+daytribe Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 I'd like to get the Garmin Topo maps of the UK and City Navigator but they're devilishly expensive. Does anyone know where either of these can be bought cheaper? Quote Link to comment
+Sue and Bernie Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 I'd like to get the Garmin Topo maps of the UK and City Navigator but they're devilishly expensive. Does anyone know where either of these can be bought cheaper? I have no comments about the topo software but can bore for Britain about City Navigator software.... Garmin City Navigator Europe (CN) is only supplied with hardware sold in Europe. Similarly, CN USA is only supplied with hardware in the US and so on. We can buy CN USA here along with any other CN version (other than Europe) - it is very expensive but Garmin will sell the software separately to add to your local CN software provided with your hardware. This is called marketing! Without being unlocked the software will not autoroute and does not display fully on some units. CN software must be unlocked to the internal serial number of the unit you intend to use it with. Garmin will allow you to unlock the software to two different Garmin units - I have my CN Europe V8 unlocked to work with a Streetpilot 2610 (that came with CN) and a Vista Cx handheld unit. ...so avoid buying City Navigator unless you get it with unused codes or get the hardware with it - and if you buy hardware with CN, make sure you have the second unlock available with the software. Quote Link to comment
+TheRoundings Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 I bought the UK Topo maps from: www.globalpositioningsystems.co.uk for £139.95 including VAT and delivery - it was one of the best prices I could find at the time. Quote Link to comment
+NickandAliandEliza Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Re; Garmin TOPO Is this too good to be true? Quote Link to comment
+macroderma Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Re; Garmin TOPO Is this too good to be true? Looks good - the normal signs of 'dodgyness' are not there Quote Link to comment
+NickandAliandEliza Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Re; Garmin TOPO Is this too good to be true? Looks good - the normal signs of 'dodgyness' are not there OK - You buy one first and let me know if it works. He has 93 apparently! Quote Link to comment
+macroderma Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Re; Garmin TOPO Is this too good to be true? Looks good - the normal signs of 'dodgyness' are not there OK - You buy one first and let me know if it works. He has 93 apparently! Ah, missed that bit Ignore everything I say.... Quote Link to comment
barryhunter Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 (edited) Don't know if you aware but you can get a similar product to the TOPO product (that covers Ireland Too!) for FREE (legally)! [Edit: Well OK you only get the peaks/contours not the road mapping, POIS etc, but you get them in the navigator etc products anyway] Edited July 8, 2006 by barryhunter Quote Link to comment
The Toughs Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 I have just bought the Topo maps for my CSx, for the standard price. The detail of contours, water courses etc is excellent, but I have noticed one glaring mistake local to us. A local coffee shop seems to have jumped 3 villages and about 7 miles Quote Link to comment
+roolku Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 Re; Garmin TOPO Is this too good to be true? Looks good - the normal signs of 'dodgyness' are not there OK - You buy one first and let me know if it works. He has 93 apparently! Ah, missed that bit Ignore everything I say.... Hehe, look at his recent transactions: - jiffy bags - CD labels - CD sleeves Quote Link to comment
The Toughs Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 Re; Garmin TOPO Is this too good to be true? Looks good - the normal signs of 'dodgyness' are not there OK - You buy one first and let me know if it works. He has 93 apparently! Ah, missed that bit Ignore everything I say.... Hehe, look at his recent transactions: - jiffy bags - CD labels - CD sleeves Sounds old fashioned but the saying "if it seems too good to be true it probably is" may apply here Quote Link to comment
+stora Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 I've been watching this listing over the last week. Quote from one of his feedbacks "Not original disk, but works OK and good price. Thanks." Quote Link to comment
+Pharisee Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 As the photo on Ebay looks like genuine Garmin stuff, I sent the vender an email asking if it actually was genuine Garmin complete with unlock codes.... Never got a reply!! Quote Link to comment
+Mad H@ter Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 (edited) As the photo on Ebay looks like genuine Garmin stuff, I sent the vender an email asking if it actually was genuine Garmin complete with unlock codes.... Never got a reply!! Ditto He's certainly making a packet out these at that price if they are copies! edit that's 32 copies sold at £50 = £1600 and that does not include his OTT P&P at £10 Edited July 17, 2006 by Phillimore Clan Quote Link to comment
+Sue and Bernie Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 As the photo on Ebay looks like genuine Garmin stuff, I sent the vender an email asking if it actually was genuine Garmin complete with unlock codes.... Never got a reply!! Ditto! There are going to be a lot, no - 32 sets, of disappointed people when they try to use their "new" software and find they need codes to unlock the software... Quote Link to comment
+pieces_of_8 Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 I've been watching the Ebay listing for a few days...... there is some feed back coming in now....OH DEAR...springs to mind..stay clear. Quote Link to comment
lakeuk Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 I've been watching the Ebay listing for a few days...... there is some feed back coming in now....OH DEAR...springs to mind..stay clear. Anyone not happy with the purchase should report it to FAST Quote Link to comment
+NickandAliandEliza Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Re; Garmin TOPO Is this too good to be true? Looks good - the normal signs of 'dodgyness' are not there OK - You buy one first and let me know if it works. He has 93 apparently! Ah, missed that bit Ignore everything I say.... Hehe, look at his recent transactions: - jiffy bags - CD labels - CD sleeves Sounds old fashioned but the saying "if it seems too good to be true it probably is" may apply here "if it seems too good to be true it probably is" Quote Link to comment
+Boardslider Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 Sorry to revive such an old thread, but I was clearing out my ebay watchlist and took another look at this - great feedback Here Even the guy who said not original, but OK soon changed his mind. Oo er Quote Link to comment
