+CrazyL200 Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Been trying to run some PQs etc... Anyone else got the same problem this morning ? Quote Link to comment
+walkergeoff and wife Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 It just sits there with nothing loading at all. Having a Christmas break, perhaps? Quote Link to comment
+t.a.folk Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Christmas break must be over. Site is backup, well for the moment!! Quote Link to comment
+The Klever Boys Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Yep, *big* problems earlier this morning. Quote Link to comment
nobby.nobbs Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 be an insomniac with me working fine! Quote Link to comment
+Windsocker Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 here we go again think we need a server just for europe Quote Link to comment
+Chaotica_UK Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 Timeout expired. The timeout period elapsed prior to completion of the operation or the server is not responding. This happens when I tried to filter out finds. Quote Link to comment
+Norwegian Blue Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 Yup. Keeps happening to me too, adding to my frustration of using a really slow satellite uplinky thingy to go on-line from the middle of the sea. Quote Link to comment
+CrazyL200 Posted December 27, 2006 Author Share Posted December 27, 2006 And yet again this morning, this is doing my head in. Quote Link to comment
+Windsocker Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 its beyond a joke at this point and looks like nobody gives a toss Quote Link to comment
Edgemaster Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 They probably do, because it's persuading people to stop renewing their membership... The wap site is available for logging, as normal, the tiny little box may get annoying though for longer logs... Quote Link to comment
+Jaz666 Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Wap doesn't work with 7 digits yet. I think they should change the error messages from... "server too busy" to "geocaching is too popular" Quote Link to comment
Edgemaster Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 (edited) Wap doesn't work with 7 digits yet. I think they should change the error messages from... "server too busy" to "geocaching is too popular" Yep it does. It recognises they exist, however, recently published ones (GC10006 in the Czech Republic, for example) give 'You cannot log a disabled cache'. Older 7 digits such as GC10038 in London, are fine to log via wap. Oh, sorry, gave me the wrong cache to log for. How about "Geocachers are outrunning the hamsters, please allow them to catch up"? Edited December 30, 2006 by Edgemaster Quote Link to comment
+Windsocker Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 need more hamsters Quote Link to comment
sneaky meerkat Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 We tried to post a photo with a cache log and the server was busy and we could not add it. Is this quite usual then? Quote Link to comment
Deceangi Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 We tried to post a photo with a cache log and the server was busy and we could not add it. Is this quite usual then? Yes as photos have their own server, but not surprising considering that it's probably the busiest time of the year for the site. As virtually everywhere is celebrating the holiday Quote Link to comment
+macroderma Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 We tried to post a photo with a cache log and the server was busy and we could not add it. Is this quite usual then? It is at busy times - typically weekends, especially Sunday evenings, and holidays I have been logging caches this evening and the 'server busy' has been coming up occasionally - I expect it well get worse as the US cachers start logging in 3 or 4 hours Quote Link to comment
+Pharisee Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 (edited) I was up at 8 this morning and managed to create 4 new cache pages before I lost my bl**dy NTL broadband connection. If it ain't one thing, it's another!!! Got it back now, though! Edited January 1, 2007 by Pharisee Quote Link to comment
+Windsocker Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 I was up at 8 this morning and managed to create 4 new cache pages before I lost my bl**dy NTL broadband connection. If it ain't one thing, it's another!!! Got it back now, though! Know how you feel I was just submitting a few caches and bang now stuck in limbo again Quote Link to comment
+CrazyL200 Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 Is it me, or has there been a New Year resolution (maybe revolution) - not had a problem for a few days now Quote Link to comment
+tteggod trackers Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 not here had more probs than usual since the new year!! especially on weds morning.cost me some ftf's...thats my excuse anyway! Quote Link to comment
+CrazyL200 Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 And again, several times this morning : Timeout expired. The timeout period elapsed prior to completion of the operation or the server is not responding. Quote Link to comment
