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Okay, I've only brought this up because I stumbled across a log and profile that made me fall out of my chair. There is a cacher with the name of "nudecacher". Now I thought that this was perhaps just something that they thought was humorous, but apparently not. The images attributed to this individual are nothing less then disturbing.

 

Now I'm not a prude ( :laughing: really?) I'm all for the beauty of the human body :P, but there is a time and a place for it. And images on the geocaching website are in my opinion (there is that statement everyone loves) just wrong. If you take a look at the individuals posts, you'll understand.

 

I will, of course, show my sexist side and say that if some really attractive young lady wants to post images like that, just let me know where they are. :D Of course this may be offensive to others (why I can't imagine but there are those...).

 

Seriously, what should be done about this, if anything. At the very least this guy (yes guy, and not the sort that I think anyone want to see with nothing on and an ammo box cache covering over his... :D ) shouldn't post these images. A little self respect is apparently not on the top of his list of things to worry about.

 

Should cache owners be responsible for this? Should geocache give them a warning and keep them from posting if they do not cease? Am I overreacting?

 

Thoughts...

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OzGuff

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I believe obscenity is in the eye of the beholder. If you are troubled by the images he posts, then I would recommend not clicking any link posted by nudecacher. I am pretty sure that the photos nudecacher posts are generally "tasteful" (also in the eye of the beholder) and not terribly graphic. If my kids (12yo female and 9yo male) saw any of his photos I am pretty sure they would laugh -- sorry nudecacher -- and then ask me to get off the computer so they can play games (9yo male) or order stuff from Gap.com (12yo female).

 

If you are really offended by the images then you need to send an email to Geocaching.com. (But I am sure they are already aware of nudecacher.)

 

I cache my way (clothed) and nudecacher caches his way (unclothed). We both enjoy this awesome activity!!

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Vinny & Sue Team

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Okay, I've only brought this up because I stumbled across a log and profile that made me fall out of my chair. There is a cacher with the name of "nudecacher". Now I thought that this was perhaps just something that they thought was humorous, but apparently not. The images attributed to this individual are nothing less then disturbing.

 

Now I'm not a prude ( :laughing: really?) I'm all for the beauty of the human body :D, but there is a time and a place for it. And images on the geocaching website are in my opinion (there is that statement everyone loves) just wrong. If you take a look at the individuals posts, you'll understand.

 

I will, of course, show my sexist side and say that if some really attractive young lady wants to post images like that, just let me know where they are. :huh: Of course this may be offensive to others (why I can't imagine but there are those...).

 

Seriously, what should be done about this, if anything. At the very least this guy (yes guy, and not the sort that I think anyone want to see with nothing on and an ammo box cache covering over his... :P ) shouldn't post these images. A little self respect is apparently not on the top of his list of things to worry about.

 

Should cache owners be responsible for this? Should geocache give them a warning and keep them from posting if they do not cease? Am I overreacting?

 

Thoughts...

I find your post quite hilarious! First, I assume that you wrote your post very much tongue-in-cheek, as a humorous wake-up call on an otherwise boring Saturday morning! On the other hand, if you are serious, well, I feel that you are GROSSLY overreaacting to nothing. Even out here on the East Coast, many of us -- including myself -- who have heard of nudecacher find him and his exploits fun and amusing, and a good excuse for a smile in an otherwise overly-serious world. Speaking of overly-serious, if you were not joking in your post, then this matter of over-seriousness may be an issue for you, too...

 

And, assuming for the moment that you are serious: I have NEVER seen any picture on nudecacher's gallery that would be at all offensive, or that exposes any more skin than males regularly show on prime-time television, even in the before-10 PM marketplace aimed largely at kids, or in movies rated G and PG. And, gee, if you want to get prudish on us, well then, allow me, if you will, to advise you that the amount of, shall we say, "risque-factor", for the photos shown on nudecacher's site is NOTHING compared to what I have seen in the profiles and galleries of several women from Texas and surrounding states (not that I am complaining about them -- I personally find the websites by the two women who come to mind hilarious and cute, to boot -- one of the galleries was an underground hit on the national forums three months ago!)

