+nfa Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 (edited) Ben and I were down south the other day, caching in the Long Lake/Newcomb area...not our best day...1 for 3...but it was a fun day anyway. While out in the Tahawus area, before taking a walk out into the high peaks area, we explored the ghost town left by the end of the mining operation for a while. Most of the old buildings are pretty far gone, grown back into the forest to some extent. It was really cool, and there's one more we want to visit when the weather gets warmer...it's across the river, but looks amazingly intact. [urlWhile in the woods looking at one of the more remote "haunted houses", I stepped on something under the leaves...it turned out to be the lid to an underground tank still holding some liquid...it tastes more like rainwater and dirt than sewage To be clear about the location...this tank opening is about 150 yards back from the trail, and 30-40 yards from the nearest ghost-house... topozone map of the approximate location of the hidden tank I had 2 thoughts at almost the same instant: 1) I should report it to somebody to avoid somebody falling in and/or getting trapped... 2) I should replace the lid after hiding a cache inside the tank... I'm leaning more towards option #1, but would love your input... Jamie - NFA Edited November 15, 2006 by NFA Quote
4wheelin_fool Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 ...it tastes more like rainwater and dirt than sewage.... tastes? Quote
+Kryten Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 Run away, looks like banjo country to me Quote
+BlueDeuce Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 1) But is anybody really going to go fix it? Quote
+ThePropers Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 Looks like my kindof place. How big is the tank? Can you get in/out of it safely (is there a ladder or something)? I'd be tempted to tie the cache onto a rope so it can be retrieved without entering the tank. Then of course replace the lid to prevent people from falling in. In order to retrieve the cache, they'd have to find the lid, remove the lid, and pull the cache up. Quote
+wimseyguy Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 Hide the cache in the hole with a rope like propers suggests. Replace the lid, and cover it with leaves, and then shift that log onto it for more camo effect. Quote
+Bad_CRC Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 ...it tastes more like rainwater and dirt than sewage.... tastes? who tastes unknown liquid to see if it's sewage? that's messed up dude. Quote
+sbell111 Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 Remove the lid and cover the opening with small twigs and leaves. Quote
nauticalwheeler Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 Tanks are VERY DANGEROUS!!!! Unless you have the equipment to determine if there IS oxygen and NO toxic gas DO NOT GO INTO THEM! I work in Ship repair and many people die in tanks because they do not take the time to certify them. There is a reason Miners lowered Canaries into the shafts before they went in. Just my input..... Quote
+Bill & Tammy Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 Remove the lid and cover the opening with small twigs and leaves. ... and while you are at it why not drain it and put some punji sticks in the bottom.... jeeeesh. as the wise man said above, stay clear of that sucker. Quote
+Cpt.Blackbeard Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 First I'd tie a weight on a rope and see how deep it is, then replace the lid then to keep not only people but animals from falling in. Hide a cahe there if you think it is safe, if not don't. It's your call, we do not have first hand knowledge of the site. Quote
+jasond Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 Drop a cache to the bottom. However the seeker wants to get it out and replace it is fair game. Quote
+Jhwk Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 tastes like chicken life comes to those who dare. Go for it (2) Quote
+nfa Posted November 15, 2006 Author Posted November 15, 2006 let me respond in order: I didn't really taste it... nobody lives there...my son thought it was haunted...maybe it is... I would probably spend some time phone-tagging my way around the DEC trying to find someone to help me, and then it owuld not be fixed because it is not a priority... I like the rope on a string idea... I didn't taste it... I like the idea of hiding a cache in the tank via a rope hung down into the glop, and then covering it with leaf litter... Hopefully nobody will be going in...this tank has been in the woods since the beginning of time, and I saw no bones littering the bottom, so I may have been the first person to notice it in a long time...with the lid on, it's invisible... Jamie - NFA Quote
+emurock Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 I like the idea. An old ghost town sounds like my kind of place. Quote
+sbell111 Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 The addition of punji stick is a good idea. Perhaps a few caltrops dropped in would make a workable trou de loup. (I can't believe he tasted it. ) Quote
+nfa Posted November 15, 2006 Author Posted November 15, 2006 it tasted pretty much the same at the bottom of the pit of doom as at the top, although it was noticeably colder 25 feet down... DOH!!! {{{must stick to story...did not taste bad water}}} Jamie - NFA Quote
Clan Riffster Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 Surely you could find some expendable teenagers to toss down the hole. That's gotta be cheaper, (and more moral), than a canary. Quote