Deceangi Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Groundspeak are working with a outside consultant company on increasing the scalability and stability of the site. Once they have compiled their report and Groundspeak have implemented them, there will be a vast improvement. Sorry no time scale is available , but I can promise it will be before April the 1st...................................2010 Quote Link to comment
alistair_uk Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Sorry no time scale is available , but I can promise it will be before April the 1st...................................2010 ...and if there is not Deceangi will buy us all a pint. Quote Link to comment
+Windsocker Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Sorry no time scale is available , but I can promise it will be before April the 1st...................................2010 ...and if there is not Deceangi will buy us all a pint. I'll see you in the bar Quote Link to comment
+CrazyL200 Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 Sorry no time scale is available , but I can promise it will be before April the 1st...................................2010 ...and if there is not Deceangi will buy us all a pint. I'll see you in the bar Already there and waiting Quote Link to comment
ghost cat Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Isn't it "Update Wednesday"? Quote Link to comment
+stora Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 I've only one cache to log and the server's too busy. :-( Quote Link to comment
Edgemaster Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 At least it's now simple, rather than, I can't do that because I have no memory left, but I got this far, all the way from there. Much more concise, and since the server doesn't have to do all that problem tracing, it allows the site to return quicker than ever! Quote Link to comment
+Clyde. Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 (edited) And again ...... its taking 15mins or so for one cache page to load..... Edited to add: Ha as soon as I post this..... its all ok again, now thats service for ya Edited to add again : Spoke too soon...down again Edited January 31, 2007 by Clyde. Quote Link to comment
+Windsocker Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Here we go again Go spend some money on more servers Quote Link to comment
+CrazyL200 Posted February 4, 2007 Author Share Posted February 4, 2007 Well, that's me not caching tomorrow - can't get any PQs sorted Quote Link to comment
+HazelS Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 seems absolutely fine now..... I've just spent the last half hour logging with no problems at all! Quote Link to comment
Edgemaster Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 (edited) Here we go again Go spend some money on more servers Throwing more servers into it may make the problem worse in the long term. There may be scalability issues. Also, the Windows overheads are quite high... Oh, and I'll add, none of the Groundspeak people read here, it would be more useful go and vent your frustration in the main forums with all the others. Edited February 4, 2007 by Edgemaster Quote Link to comment
+HazelS Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Here we go again Go spend some money on more servers Throwing more servers into it may make the problem worse in the long term. There may be scalability issues. Also, the Windows overheads are quite high... Oh, and I'll add, none of the Groundspeak people read here, it would be more useful go and vent your frustration in the main forums with all the others. Well said Edgey - it seems to be the same old people complaining in here week after week... Do what I do - lighten up a ittle, shrug your shoulders and go do something else for a few hours!! After all - surely MOST people have a live other than caching? Quote Link to comment
+Windsocker Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Here we go again Go spend some money on more servers Throwing more servers into it may make the problem worse in the long term. There may be scalability issues. Also, the Windows overheads are quite high... Oh, and I'll add, none of the Groundspeak people read here, it would be more useful go and vent your frustration in the main forums with all the others. Well said Edgey - it seems to be the same old people complaining in here week after week... Do what I do - lighten up a ittle, shrug your shoulders and go do something else for a few hours!! After all - surely MOST people have a live other than caching? Life What Life I Like to Moan Quote Link to comment
+HazelS Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Actually - you're right - I have no life either... it's ALL about the caching! Quote Link to comment
+OldNickCov Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 (edited) Actually - you're right - I have no life either... it's ALL about the caching! I reckon it cost me a FtF too - I met the cacher who did get it late at night in a field as he left the cache, and he'd a) had no problem with the site, and b ) beaten me too it by less than the time I'd spent trying to reload and reload. Oh well - it's only a game. Edited February 5, 2007 by OldNickCov Quote Link to comment
