+The red-haired witch Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 I saw one of those chains on the tv show "worst jobs in history", I wish I could remember exactly how long it was... Given that the British didn't tend to use nice number like 10 or 100, I'll guess it was 64 yards long, so that would be 1:46080. Quote Link to comment
+TheGertridgeExplorers Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 I saw one of those chains on the tv show "worst jobs in history", I wish I could remember exactly how long it was... Given that the British didn't tend to use nice number like 10 or 100, I'll guess it was 64 yards long, so that would be 1:46080. No. Here is a hint. Many road allowances/ Right of Ways were originally 1 chain wide. - Donna G Quote Link to comment
+1701eh Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 I saw one of those chains on the tv show "worst jobs in history", I wish I could remember exactly how long it was... Given that the British didn't tend to use nice number like 10 or 100, I'll guess it was 64 yards long, so that would be 1:46080. No. Here is a hint. Many road allowances/ Right of Ways were originally 1 chain wide. - Donna G I'll guess that the chain is 33' then which would work out to 1/7920 Quote Link to comment
+TheGertridgeExplorers Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 I saw one of those chains on the tv show "worst jobs in history", I wish I could remember exactly how long it was... Given that the British didn't tend to use nice number like 10 or 100, I'll guess it was 64 yards long, so that would be 1:46080. No. Here is a hint. Many road allowances/ Right of Ways were originally 1 chain wide. - Donna G I'll guess that the chain is 33' then which would work out to 1/7920 You are getting closer. You are "half" right Quote Link to comment
+1701eh Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 I saw one of those chains on the tv show "worst jobs in history", I wish I could remember exactly how long it was... Given that the British didn't tend to use nice number like 10 or 100, I'll guess it was 64 yards long, so that would be 1:46080. No. Here is a hint. Many road allowances/ Right of Ways were originally 1 chain wide. - Donna G I'll guess that the chain is 33' then which would work out to 1/7920 1/15840 You are getting closer. You are "half" right Quote Link to comment
+TOMTEC Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 I'll guess that the chain is 33' then which would work out to 1/7920 You are getting closer. You are "half" right that's a good one... GCK9BG TOMTEC Quote Link to comment
+TheGertridgeExplorers Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 (edited) I'll guess that the chain is 33' then which would work out to 1/7920 1/15840 You are getting closer. You are "half" right 1701eh is correct. 1 chain = 66 feet (or 4 rods) giving a scale of 1:15840 - I'm so happy we switched to Metric! - Donna G Edited August 23, 2006 by TheGertridgeExplorers Quote Link to comment
+1701eh Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 I'll guess that the chain is 33' then which would work out to 1/7920 1/15840 You are getting closer. You are "half" right 1701eh is correct. 1 chain = 66 feet (or 4 rods) giving a scale of 1:15840 - I'm so happy we switched to Metric! - Donna G I knew about the 66' road allowance and thus my guess that it might have been 33' previously. I'll have to think of a question now... Quote Link to comment
+1701eh Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Ok, here we go again.... First, let's establish some 'Facts' (don't shoot me if they are not official) Vancouver, BC is located at N49 15.710 W123 06.809 Smooth Rock Falls, ON (north of Timmons) is located at N49 15.710 W081 37.417 If you were to take the shortest, direct route (as the crow flies; not limited by roads) between these two points, roughly how much would your north coordinate change during the trip? Quote Link to comment
+Couparangus Posted August 23, 2006 Author Share Posted August 23, 2006 I think I know this one!!! 2 degrees? As for the chains, I'm sorry I missed that one as I would've got it. I learned long ago that the reason the concession roads are 1.25 miles is because that makes 'em 6,600ft which is 100 chains. Quote Link to comment
+TheGertridgeExplorers Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 I think I know this one!!! 2 degrees? As for the chains, I'm sorry I missed that one as I would've got it. I learned long ago that the reason the concession roads are 1.25 miles is because that makes 'em 6,600ft which is 100 chains. It's also an easy way to figure out how many sq ft in an acre: 1 acre = 1 chain x 10 chains = 66 ft x 660 ft = 43560 sq ft - Donna G Quote Link to comment
+1701eh Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 I think I know this one!!! 2 degrees? As for the chains, I'm sorry I missed that one as I would've got it. I learned long ago that the reason the concession roads are 1.25 miles is because that makes 'em 6,600ft which is 100 chains. Drat! I was hoping to see a guess of 'It wouldn't change cause it's the same north...' It is actually closer to 1 degree, 53 minutes and you would pass just south of Yorkton, SK The point here was that a straight line between two points is not always a straight line on a map. The only route that did not have a variation of the north would be between two points on the equator. You can try this for yourself if you have access to an old world globe. Most of you will have seen this if you've ever looked at the flightpaths map for an airline. The routes are usually the most direct route, but they appear curved on a flat map. Some people in Southern Ontario might not be aware that all of the cities in western Canada are actually more north than Timmins is (and we know how far north Timmins is, right? Wayyyyy up there...) Take it away CA... Quote Link to comment