+TrailGators Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 it tasted pretty much the same at the bottom of the pit of doom as at the top, although it was noticeably colder 25 feet down... DOH!!! {{{must stick to story...did not taste bad water}}} Jamie - NFA Looks like a very cool area for a cache! I like the cache on a rope idea! Quote
+Snoogans Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 (edited) Run away, looks like banjo country to me It should have a disclaimer that reads something like: READ THIS CACHE PAGE CAREFULLY IF'N YA DON'T WANNA SQUEAL LIKE A PIG! Edited November 15, 2006 by Snoogans Quote
+TrailGators Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 Run away, looks like banjo country to me It should have a disclaimer that reads something like: READ THIS CACHE PAGE CAREFULLY IF'N YA DON'T WANNA SQUEAL LIKE A PIG! "Deliverance" would be a great name for the cache! Quote
+Renegade Knight Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 Ignoring anything else, I'd say you found a cistern. But you never know. Sounds like a good area for a cache. Quote
+DresselDragons Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 One fact remains...you don't know what was stored in there. Maybe it was something harmless, maybe it was not. You could pull a sample and have it analyzed, but that would cost $$. I would feel uncomfortable hiding anything in there unless I knew for sure that it was safe. Quote
+nfa Posted November 15, 2006 Author Posted November 15, 2006 Is it private property? The state purchased the property a number of years ago, and it is now a part of the state forest preserve... Jamie - NFA Quote
+emurock Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 Surely you could find some expendable teenagers to toss down the hole. That's gotta be cheaper, (and more moral), than a canary. I am a teenager I could go down the hole. Quote
+nybergm Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 NFA, I also have explored those old buildings being a 46er and all I been up there quite a bit. I would say a tank that size up on the hill there is VERY wierd. Its not like they needed a water source. Maybe chemical storage? They did use a lot of chemicals there when mining. I do have to say there are no other tanks located like that one anywhere around those buildings. FYI the town existed in the late 1800-early 1900s as a mining/logging area for metals like iron and titanium. Some of the titanium was used for paints on battleships. Once WWII was over there was no need for the mining there. some strip mining still goes on there but it is very very small. Quote
+sbell111 Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 One fact remains...you don't know what was stored in there. Maybe it was something harmless, maybe it was not. You could pull a sample and have it analyzed, but that would cost $$. I would feel uncomfortable hiding anything in there unless I knew for sure that it was safe. Weren't you reading? He said it tasted OK. Quote
+sbell111 Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 I am a teenager I could go down the hole. I thought this was a write-your-own-joke thread in off-topic for a second. Quote
+DresselDragons Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 Weren't you reading? He said it tasted OK. But he glows in the dark now Just kidding! Quote
nonaeroterraqueous Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 But...I still want to know, how big is it? Someone asked and it was never answered. I can't tell from the picture. That could ba a little stick or a fallen tree laying on it. Can a person fit in it? How deep is it? How can we possibly guess what it was for if we don't know the size? Quote
+Isonzo Karst Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 I think you should do an off-set multi: if the contents of this tank tastes slightly "tangy" insert 4 into the formula DD.MM.A?A, if they taste salty, insert 3 into the formula, if they taste like (uh) s**t, insert 6............. Quote
+BlueDeuce Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 NFA, I also have explored those old buildings being a 46er and all I been up there quite a bit. I would say a tank that size up on the hill there is VERY wierd. Its not like they needed a water source. Maybe chemical storage? They did use a lot of chemicals there when mining. I do have to say there are no other tanks located like that one anywhere around those buildings. FYI the town existed in the late 1800-early 1900s as a mining/logging area for metals like iron and titanium. Some of the titanium was used for paints on battleships. Once WWII was over there was no need for the mining there. some strip mining still goes on there but it is very very small. Yeah, all you need is some cacher using his lighter to see better into the tank. Quote
+Jhwk Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 Hello... mining camp? Remote location? its the still storage container. Quote
+The GeoGadgets Team Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 Take door number 2. I'm close enough to you... I'd hunt it... and make sure no one had on anything that could spark, no lighters, etc. Of course, I will make sure to leave a pocket knife, some food and waterproof matches as trade items. Quote
+JRMoney Posted November 18, 2006 Posted November 18, 2006 Run away, looks like banjo country to me It should have a disclaimer that reads something like: READ THIS CACHE PAGE CAREFULLY IF'N YA DON'T WANNA SQUEAL LIKE A PIG! Please don't post pictures of me and my brother, or my pa playin' the banjo. Quote
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