 

And gee, if you are really gonna be a true prude, then why did you not raise the alarm a couple of weeks ago when the image gallery on the home page of geocaching.com regularly flashed a photo -- shot in Hungary by a male Hungarian cacher and his two young sons -- of a cute young 20-something woman sitting on a park bench in shorts, with her hand scratching in... well... ever mind! :huh: That photo became the underground fad of the moment on the national forums! :D:huh: (again, allow me to note that I found the photo cute and fun, and did not find it offensive...) :D

 

Lastly, if you are truly offended by the images found in nudecacher's gallery, then I suggest that you stop looking at them, and make it a point not to return to his gallery. Oh, and you may wish to make a point of not ever linking to his gallery or profile page on your own pages!

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2oldfarts (the rockhounders)

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Seriously, what should be done about this, if anything. At the very least this guy (yes guy, and not the sort that I think anyone want to see with nothing on and an ammo box cache covering over his... :laughing: ) shouldn't post these images. A little self respect is apparently not on the top of his list of things to worry about.

 

Should cache owners be responsible for this? Should geocache give them a warning and keep them from posting if they do not cease? Am I overreacting?

 

Thoughts...

 

It appears as though he has self respect AND self confidence. He poses in a manner that very few find offensive and has a good time caching (weather permitting :D ).

 

What would you expect the cache owner to do about your problem? The cache owner has no way to prevent some city slicker from looking for his cache, just as he has no way to prevent some prude from looking for his cache! :P

 

Relax, try nude caching, you may enjoy yourself even!

 

John

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Vinny & Sue Team

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oh my goodness I find that just great. very fun and funny to me.

 

though if I saw a naked man walking towards me on the trail I would run, not walk, the other way. :laughing:

This actually happened to a local cacher who was geocaching in a state park in the Shenandoah area of Virginia about two months ago, according to some of our VA geo-friends! Like you, the geocacher did not stick around to find out why the man was walking around naked on a Sunday morning, and instead, he reportedly ran the other way!

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Keystone

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I know that Groundspeak is well aware of this geocacher's image gallery. They have worked with him to establish standards that are acceptable to the website. The same is true here in the Groundspeak Forums, where the moderator team has cooperated with Nudecacher to be sure that his forum conduct meets our posting guidelines.

 

What is truly offensive to me as a forum moderator are personal attacks such as this:

 

At the very least this guy (yes guy, and not the sort that I think anyone want to see with nothing on and an ammo box cache covering over his... :laughing: ) shouldn't post these images. A little self respect is apparently not on the top of his list of things to worry about.

 

Yes, the site TOU and forum guidelines contain a family-friendly standard, which turns on the word "obscene." But there is also this standard:

 

Personal Attacks and Flames will not be tolerated. If you want to praise or criticize, give examples as to why it is good or bad, general attacks on a person or idea will not be tolerated.

The forum guidelines also call for everyone to respect those with differing opinions. Personally, I do not follow or endorse Nudecacher's lifestyle, but I respect his right to practice it, so long as he does so in a way that is respectful of others and in compliance with the local laws and the policies of this website. If he does cross the line drawn by this website, I am quite sure that there would be further communication between them.

 

Please confine the discussion to the images being posted, without attacking the geocacher's physical appearance or perceived lack of self respect. Thank you.

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Trucker Lee

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If you wish to clean up the world, this is not the place to start. There is nothing shown in the logs that can't be seen on your television most given nights, or at the theatre. At least here, you get the option to click or not to click, television doesn't give you a warning. Even during a recent golf tourney telecast, we got a bit of nudity, and a chuckle watching security trying to catch "the streak".

 

So long as nudecacher keeps covered in some way, he isn't in any trouble for posting explicit photos. Just don't click his logs. And be thankful that others who are not quite as fit don't do this as well.

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chancerider

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I think the pics in his gallery are histerical! I didn't look at all of them, just a couple of pages to see that (in my mind anyway) there was no obscene content. I'd heard of nudecacher before in the forums, but never even thought that he'd post pics.

 

Okay, that said, my husband would probably describe me as a prude :P And, I don't think it's something I'd ever engage in.... don't want to be responsible for scaring the heck outta some poor innocent cacher when they stumble upon me at a cache! :laughing:

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whistler & co.