+stora Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 Sorry to revive such an old thread, but I was clearing out my ebay watchlist and took another look at this - great feedback Here Even the guy who said not original, but OK soon changed his mind. Oo er I've been watching it too. The seller is no longer registered with ebay. :-) I've also forwarded the link to Gamin, just in case they are interested too. Quote Link to comment
+TastyMarmots Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 My first post. Rather pleased that this thread was "reopened" as it gives the opportunity to sort of re-ask the first question. Is there a UK source from which you can purchase City Navigator Europe V8, or is it simply you have to buy for the US (and take you chance that it comes with unused unlock codes)? If the latter any recommendations? Also would appreciate thoughts on whether City Navigator the right way to go anyway? As I understand it City Navigator gives you essentially the whole of Europe with road autorouting. Topo GB gives the same road autorouting but for the UK only, and provides OS info/contours on top (although paths and similar are not that complete cf os maps!). Full Euro autorouting would be a very nice to have but not essential. If I am therefore starting from stratch (as I am) should I just go for the TOPO GB mapping? Simply confused... Happy Ferreters Quote Link to comment
+Sue and Bernie Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 City Navigator Europe software is not available as a standalone product in Europe, CN USA is not available over there - it is only available supplied with hardware. The Americans can buy CN Europe and we can buy CN USA over here. This is called marketing - and it's very expensive to boot! I have a SP 2160 with CN 8 Europe. I have used the second "unlock" available with this software to enable it to work with my Vista Cx. This give me full auto-routing with the Vista Cx on our pushbikes. While the Vista is excellent at directing the car about (I use it when I am away on business leaving the 2610 behind for Sue), but it is pretty dire on the bike. Selecting "Bicycle" and "Shortest route" in the settings appear to have no influence on the way the unit does its stuff. The Vista will still try to send you round the map, 3-sides-of-a-square or 2-sides-of-a-triangle to get you back to a major road. I have sent an email and diagram of the track from our recent 50 mile bike cycle. Straighest point between two waypoints on the Vista is a bloody long way off the optimum - even after I twigged and started to cut corners across the map. Quote Link to comment
+Bambi&Thumper Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 (edited) Also would appreciate thoughts on whether City Navigator the right way to go anyway? As I understand it City Navigator gives you essentially the whole of Europe with road autorouting. Topo GB gives the same road autorouting but for the UK only, and provides OS info/contours on top (although paths and similar are not that complete cf os maps!). Note, you don't need CN in order to auto-route. The cheaper and more easily available Metroguide Europe (which doesn't need unlock codes) will do it just fine if you use third party software (e.g. IMG2GPS) to transfer the maps. You can get contours and other stuff free too - check out some of the previous threads on the subject... Bambi. Edit: Speelung Edited August 8, 2006 by Bambi&Thumper Quote Link to comment
+TastyMarmots Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Thanks Bambi - some useful items there (as usual I hadn't used the right search terms in the first place otherwise might have spotted these) I didn't think that Metroguide Europe would autoroute but will look further into IMG2GPS. Much appreciated. Cheers Happy Ferreters Quote Link to comment
+stora Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Also would appreciate thoughts on whether City Navigator the right way to go anyway? As I understand it City Navigator gives you essentially the whole of Europe with road autorouting. Topo GB gives the same road autorouting but for the UK only, and provides OS info/contours on top (although paths and similar are not that complete cf os maps!). Note, you don't need CN in order to auto-route. The cheaper and more easily available Metroguide Europe (which doesn't need unlock codes) will do it just fine if you use third party software (e.g. IMG2GPS) to transfer the maps. You can get contours and other stuff free too - check out some of the previous threads on the subject... Bambi. Edit: Speelung Metroguide seems to work ok, but you will find the search function a bit of a hit and miss. Quote Link to comment
oddsock Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 (edited) Also would appreciate thoughts on whether City Navigator the right way to go anyway? As I understand it City Navigator gives you essentially the whole of Europe with road autorouting. Topo GB gives the same road autorouting but for the UK only, and provides OS info/contours on top (although paths and similar are not that complete cf os maps!). Note, you don't need CN in order to auto-route. The cheaper and more easily available Metroguide Europe (which doesn't need unlock codes) will do it just fine if you use third party software (e.g. IMG2GPS) to transfer the maps. You can get contours and other stuff free too - check out some of the previous threads on the subject... Bambi. Edit: Speelung Metroguide seems to work ok, but you will find the search function a bit of a hit and miss. Try the wizzard on this site ..it indexes the the maps to give you search facilities..... http://www.geodude.nl/gps/index.php Dave Edited August 8, 2006 by oddsock Quote Link to comment
+stora Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Have you tried this ? Looks like it uses sendmap, just the same as img2gps. Routing is fine on my 60csx its the search function thats hit and miss. Quote Link to comment
oddsock Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 (edited) Have you tried this ? Looks like it uses sendmap, just the same as img2gps. Routing is fine on my 60csx its the search function thats hit and miss. Yes! I have tried this and it does use the latest version of sendmap .what is good is that is competly automates the process of loading both the Metroguide maps with autorouting and it indexes them for the address search .The instructions and software are simple to use as they give links to switch between the wizard and MetroGuide....its superb!! Dave Edit: I use this on my gpsmap 60c with MG Europe V7 because the maptiles on my CN v8 are too large ....I made the mistake of upgrading my Quest from CS v6 to CN v8 before I had used the second unlock code on the 60c which meant I could only use CN v8 on it .....I contacted Garmin explaining my mistake and they refused to give me a code for CS V6 ( Garmin give no warning that this will happen) ...So be warned ..If you want to use both versions on two units make sure you unlock both before upgrading. Dave Edited August 9, 2006 by oddsock Quote Link to comment
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