+ZoomLens Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 It's gone again.... does anyone know why this happens so often??? Quote Link to comment
+stora Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Isn't there a server database backup or something run on a Wednesday ? Quote Link to comment
+gingerbreadmen Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Not exactly the same topic, but.... why on some days do I get a reply to a pocket query within minutes but at other times I can be waiting until the following day? I don't think the problem is at my end as I usually try with two different addresses, surprise surprise my AOL generally takes longer than my Googlemail one, but still (today, for example) there appears to be no response whatsoever). Any ideas? Quote Link to comment
+CrazyL200 Posted March 25, 2007 Author Share Posted March 25, 2007 Seriously slow tonight. Trying to log 10 cache visits today - 7 of my own for maintenance and 3 finds Taking longer to do the logs than it did to visit the caches. Quote Link to comment
+HazelS Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 Yes, butit's Sunday Night Nick... you know what it's like on a Sunday Night!!! I never log on a Sunday night now.. I leave it til Monday! Quote Link to comment
+CrazyL200 Posted March 25, 2007 Author Share Posted March 25, 2007 Hmmm......... Quote Link to comment
+Rubarbb Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Last night was really slow, was trying to post a pic of CrazyL200 TB and took ages! Quote Link to comment
+Happy Humphrey Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 As Edgemaster mentioned, there's not much point in moaning here. Jeremy has given us the reason for the problem, and it's likely to be quite a while before things improve very much. I guess that those that are interested will already have seen this, but look here for the official thread. HH Quote Link to comment
+wizard1974uk Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 New thread here: http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=159328 Quote Link to comment
Edgemaster Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 (edited) An even more recent post covering their current solution in more detail. Edit: What wizzie said. Edited March 26, 2007 by Edgemaster Quote Link to comment
Edgemaster Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Good post here from renegade knight, in the topic that HH linked to: One of the worst problems a company can have is growth from success. It’s easy to grow slowly. It’s hard to grow fast. The problem is almost always money. The specific issue really doesn’t matter unless there is no solution. The problem is money because when you hit a wall with your company the next step means a major investment in equipment and people. The investment can kill a firm. Take SD Cards. They are cheap. 24 bucks and you can store more music than you can listen to in a week. The factory to make a single SD card costs billions. If after building that factory you don’t sell enough SD Cards to cover costs…you go bankrupt. If you do nothing you lose customers to the company that does make the factory and having a newer factory they can sell them cheaper and you go bankrupt. There are more options but they all pretty much suck. It’s the problem most companies dream of having. Too much success. If the formula holds true. GC.com (and any other listing site) will grow until they hit the maximum amount of traffic they can handle. Then they start having problems delivering services to customers. The fix, migrate to the next level of equipment, plus the staff or contract to take care of it. But you have to make an investment that is far and away more than originally anticipated back when they had no idea where this activity would take them. They will have to look, look at the viability of non paying customers. If they don’t have enough premium members to pay for the equipment and the cost of running it they will have to change something. Increase prices and you can lose paying customers. If everyone pays…he breaks a promise (one that I never saw as realistic because of this problem) and loses a lot of customers. If he holds back on the required improvements until premium members can cover costs, he loses customers due to ongoing performance issues. I have no doubt there is equipment and people who can tackle the job. It’s a question of how to pay for it. There are options. Some will kill geoacaching.com, some may merely maim it. Others may take this company to the next level where it thrives but that may have a price that in the end spells out the doom of geocaching.com or a loss of at least some managerial control of the present PTB. Whether or not Geocaching.com has reached this point, I can only speculate. The signs from my end as a user seem to indicate that it has. Long Story short. If I’m right the solution won’t be quick, any other listing site would have the same problem, there is potential for failure, and success may require changes in the way this site does business that can make or break this site. Long story short, it’s not an easy fix and don’t expect quick turn around, but I’ll bet TPTB are working like never before to get it solved. (It's also 100% Speculation on my part). Quote Link to comment
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