the first set seems to be out of proportions in the over all size of the engine + tender compared to the passenger car. The engine appears to be a bit too small for the passenger car. I vote for option 2 with three coins. Here is a corrected (to scale) steam engine/tender and pass car What u think? Quote Link to comment
+chamois-shimi & special K Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Have to say that from an aesthetic point of view, I prefer the combined engine/tender coin, especially with the adjustment made in the last post. The amount of overhang, as others have mentioned, was the only real drawback from the original design. Glad that you liked my "Age of Steam" moniker. -SK Quote Link to comment
danoshimano Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Here is a corrected (to scale) steam engine/tender and pass car What u think? I vote for that! (And if you added a caboose to those two, that would be great, too.) Quote Link to comment
+MommyFinder Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I'd like to change my vote to option 1 - updated version. I definitely prefer the combined engine and tender now that the roof is fixed, and the tender looks like the right size (like I would know the difference - all I know is it more closely matches the proportions of the Thomas trains )! I still think you should add the caboose for a 3-coin set, especially since there's a caboose silhouette on the back. Quote Link to comment
+cachenut06 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 updated version, definately will purchase that! thats a beautiful coin! Quote Link to comment
+OshnDoc Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Well: I don't mind the length that much but I am concerned about the roof length of the engine. It looks a bit too long in the first set. Is this proportional to a real engine? I like the size in the second design, as the first set seems to be out of proportions in the over all size of the engine + tender compared to the passenger car. The engine appears to be a bit too small for the passenger car. I vote for option 2 with three coins. Here is a corrected (to scale) steam engine/tender and pass car What u think? Even taking the risk as being too picky: here is a rendered version of the above image which looks in my eyes a little bit better. For me the Chimney in the fron tis the most prominent part and sticks out the highest (to get the smpke away from the rest of the engine and passenger cars, so why not make it visible in the outline of the coin? That way the outline of the pasenger car blends in better with the engine. What do you think? Quote Link to comment
+tokencollector Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Another suggestion that you may not want to hear at this point is to put wood in the tender. Though not an expert, I believe that the funnel style you have chosen is typically seen on wood burning engines - coal burning engines have a straight smoke stack. (I presume that the wood-burning style has something to do with catching burning embers.) btw. The engine-tender / passenger car combination is looking pretty good. I was contemplating passing on this one, but I think that I may want it now after all. Quote Link to comment
+ranger216 Posted January 30, 2007 Author Share Posted January 30, 2007 Another suggestion that you may not want to hear at this point is to put wood in the tender. Though not an expert, I believe that the funnel style you have chosen is typically seen on wood burning engines - coal burning engines have a straight smoke stack. (I presume that the wood-burning style has something to do with catching burning embers.) btw. The engine-tender / passenger car combination is looking pretty good. I was contemplating passing on this one, but I think that I may want it now after all. you know.. you are right with the wood.. but .. I am from the coal fields of north eastern Pa.. thus my infatuation with coal... but I can change it as you are quite correct in your observation... Quote Link to comment
+chaosmanor Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 (edited) Another suggestion that you may not want to hear at this point is to put wood in the tender. Though not an expert, I believe that the funnel style you have chosen is typically seen on wood burning engines - coal burning engines have a straight smoke stack. (I presume that the wood-burning style has something to do with catching burning embers.) This is correct; the General, upon which this design is based (vz. the third or fourth post of this thread, back on page #1), was a wood-burning engine, so the tender should have logs, stacked along the short axis of the tender; i.e. we should see the cross-section of the logs. There is a fair photo of The General on Wikipedia, for those who want to check this out. The overhang is very close to the actual overhang on The General, although now the tender is rather shorter. But lengthening the tender would make the whole thing much too long. So, the options are to shorten the engine a tad, or make this two coins, or just forget the problem entirely, because this is "based on", not an actual attempt to be a strict copy. Personally, I would opt to make the engine and tender two coins, for the sake of verisimilitude. But I also like the idea of making the engine and tender one coin. If there is a way to slightly shorten the engine, without you having to go through a whole lot of work, that might be the thing to do. But the thing, as it stands, is OK. I would prefer to have one coin for these two, and have the tender a little too short, than have this thing get too expensive to be bought And I see that while I was typing the above... don't it always seem to work that way? Edited January 30, 2007 by chaosmanor Quote Link to comment
+Dither Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I would be very interested in the trains!!! Please let me know when they are available or how I can get a few (2 or 3)!!!!!! Dither and Jessica21047 Quote Link to comment
+bickhart814 Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 I am interested in this one to add to my other set that I purchased from you. A red caboose would be a great additon to the set. Thanks for the professional looking coins (trains). Thanks Quote Link to comment
+MommyFinder Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 I DO like OshnDoc's suggestion of bringing the top edge of the engine/tender in line with the passenger car! Better outline of the chimney, lines up with the passenger car better, and less empty space above the engine/tender. Quote Link to comment
+ranger216 Posted January 31, 2007 Author Share Posted January 31, 2007 I DO like OshnDoc's suggestion of bringing the top edge of the engine/tender in line with the passenger car! Better outline of the chimney, lines up with the passenger car better, and less empty space above the engine/tender. corrected version should have online tomorrow thanks... also going to email all those who purchased the 1st set before the initial presale and reservation with the final artwork.. Quote Link to comment
+ranger216 Posted February 1, 2007 Author Share Posted February 1, 2007 Some finished art for you: Reservations will be available on Monday.. I have already sent emails to all owners of 06 trainset coins Quote Link to comment
+Let's Look Over Thayer Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 I have already sent emails to all owners of 06 trainset coins I have the '06 Trainset coins but have not received an e-mail... ...regardless, I definitely am interested in getting this set. Also, it's a small point but years ago I built a model of The General and all the wood was stacked lengthwise along the tender. Likewise, I have a Ten-Wheeler locomotive than runs on my garden railway and the wood on it's tender is also stacked lengthwise. Looking through old photos, I see both ways of stacking the wood used. And then there is this a photo of The General with the wood stacked kind of higgledy-piggledy... IMHO, interesting, but not worth worrying about changing the artwork for... Quote Link to comment
+slowdownracer Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 No e-mail received here either. Quote Link to comment
+OshnDoc Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 No email received either. Quote Link to comment
+Car54 Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 No e-mail here, either. Quote Link to comment
+The Dream Cachers Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Received email, ordered 1 gold and 1 bronze set! #024 Quote Link to comment
+AtlantaGal Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 I didn't get an email either and I have 2 2006 sets Quote Link to comment
+tokencollector Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Likewise - no e-mail here either. tokencollector Quote Link to comment
+Shilo Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 I got my e-mail and sent in my order Quote Link to comment
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