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Definitions of 'obscene' (ŏb-sēn) - 4 definitions - The American Heritage® Dictionary

 

obscene (adj.) Offensive to accepted standards of decency or modesty.

obscene (adj.) Inciting lustful feelings; lewd.

obscene (adj.) Repulsive; disgusting:“The way he writes about the disease that killed her is simply obscene” (Michael Korda)

 

I don't feel that his pictures are "offensive to accepted standards of decency or modesty", because his essential "parts" are always covered.

If his pictures are "inciting lustful feelings" in anyone, that's their problem!

He's not "repulsive" or "disgusting". We're ALL naked under our clothes! He's just not wearing anything to hide his nakedness.

 

My 5 year old and 13 year old have both seen some of the pictures from his gallery, and their basic response is just "ewww." We wouldn't do it, but to each his own. If you don't like it, don't look...

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disenchanted

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Okay, I've only brought this up because I stumbled across a log and profile that made me fall out of my chair. There is a cacher with the name of "nudecacher". Now I thought that this was perhaps just something that they thought was humorous, but apparently not. The images attributed to this individual are nothing less then disturbing.

 

Now I'm not a prude ( :laughing: really?) I'm all for the beauty of the human body :D, but there is a time and a place for it. And images on the geocaching website are in my opinion (there is that statement everyone loves) just wrong. If you take a look at the individuals posts, you'll understand.

 

I will, of course, show my sexist side and say that if some really attractive young lady wants to post images like that, just let me know where they are. :P Of course this may be offensive to others (why I can't imagine but there are those...).

 

Seriously, what should be done about this, if anything. At the very least this guy (yes guy, and not the sort that I think anyone want to see with nothing on and an ammo box cache covering over his... :D ) shouldn't post these images. A little self respect is apparently not on the top of his list of things to worry about.

 

Should cache owners be responsible for this? Should geocache give them a warning and keep them from posting if they do not cease? Am I overreacting?

 

Thoughts...

 

Are you freaking kidding me???????

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budd-rdc

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Should cache owners be responsible for this? Should geocache give them a warning and keep them from posting if they do not cease? Am I overreacting?

 

Thoughts...

 

If you want my opinion, you are overreacting. His nudity is not sexual (no one has dared to say this yet :laughing: ). I would love to see the photo gallery of a Playboy Playmate turned Geocacher, but I'm not sure Groundspeak's servers can handle that. :D

 

However, Cache Heads' reply which forces you to see another of his photo was a bit rude, especially since you already said you are offended by it. I'll never do that to you since I respect your opinion. Hopefully, you are willing to do the same and respect nudecacher's as long as he isn't forcing it on you. :P

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Snoogans

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Best gallery on Groundspeak-- hands down. I don't find him offensive, I find him inspiring :laughing::D:P

 

Me too. :D Gary has inspired mannny other cachers to free themselves from what he calls textile bondage.

 

Several of his pictures are posted on MY caches that he has found and they are some of my favorites.

 

As has been stated earlier, there's NOTHING at all sexual about them.

 

He has been so inspiring to me that I placed a locationless terracache in his honor. Here's one of the best shots:

 

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If the weight of public opinion means anything to the OP my "Nude Cacher" locationless cache is very highly rated. If it had been considered offensive, the other terracachers could have voted it down to the point where it would self-archive.

 

Here's the cache description: (LINKY: You will hafta join terracaching to view the pictures.)

 

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I was very honored that one of the more original geocachers out there (Nudecacher) chose one of my caches (The FrogStar: West) to hunt. Now, you have a chance to claim an extra find for being different too.

 

As the example above illustrates, ya gotta log this one in the buff.

 

You must show the cache container, or the cache log book in the photo AT the actual cache location AND you must artfully mask any "naughty" parts, or at least black them out. This isn't a porn cache.

 

THIS IS A GEOCACHING DARE! Are you up for it? Sure, you could wear a Speedo, or a thong and Photoshop, but you would be cheating yourself and since Terracaching is also for score, you'd be cheating the entire Terracaching community.

