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I am not a math wizard, so correct me if I am wrong, but...

4 digits that are changeable.

Each of the digits can contain the letters A thru Z and the numbers 0 thru 9. This makes a total of 36 different digits for each position.

So, 36 times 36 times 36 times 36 = 1,679,616 different combinations.

Is this not how it works? Can someone please enlighten me.

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I am not a math wizard, so correct me if I am wrong, but...

4 digits that are changeable.

Each of the digits can contain the letters A thru Z and the numbers 0 thru 9. This makes a total of 36 different digits for each position.

So, 36 times 36 times 36 times 36 = 1,679,616 different combinations.

Is this not how it works? Can someone please enlighten me.

Some letters are not used because of their similarity to numbers or to prevent the spelling of dirty words.

I don't recall off-hand what they are, but there you go. It's under 36.

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I don't know anything about the math, but I do know that we are just about through the GCY***s. The end is near.

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And now to something totally different:

From the caches in my GSAK-base (about 3300 caches in Norway). I sat down and counted the 3rd digit in the waypoint name (the one after GC) and found:

3rdDigit/Count

G 141

H 131

J 257

K 341

M 226

N 256

P 303

Q 280

R 136

T 76

V 174

W 346

X 324

Y 184

Why so few T's?

Many offending words in english starting with T?

Seems to be about 30.000 waypoint combinations left before expanding the code is required.

No date guessing from me, but it may be close to my birthday as well.

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And now to something totally different:

From the caches in my GSAK-base (about 3300 caches in Norway). I sat down and counted the 3rd digit in the waypoint name (the one after GC) and found:

3rdDigit/Count

G 141

H 131

J 257

K 341

M 226

N 256

P 303

Q 280

R 136

T 76

V 174

W 346

X 324

Y 184

Why so few T's? ...

My guess is that they were cruising through the Ts during winter.
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I am not a math wizard, so correct me if I am wrong, but...

4 digits that are changeable.

Each of the digits can contain the letters A thru Z and the numbers 0 thru 9. This makes a total of 36 different digits for each position.

So, 36 times 36 times 36 times 36 = 1,679,616 different combinations.

Is this not how it works? Can someone please enlighten me.

See this thread and post #30

http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php...4&hl=gczzzz

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My guess is that they were cruising through the Ts during winter.

Well yes, it was a long winter in Norway latest season and the activity of placeing caches is a little lower then.

I'll be quiet now.

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My b-day last day of year or New years eve or day 365 or December 31th.

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Using the 4 digits that are changeable, that makes a total of 1,679,616 caches that can be hidden with the present system. Don't think we will run out in the near future.

Um, no. The present system allows for 512,400 caches. Today we are at around 477,500, which only leaves around 35,000 left to go. At the rate they are being placed, we're getting close to the end.

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November 10, 2006 - My Birthday!

It looks like I need to update my prediction with a time.

November 10, 2006 at 1:36 am

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this thread confuses me Or embarrasses me Now I know why I hardly ever figure out puzzle caches. Maybe I'm not smart enough for this sport. I am forever thankful for my GPSr to do the work for me most of the time!

Oh, and how about November 4th. My geo anniversary date!

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I narrowed down the geocache codes assigned and it appears that at 7:21am my time (PST) today GCYW0H is the last one that has been assigned (but not yet published).

I have hidden hopes of getting one of my new geocache ideas assigned to GCZZZZ - yeah, right, like that'll happen (but you never know )

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I listed 8 caches yesterday, 15/10/06 about 1.30pm AEST. It took me a little over an hour to list the 8. Their waypoints are, in order, GCYWG9, GCYWGE, GCYWGK, GCYWGV, GCYWH0, GCYWH4, GCYWHA, GCYWHG. You can see how fast the cache waypoint names are assigned, and used. And to disprove the theory that all the combinations of letters and numerals for the last 4 places are used, one of those caches listed is a christmas themed cache, which got me wondering if GCXMAS had been assigned. It has, but if you search for GCXMA5, you get the same cache. So in saying that, I would be surprised if GCZZZZ gets used, as it would be so close to GC2222, or any of the combinations of 2 or Z

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My guess is Nov. 14, 2006 15:36 PDT

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November 11, 2006

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is there an issue with just adding another digit? or is this just a benchmark?

I'm a noob, so I don't know.

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Nope, just a mildstone.

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Nope, just a mildstone.

I'm going to say November 1, 2006 at 12:01am PDT

BTW- GCYXD2 is the last one I can get before a server error hits

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Nope, just a mildstone.

I'm going to say November 1, 2006 at 12:01am PDT

BTW- GCYXD2 is the last one I can get before a server error hits

Same deadline as above.

Current Waypoint is GCYXFJ at 8:45am MDT (utah, United States)

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Nope, just a mildstone.

A buddy of mine just passed stones. He told me than none of them were mild.

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Where getting closer, I just got GCYZGV.

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Where getting closer, I just got GCYZGV.

Bump

Current waypoint in use is GCZ1F1 at 11:55am MST (Utah, United States)

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Current waypoint in use is GCZ1F1 at 11:55am MST (Utah, United States)

As of 10:19am MT (Utah, United States) we are at GCZ1WK for a waypoint.