+Couparangus Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share Posted August 24, 2006 Woohoo! I guess I was close enough. Lemme think of an easy one, and I'll make it a one-parter to keep things moving. What was the name of the terrestrial-based navigation system that was in wide use before the advent of GPS? Bonus points for its frequency of operation. Quote Link to comment
+TOMTEC Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Woohoo! I guess I was close enough. Lemme think of an easy one, and I'll make it a one-parter to keep things moving. What was the name of the terrestrial-based navigation system that was in wide use before the advent of GPS? Bonus points for its frequency of operation. I'm thinking it must be LORAN which operated somewhere around 100kHz or so... Supprisingly, a buddy of mine still has this installed on his boat! TOMTEC Quote Link to comment
+Couparangus Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share Posted August 24, 2006 We have a win-ah! Yes, 90-110kHz is where it operated. Ask away! Quote Link to comment
+TOMTEC Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 (edited) Alrighty... here's a question for all you night cachers. You have just achieved scotopic vision, (i.e. your eyes are fully dark adapted and you have become colour blind) What is the ideal colour (or wavelength) of light that will preserve your scotopic night vision, but at the same time, still produce enough light for navigation at minimum intensity? TOMTEC Edited August 25, 2006 by TOMTEC Quote Link to comment
danoshimano Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Alrighty... here's a question for all you night cachers. You have just achieved scotopic vision, (i.e. your eyes are fully dark adapted and you have become colour blind) What is the ideal colour (or wavelength) of light that will preserve your scotopic night vision, but at the same time, still produce enough light for navigation at minimum intensity? TOMTEC Red? Quote Link to comment
+LeGodFather Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Alrighty... here's a question for all you night cachers. You have just achieved scotopic vision, (i.e. your eyes are fully dark adapted and you have become colour blind) What is the ideal colour (or wavelength) of light that will preserve your scotopic night vision, but at the same time, still produce enough light for navigation at minimum intensity? TOMTEC Red? It is red. Any amateur astronomer knows that! Quote Link to comment
+TOMTEC Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 What is the ideal colour (or wavelength) of light that will preserve your scotopic night vision... Red? Red light will preserve your night vision, but it requires a much higher intensity of light to produce the same relative brightness to the eyes at low levels as the colour I'm looking for. Red light stimulates the cone (colour) receptors in your eye, but does not effect the rod (intensity) receptors at all. Unfortunately, a rod cell is close to 100 times more light sensitive than the cone cell. You'll keep your night vision, but the intensity of light required to see is far greater. So now that we've narrowed that down, what colour light are the rod receptors most sensitive to? TOMTEC Quote Link to comment
+LeGodFather Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Found it on a great website that says it all about the eye and how it sees the colors.. Will post it after the answer has been found. I have to admit, I did not know that! Quote Link to comment
+The red-haired witch Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Just guessing here. Blue? Quote Link to comment
+Couparangus Posted August 25, 2006 Author Share Posted August 25, 2006 I'll guess ultraviolet. Quote Link to comment
+bwmick Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Green. The old Army surplus flashlight we used to have had three lenses clear, red and green. If its not red it must be green, maybe. Quote Link to comment
+TOMTEC Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Blue? Green. Getting close... there is some blue in this colour, but there is also some green! Think printer ink! Who's gonna be first to say it? TOMTEC Quote Link to comment
+1701eh Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Blue? Green. Getting close... there is some blue in this colour, but there is also some green! Think printer ink! Who's gonna be first to say it? TOMTEC cyan Quote Link to comment
+TOMTEC Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 cyan Yep, Cyan (often called Turquoise or Teal) produces a Bluish-Green (or Greenish-Blue) light with a wavelength of 500-520 nm. At very low intensities, the eye is more sensitive to this colour light than red. Because of this high sensitivity, it is easy to use too intense of a light for a given application. Up until recently (newer, efficient LED's), Cyan was a difficult colour to produce, so Green was often used in it's place. Game on! TOMTEC Quote Link to comment
+LeGodFather Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 cyan Yep, Cyan (often called Turquoise or Teal) produces a Bluish-Green (or Greenish-Blue) light with a wavelength of 500-520 nm. At very low intensities, the eye is more sensitive to this colour light than red. Because of this high sensitivity, it is easy to use too intense of a light for a given application. Up until recently (newer, efficient LED's), Cyan was a difficult colour to produce, so Green was often used in it's place. Game on! TOMTEC Read all about it here. Quote Link to comment
