+pghlooking Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 (edited) While out one day last week, we came across a small turtle. When I say small, it is barely bigger than a quarter. We are unsure what kind it is. We have ruled out the 2 most known in the area, being a Eastern Box Turtle and the Snapping Turtle. Some have suggested either a Map Turtle or Woods Turtle. Anybody know for sure? Edited October 1, 2006 by pghlooking Link to comment
+briansnat Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 It might be a juvenile Eastern Bog Turtle, which by the way are an endangered and protected species. If it is a bog turtle, you could be fined if caught with it. Link to comment
+pghlooking Posted October 1, 2006 Author Share Posted October 1, 2006 The photos of the Bog Turtle didn't match. We looked at that but since the turtle has no colors on the head, and the Bog Turtle has distinct markings on either side of the head we ruled it out. Also the shell is flater than it appears in the photos. It is not nearly as pronounced as a box turtle. It is much more flattened like a turle found in ponds would be. Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Wife is a biology teacher and thinks it may be a baby spotted box turtle - location is right for that. This website has a photo of a similar one http://www.naturealmanac.com/natural_event...turtle_box.html Wife says if no one wants it - she would gladly take it off their hands to have in her classroom Link to comment
+Vinny & Sue Team Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 I vote for baby spotted box turtle, although it is rather late in the year to encounter a baby turtle. Please be advised that box turtles are protected species in many states. Link to comment
+pghlooking Posted October 1, 2006 Author Share Posted October 1, 2006 After seeing the link Starbrand posted, it is a box turtle. It doesn't have the colors yet, and the shell wasn't hinged. We didn't know that it was that different from a young one to full grown. Seeing where it was it was only standing the chance of becoming flat, we will try to get it to a better place for it to live. Link to comment
+TMOCM Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Definitely a baby Eastern box turtle see the 5th and 6th row photos in the following link. http://www.chelonia.org/terrapenegallery.htm Link to comment
+Trucker Lee Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Seeing where it was it was only standing the chance of becoming flat, we will try to get it to a better place for it to live. Q--- Why did the turtle cross the road? A-- To show the chicken it could be done! Link to comment
+Kealia Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 That would be "Signal's Cousin". I suggest putting him back ASAP. Link to comment
+D@nim@l Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 That would be "Signal's Cousin". I suggest putting him back ASAP. With his distinctive markings, I think Trigo the Turtle would be a nice name. We need a mascot. I even have an ammo can in which he can live. Link to comment
+Turtlebug Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Well, for me, I'd name him Turtlebug....but then again, that's just me Link to comment
+Turtlebug Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Well, for me, I'd name him Turtlebug....but then again, that's just me Link to comment
+El Diablo Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 That would be "Signal's Cousin". I suggest putting him back ASAP. First off...Hi kealia!! Haven't seen you in a while. Back on topic...the only way he can be Signal's cousins is to drive a nail in his head. I also agree with kealia...put him back in the area you found him. El Diablo Link to comment
+Airmapper Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 I used to keep those as pets as a kid. I'm keep them a week or two then release them back to the wild. They are quite tame when that young. I fed them earthworms, crickets, lettuce, and anything like that you can grub out from under rocks. Like others have said, I agree it's a Box turtle. Link to comment
+edscott Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 It is important for him to be released in exactly the same spot that you took him from. Reptiles do not relocate very well and releasing him in an unfamiliar area will probably cause his death. Link to comment
57chevy Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 I found this guy last fall while caching and kept him long enough to snap a couple pics. Myrtle is always a good name for turtles. Link to comment
+2qwerqE Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Saw this guy while caching yesterday. We left him where he was. About the size of a half a cantalope. Ain't he cute? Link to comment
+LadeBear68 Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 I found this guy last fall while caching and kept him long enough to snap a couple pics. Myrtle is always a good name for turtles. That is one peeved turtle. Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Looks like a 'Sluggo', to me. Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 It is important for him to be released in exactly the same spot that you took him from. Reptiles do not relocate very well and releasing him in an unfamiliar area will probably cause his death. For most of the box turtles we have seen that would be the middle of the highway. So --- no. BTW - after checking a few books my wife is more conviced then ever that the OPs turtle is a Spotted Box Turtle and not an Eastern Box Turtle. Link to comment
