+TeamTettamanti Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Most of the caches that we have been to have been micros that don't even have room for a "writin' stick". We used our own ink pens, pencils, and rollerball pens. This weekend it rained here (which in Las Vegas is rare). Now I'm thinking that I probably shouldn't have used the rollerball pen because the ink would run in the caches that weren't "watertight". Question: What should one use to sign the logs? Quote Link to comment
+conradv Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Most of the caches that we have been to have been micros that don't even have room for a "writin' stick". We used our own ink pens, pencils, and rollerball pens. This weekend it rained here (which in Las Vegas is rare). Now I'm thinking that I probably shouldn't have used the rollerball pen because the ink would run in the caches that weren't "watertight". Question: What should one use to sign the logs? #2 pencil. Quote Link to comment
+El Diablo Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 You did ok. Caches should be water proof. El Diablo Quote Link to comment
+NorthWes Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Beyond the fact that El Diablo's right about caches being watertight... a recent Discovery Channel program highlighted the durability of the image left by a typical #2 pencil - more enduring than ink. Now, where's that sharpener??? I carry a 'Stabilo' brand pencil/crayon hybrid used in the graphics art industries - in red & in blue - writes on anything. And, for those who encounter the lovely 'rite in rain' paper logbooks - a pencil is best on that paper! Quote Link to comment
+Blaidd-Drwg Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 I agree with El Diablo. Caches should be watertight. Anyway, on almost every episode I've seen of CSI it's raining in Vegas. Quote Link to comment
+Prime Suspect Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 I've yet to find a cache log that my Fisher Space Pen wouldn't write on, include on that had been submerged in water for the last 2 days. I've got the Bullet pen with the PDA stylus tip, but this brand new one looks pretty sweet. Quote Link to comment
+Bud Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Ditto all of the above posts, but this does pose another question: If you place a micro, but don't care enough to put a writing implement in, should it be placed at all? With the exception of the magnetic pico-caches, pretty much anything can fit a cut-off pencil. Quote Link to comment
+nfa Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 (edited) I've signed cache logs with mud and blood before, but prefer to use a pen that I generally remember to bring along...I stock my caches with tiny pencils that have 15 "points" built into them that can be pushed to the next sharp point when the one in use is dull...I like pencils because winters in my area can get down to 30 degrees below zero, and most pens don't work at that temp... Jamie - NFA Edit to add...I usually bring fresh log materials along with me, in case the current log is full or soaked... Edited October 11, 2006 by NFA Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 These work and don't run. Sharpies. Space Pens Unibal Power Tank's Pencils. Pencils don't write well on wet paper. Sharpies are ok on damp paper, not so good writing on wet paper. Space pens I've never messed with. Power Tanks work ok on damp paper but not wet paper. Once these have been used to sign the log though, the ink doesn't run. Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 ... If you place a micro, but don't ...put a writing implement in, should it be placed at all? ... I removed the "don't care enough". I'd rather have swag than a stub of a pencil that makes my already bad handwriting worse. Bring your writing stick is fair enough for a cacher to request. They run the risk of someone using a gel pen (writes great on soaking wet paper...it just runs...) and then the log being un-readable. Quote Link to comment
+Bad_CRC Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 if the cache is too small for a pencil, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect them to leave one nearby. never seen it, but I'd think it would be nice. I don't carry a bag with me, and when wearing tshirts, the only option for a pen is in jeans pockets, and that tends to cause them to break, which is bad. Quote Link to comment
+Jhwk Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 typical option: Pen Pencil Atypical: Crayon (used yesterday - didn't have a pen or pencil) Burned stick Twig and dandelion leaf (had to do on a cache in K.C. - before I thought of a burnt stick) blood - but then there is a whole 'nuther issue... How about a stamp? Or a sticker with your handle on it? Quote Link to comment