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It is now clear that my original Oct 30th date was off but I am still sticking by my revised guess of Nov 20th - just re-analyzed and that is feeling pretty good right now.

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At 9:53 CDT waypoint GCZ244 was issued... we're getting there fast.

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STARDATE -315841.0388127854

For all you Star Trek fans.

Yeah, it's a real date. Google Stardate Calculator.

Hey, what a great idea for a puzzle cache!

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I am sticking with December 17th at 8:15pm MST

hey, wait a second, isn't there usually some money in an office pool?

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hey, wait a second, isn't there usually some money in an office pool?

Yes, there sure is. Check with your office to be sure.

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is there an issue with just adding another digit? or is this just a benchmark?

I'm a noob, so I don't know.

Actually there is an issue if you are using older GPSr's that are limited to 6 waypoint letters, like the older Garmin eTrex's and Gekos. You can get around this by using tools to filter your waypoints, like GPX Spinner or GSAK/gpsbabel.

You can also upgrade to a newer GPSr, then people won't call you cheap.

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UPDATE

Currently we have GCZ2P6 for a waypoint before errors occur.

and

There are 326402 active caches worldwide.

In the last 7 days, there have been 190853 new logs written by 31473 account holders.

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UPDATE

Current waypoint is GCZ4CY at 8:43pm mst (utah, USA)

with

There are 327186 active caches worldwide.

In the last 7 days, there have been 187604 new logs written by 31204 account holders.

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yeah, yeah, but WHERE will it be?

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yeah, yeah, but WHERE will it be?

Let's see....

In the US.

Just above the surface of the ground.

Just going with the percentages here.

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I say it should be reserved for Jeremy to hide a front yard cache at his house

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I say it should be reserved for Jeremy to hide a front yard cache at his house

Chance of that happening? Zero

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I am not a math wizard, so correct me if I am wrong, but...

4 digits that are changeable.

Each of the digits can contain the letters A thru Z and the numbers 0 thru 9. This makes a total of 36 different digits for each position.

So, 36 times 36 times 36 times 36 = 1,679,616 different combinations.

Is this not how it works? Can someone please enlighten me.

Hello,

there are just 31 letters used in Geocaching, as far as I understand it.

But I don't get why the first to positions are "wasted" with GC, thats redundant information.

And I don't see why O and 0 or 1 and I can get confused? Most users never type in the numbers, it's all copy and paste or transferred with a software, so why bother?

Even if someone confuses a zero for an O, I asssume that will not be the end of the world. Just read some FAQ und they will help you? Or some clever software which will ask: "Did you mean GXXXX0 after you searched for GXXXO"

Some combinations are not used, because certain people are offended by everything, or they are just so sexxxlly frustrated, that they see a reference to it everywhere. So no GCFxCK cache, I assume.

GermanSailor

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Some people still WRITE the numbers, and then it could get very confusing

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UPDATE

Current waypoint is GCZ522 at 11:18am mst (utah,USA)

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Some people still WRITE the numbers.

I am that kind person.

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25 more since last update...

EDIT: Needed the time stamp for my post...

That's 70 minutes and 25 more if anyone wants to work out the current length needed to reach the endpoint from a local velocity...

(512400 - 487479)/25 * 70 = how many minutes left...works out to about December 18, 2006.

Of course, that's from a sampled rate of only about an hour...so less accurate than if someone wants to work out all of the previous updates...

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Using the methodology I have described in earlier posts, I have extended my data for the last couple of months. Barring an enormous run on cache numbers, looks like we'll reach GCZZZZ on or near December 12. I guess I better change my date (which was November 23).

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A couple things to consider though.

Cache submission drop in the winter

HOWEVER

I anticipate a race at the end to get GCZZZZ. I actually think it may get here earlier than anticipated because people will start submitting bogus requests just to get either GCZZZZ or the new 7 digit GC#

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Two events just published in So. Cal.

GCZ5V3

GCZ5V8

I don't know if this is on any predicted pace or not, I just hadn't seen an update.

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UPDATE

Current Waypoint is GCZ630 at 7:07pm mst (utah, USA)

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UPDATE

Current Waypoint is GCZ6J8 at 12:19 mst (utah, USA)

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UPDATE

Current Waypoint is GCZ889 at 1:21pm mst (utah, USA)

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UPDATE

Current Waypoint is GCZ8Y4 at 9:51pm mst (utah, USA)

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UPDATE

Current Waypoint is GCZ8Y4 at 9:51pm mst (utah, USA)

Thanks for the update's.

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UPDATE

Current Waypoint is GCZAEZ at 12:13pm mst (utah, USA)

We Have finally made it to the letters. Not too much longer.

My new estimate for GCZZZZ is now at December 25, 2006.

I know its christmas day but That is what I am guessing now.

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UPDATE

Current Waypoint is GCZAEZ at 12:13pm mst (utah, USA)

We Have finally made it to the letters. Not too much longer.

My new estimate for GCZZZZ is now at December 25, 2006.

I know its christmas day but That is what I am guessing now.

That is my guess too..... :blink: :huh: My Birthday!

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