+worldtraveler Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 While out one day last week, we came across a small turtle... <snipped boring details>... Anybody know for sure?Well, as an expert part time turtleologist, I can tell you that most turtles/tortoises in their immature stage are difficult to positively identify by visual means alone. You could wait until the little feller matures, but since some species have lifespans exceeding 100 years, there's a fair chance you could croak before you get your answer. That's why I've developed an alternate method which I expect to have published soon in Nature or perhaps even Field and Stream. In laymen's terms, it goes something like this: It's a known scientific fact that the various species of turtles and tortoises can be alternately classified according to their diet, i.e., herbivore, carnivore, omnivore, and admixtures thereof. Years of field research has shown me that each species' distinctive diet causes it to have a corresponding distinctive flavor when properly boiled and lightly seasoned. For the sake of brevity, I won't include the entire list here, but suffice to say that eastern box turtles taste much like chicken, common snapping turtles taste like cat, and bog turtles taste more like striped skunk. So my recommendation would be to boil your specimen up, chow down, and let us know the results. Link to comment
+johninvandergrift Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 While out one day last week, we came across a small turtle... <snipped boring details>... Anybody know for sure?Well, as an expert part time turtleologist, I can tell you that most turtles/tortoises in their immature stage are difficult to positively identify by visual means alone. You could wait until the little feller matures, but since some species have lifespans exceeding 100 years, there's a fair chance you could croak before you get your answer. That's why I've developed an alternate method which I expect to have published soon in Nature or perhaps even Field and Stream. In laymen's terms, it goes something like this: It's a known scientific fact that the various species of turtles and tortoises can be alternately classified according to their diet, i.e., herbivore, carnivore, omnivore, and admixtures thereof. Years of field research has shown me that each species' distinctive diet causes it to have a corresponding distinctive flavor when properly boiled and lightly seasoned. For the sake of brevity, I won't include the entire list here, but suffice to say that eastern box turtles taste much like chicken, common snapping turtles taste like cat, and bog turtles taste more like striped skunk. So my recommendation would be to boil your specimen up, chow down, and let us know the results. Quite surprised by this posting. Really, really poor taste. Deep frying really brings out the flavor. I like hot sauce with mine. Link to comment
+johninvandergrift Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Seriously, we have two pet box turtles. Talk about low maintenance. We keep them outside year round in a pen. (Pennsylvania) They will eat just about anything. One loves hotdogs and the others goes crazy over watermellon. They'll both eat right out of our fingers. In the winter months, they dig in and hybernate. It's always a sure sign of spring to see them poking their heads above ground early in the new year. They were both rescued from the highway near our home. Link to comment
+worldtraveler Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Okay... Dinner time should be over in Finleyville, PA by now. Just what kind of turtle was it, anyway? Link to comment
+welch Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Okay... Dinner time should be over in Finleyville, PA by now. Just what kind of turtle was it, anyway? Maybe it was a 'soup' turtle? Link to comment
+worldtraveler Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 (edited) Okay... Dinner time should be over in Finleyville, PA by now. Just what kind of turtle was it, anyway? Maybe it was a 'soup' turtle? Hey, we're talkin' serious science here. Didn't you read my earlier post? Any self-respecting turtleologist should know soup turtles have bright, shiny, tin-colored shells with "Campbell's" written in red on them. It was obvious from the pictures posted by the OP, that this was not your garden variety soup turtle. Edited October 3, 2006 by worldtraveler Link to comment
+Kealia Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Aloha El Diablo. And everybody knows that the best turtles are made with chocolate, nuts and carmel. Link to comment
+carolinadreamer Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 I think you need to engrave a tracking number onto the shell and turn him into a turtle bug. Link to comment
+pghlooking Posted October 3, 2006 Author Share Posted October 3, 2006 It was released 2 days ago. I wasn't asking what kind it was to keep, just to know where to release it. Didn't want a water turtle in the woods and vice versa. Never wanted to keep him so relax some of ya. Releasing him exactly where he was found isn't an option since there is about a 3 X 10 grass area surrounded by about 20 acres of ashphalt and tractor trailers. I think he would much rather be reloacated than to be released back there. Thanks for the identification, which is all I really wanted, so feel free to close this thread since we aren't allowed anymore. Link to comment
+welch Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Okay... Dinner time should be over in Finleyville, PA by now. Just what kind of turtle was it, anyway? Maybe it was a 'soup' turtle? Hey, we're talkin' serious science here. Didn't you read my earlier post? Any self-respecting turtleologist should know soup turtles have bright, shiny, tin-colored shells with "Campbell's" written in red on them. It was obvious from the pictures posted by the OP, that this was not your garden variety soup turtle. Ok, I'll admit I am only an amateur at this turtleologist stuff Link to comment
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