+markp99 Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 I only use a fine point sharpie. Pencils and some pens just refuse to work for me on those wet & stinky logs. The sharpie always writes and is permanent. (I had a very bad habbit of forgetting to place the writin' stick back into the cache, only to realize I was still holding it while walking out of the woods. D'oh, back to the cache to put the pen back. Using my own pen, I never make this mistake anymore. ) Quote Link to comment
+LDove Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 We use our new self-inking pen with our logo on it. If the log is big enough, we printed out a pageful (about 60-100 pp) of our own designed labels using a picture and our cache names. These are printed on a full size one piece label sheet. Then we cut them apart and put them in a film can in our fanny pack - works great! Peel 'em and stick 'em. Quote Link to comment
+Wayfinders Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 I always carry and use a Fisher Space Pen. The log can be wet, soaked, covered with grease or on fire and that puppy will write. And there's always the occasional time you find yourself in a space vacuum... Quote Link to comment
+Clothahump Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Or you can use Word or Publisher and print up a batch of "business cards" with your name on them. Drop one of those in the cache if you don't have a writing stick. Or even if you do. Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 I use a rite-in-the-rain pen - works great on wet and damp logs. Quote Link to comment
+LDove Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 I use a rite-in-the-rain pen - works great on wet and damp logs. Where do you get those? Quote Link to comment
+QuesterMark Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 I've yet to find a cache log that my Fisher Space Pen wouldn't write on, include on that had been submerged in water for the last 2 days. I've got the Bullet pen with the PDA stylus tip, but this brand new one looks pretty sweet. I digress, but it must be said. I saw a comedian talking about the "American Way" of thinking. He used the Fisher Space Pen as an example. When the US needed something to write in space, they spent a million dollars and developed the Space Pen. The Russians used a pencil. Quote Link to comment
+emurock Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Pen's lots of pen's Quote Link to comment
+hikergps Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 (edited) When the US needed something to write in space, they spent a million dollars and developed the Space Pen. The Russians used a pencil. The reason NASA didn't want pencils is graphite dust floating in the air fouling the equipment or getting in the eyes of the crew. edit to add: The Space Pen wasn't developed by NASA, it was developed by private industry and private funding, and tested and approved by NASA for use in space. Edited October 12, 2006 by hikergps Quote Link to comment
+hikergps Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 I use a rite-in-the-rain pen - works great on wet and damp logs. Where do you get those? Lots of places. Try Google. Quote Link to comment
+JaySTE Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Some uses the same avatar as me! I had it first! JaySTE Quote Link to comment
+Prime Suspect Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 I've yet to find a cache log that my Fisher Space Pen wouldn't write on, include on that had been submerged in water for the last 2 days. I've got the Bullet pen with the PDA stylus tip, but this brand new one looks pretty sweet. I digress, but it must be said. I saw a comedian talking about the "American Way" of thinking. He used the Fisher Space Pen as an example. When the US needed something to write in space, they spent a million dollars and developed the Space Pen. The Russians used a pencil. Yeah, I wouldn't suggest getting your facts from comics or urban myths, though. NASA didn't develop the pens, or spend any money to do so. They never paid over $4.00 for one. This article makes interesting reading. The Million Dollar Space Pen Myth is just that, a myth. The pens never cost a lot of money and were not developed by wasteful bureaucrats or overactive NASA engineers. The real story of the Space Pen is less interesting than the myth, but in many ways more inspiring. It is not a story of NASA bureaucrats versus simplistic Russians, but a story of a clever capitalist who built a superior product and conducted some innovative marketing. That story, however, is a little harder to sell to a public that believes what it wants to believe. Quote Link to comment
+eagletrek Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 I use a plain old Parker pen with Space Pen cartridge. It's a whole lot cheaper with the same results. The Space Pen will write on anything to include wet logs. Quote Link to comment
+TeamTettamanti Posted October 14, 2006 Author Share Posted October 14, 2006 Some uses the same avatar as me! I had it first! JaySTE This was my next choice... but I'm keeping the one I (we) have Quote Link to comment
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