 

Rules:

 

This goes without saying, but still.... THE SUBJECT(S) OF THE PHOTO MUST BE AT LEAST 18 YEARS OF AGE!

 

1) You MUST be nude with the exception of shoes or a hat. No porn shots. (You can't use a previous photo from before the date that this locationless cache was listed.) The more artful the shot you can get, the better.

 

2) You must give the cache title and TC, or GC, number of your "Nude Cache."

 

3) The cache container or the cache log book must be in the shot.

 

4) You must SHOW at least most of your face. You can still wear sunglasses and a hat, but NO anonymus shots. We hafta KNOW it's you. (As of 2/10/05)

 

I would prefer that you mention this Terracaching locationless find in that cache log as well, but I'm not going to require it.

 

NOW, I double dog dare you to claim a find on this cache!

 

Don't MAKE me start kluckin' at ya......

 

Snoogans

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Nudecacher

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I just wonder about how much DEET and sunscreen he must go through :P

 

Actually, not that much. We only have a few places around where the DEET is needed and I'm usually not out in the sun so much but what the amount of tan that I have handles it. When I get sunburn, it's on my forehead and the top of my feet. :laughing:

 

I've been a nudist for about 12 years and am the webmaster for the LARCnudists club. I can't post the link here because of the somewhat commercial content, but it's easy to find. There are lot's more pictures there, but they are family friendly too. The club works hard at being family friendly and safe, there's no harm to children from non-sexual nudity. After all, the human species had 2 million years of history before the compulsive clothing requirement arrived.

 

Thanks for the discussion and keep caching.

 

Nudecacher

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ATMouse

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Hmmm...there are many nude camps and beaches and family-oriented resorts out there. They are clean and neat and you ought to go visit.

 

It might make you think about the difference between nudity and obscenity.

 

Nudecacher has always been a gentleman in my experience. His pics are far from obscene.

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4leafclover

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Hmmm...there are many nude camps and beaches and family-oriented resorts out there. They are clean and neat and you ought to go visit.

 

It might make you think about the difference between nudity and obscenity.

 

Nudecacher has always been a gentleman in my experience. His pics are far from obscene.

 

I could not agree more with Ms. Mouse. NC has been posting in off topic with us a lot more now, and I have found him to be an extremely entertaining, gentlemanly person. His pictures are NOT obscene, and if they are offensive to YOU, then I suggest you no longer look at his gallery. Spend a little more time getting to know the person, and maybe you'd change your tune.

 

NC...I am still trying to get up the nerve to take a pic "NC-Style"!

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wandat24

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I have to say, NudeCacher is one of my favorite persons to talk with. In fact I can't wait to have a chance to cache with him. He even offered to wear clothes. If you look through his gallery and talk with him you will see he doesn’t believe in pushing this onto anyone. When he needs to wear them he does put clothes on.

I enjoy his and other cacher's pictures taken in this manner. There is Nothing Sexual at all in any of them. I think (as has been said) you need to visit a nudist colony and see what it's all about. Or atlest a site of one.

IMHO I think the problem is, perhaps the OP is a man and so is NC. AS you all woulda noticed he said he wouldn't mind if a nice looking lady posted like that. Well, a News Flash for the OP, they cover everything up when they take the pictures as well.

Now, before I have to self moderate much more, I'm going to go. I will add that because of the self moderation I haven't been able to say near as much as I'd love to.

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ThePropers

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It's just like Janet gate all over again! Won't somebody please think of the children! What if they were to see a partially naked body! They'd be scarred for life!!

 

But no, I'm not offended. Of course, I'm not from the Bible Belt (Sorry, but I just had to check to see where the OP is from, and was not surprised).

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Nudecacher

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That is way to funny :blink:

 

So does he go nude to 100% of the caches he visits? Does that include events?

 

Most of the events I've gone to incognito. :huh:

They're seldom held in nude friendly locations.

 

Nudecacher

 

[ps. I get more "Oh, I know you!" responses than "I didn't recognize you with your clothes on.". ]

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cachew nut

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It's just like Janet gate all over again! Won't somebody please think of the children! What if they were to see a partially naked body! They'd be scarred for life!!

 

But no, I'm not offended. Of course, I'm not from the Bible Belt (Sorry, but I just had to check to see where the OP is from, and was not surprised).

No, you are not from the Bible Belt, but you are awfully close to Lancaster :blink: I don't think the OP mentioned being offended, and I don't think his location has much to do with anything. I think he is just surprised to have seen Nudecacher for the first time.

 

I will admit that I was surprised the first time I saw one of his pictures on this site too. I've since realized that everyone has got a gimmick, and this is his. As long as he's not letting it all hang out, it's ok and even humorous.

 

And nothing wrong with thinking about the children, some day you may think about them too. :huh:

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Shoknaw

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Just think - someone has to take all the pictures! :blink:

 

The photographer in my pictures are mostly family members or they are a self-photo with the timer on the camera. There are a few other cases, though.

 

Nudecacher

 

I've taken his picture while caching. I have been to several Events NC has attended.

 

Politically we are far apart, but he is a gentleman and my friend.

 

Cache on Gary.. :huh:

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wildchld97

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I just wonder about how much DEET and sunscreen he must go through :huh:

 

Actually, not that much. We only have a few places around where the DEET is needed and I'm usually not out in the sun so much but what the amount of tan that I have handles it. When I get sunburn, it's on my forehead and the top of my feet. :D

 

I've been a nudist for about 12 years and am the webmaster for the LARCnudists club. I can't post the link here because of the somewhat commercial content, but it's easy to find. There are lot's more pictures there, but they are family friendly too. The club works hard at being family friendly and safe, there's no harm to children from non-sexual nudity. After all, the human species had 2 million years of history before the compulsive clothing requirement arrived.

 

Thanks for the discussion and keep caching.

 

Nudecacher

 

Aww geez. I was just going to go home and go to bed after working a full day in hell with florescent lighting but I had to reply. Nudecacher is someone who I would really love to meet. Why? Because when you meet people without their clothes, you get to know the *real* person inside. They say that "clothes will make or break a person." That's because people tend to pre-judge a person based upon how well or how poorly they are dressed. I've spent the last two years at a resort in Jamaica and a few other resorts elsewhere where people are nude or clothes are optional. From the doctors and lawyers right down to the simple farmer..rich and poor, young and old alike, we are all the same and we enjoyed each other's company simply because there was no overt class distinction.

 

My biggest problem with what biosearch said is this statement:

 

" I will, of course, show my sexist side and say that if some really attractive young lady wants to post images like that, just let me know where they are. Of course this may be offensive to others (why I can't imagine but there are those...).

 

Now he prefaced this statement by saying "I'm all for the beauty of the human body , but there is a time and a place for it. And images on the geocaching website are in my opinion (there is that statement everyone loves) just wrong."

 

Does anyone see the oxymoron here?

 

Essentially, he's saying that posting nude pictures is fine as long as they are of *women*. I'll go so far as to assume that as long as those pictures are of young and beautiful women they would pass muster, but if you would post a picture of an old fat woman, he'll scream obscene again.

 

Nudecacher obscene? Please, anyone that has the iron wa wa's to cache nude in the woods has my seal of

approval.

 

I would be honored to have nudecacher stay with us anytime that he's in Pittsburgh. I guarantee he won't have to dress for dinner. :blink:

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briansnat

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I find it odd that his gallery is tolerated and even endorsed in some respects, but this poem

got someone banned for 30 days. :blink:

 

Could some explain that to me?

 

OK, I'll try. There is nothing wrong with Nudecacher's gallery. Its not obscene, dirty or immoral and only offensive to a small segment of pharisetics.

 

And that "poem" had very little to do with the author getting a "time out".

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Nudecacher

Nudecacher

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. . . when you meet people without their clothes, you get to know the *real* person inside. . . .

 

Actually, I'm pretty much the same with or without clothes. :blink:

Even the little old ladies at church know that I'm a nudist. I'm probably a lot more open about it than most nudists. Actually, it's funny, when you say that you've been to a nudist club at church, you get exactly the same reaction that you get when you say that you've been to church at a nudist club. :huh:

 

Nudecacher

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