+1701eh Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 What year was the first GPS satellite launched? Quote Link to comment
+graylling Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 What year was the first GPS satellite launched? Feb 22, 1978 Quote Link to comment
+1701eh Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 What year was the first GPS satellite launched? Feb 22, 1978 Correct. Your turn... Quote Link to comment
+graylling Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Hmmm I'll do a bit of thinking at work and come up with something tonight. Quote Link to comment
+graylling Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Ok I didn't have to wait for tonight to post this. As we all know the North Magnetic Pole (NMP) moves a little bit each year and is presently located in northern Canada. The Geological Survey of Canada keeps track of this motion by periodically carrying out magnetic surveys to redetermine the Pole's location The last survey (at least that I can find a record of) was done in 2001. What were the coords of the NMP at that time? And as a bonus. What were the estimated coords in 2005?? Quote Link to comment
+Juicepig Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 I think people might have to look that one up.. I would be suprised if anyone knows this.. Quote Link to comment
+LeGodFather Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 I think people might have to look that one up.. I would be suprised if anyone knows this.. I agree. Let's start the guessing game! N78 13.000 W96 37.000 I heard it was in Canada so I went into MapSource and chose an island up there and pretty much centered with Canada and the US and rounded the coords. But, then again, I could have thrown a dart on a paper map and got better coords! Quote Link to comment
+TOMTEC Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Hmm, let me just ask Santa... yep, he's still located at H0H 0H0! I recall magnetic North being located somewhere around Ellesmere Island in Nunavut... the only cordinates I have on my GPS for that general area are for the airstrip at CFS Alert at N82 31.066 W62 16.833 which is likely a few hundred kilometers away... hey, it's a start! TOMTEC Quote Link to comment
danoshimano Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 No idea on the cooridinates, but did I hear it is accelerating southward? When the poles flip, as many believe they are going to do any century now, I guess the stock prices for all the compass/navigation manufacturers will take a big jump. Quote Link to comment
+Juicepig Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 I am guessing South Ellesmere Island - N 77° 04' W 83° 06' Quote Link to comment
+graylling Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 Well people are getting closer. According to the survey it has been moving NW at about 40k a year and could be in Alaska or even Russia within a few years. GrosseFamille is the closest so far. Quote Link to comment
+graylling Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Wellsince no one seems to want to answer this one I'll pass it on to Gross Famille for another question. For reference the North Magnetic Pole was located at about N81.3 W110.8 in 2001 The only reason I know this is that i recently put together a quiz on geocaching and that was one of the questions. Quote Link to comment
+LeGodFather Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Wellsince no one seems to want to answer this one I'll pass it on to Gross Famille for another question. For reference the North Magnetic Pole was located at about N81.3 W110.8 in 2001 The only reason I know this is that i recently put together a quiz on geocaching and that was one of the questions. Close enough? Yay! Alright.. how much does a GPS satellite weight (in pounds, rounded to the thousands)? Quote Link to comment
+TOMTEC Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Alright.. how much does a GPS satellite weight (in pounds, rounded to the thousands)? Ok, first let's clarify... do you want it's weight on Earth, or it's weight once in orbit? TOMTEC Quote Link to comment
+LeGodFather Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Alright.. how much does a GPS satellite weight (in pounds, rounded to the thousands)? Ok, first let's clarify... do you want it's weight on Earth, or it's weight once in orbit? TOMTEC Yeah.. right.. uh.. on earth Quote Link to comment
CharlieZulu Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 With or without fuel? The ones built by Boeing (Block II-F) or the ones built by Lockheed Martin (Block II-R)? Anyways, I will guess about 2,000kg (launch weight, with fuel) Chris Quote Link to comment
+LeGodFather Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Hmmm.. you are confusing me with all your questions.. am I not the one who's asking the question here? Seriously, I understand.. So, here's the new, more precise question: How much does a BLOCK IIR GPS satellite weight in orbit (in pounds, rounded to the thousands of pounds)? If it still too confusing, I'll change the question completly. Sorry.. Quote Link to comment
CharlieZulu Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Sorry, the Company I work for is in the satellite biz, and everything is in kg. So, I'll guess 2000 lbs BOL (Beginning Of Life) Chris Quote Link to comment
+LeGodFather Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Sorry, the Company I work for is in the satellite biz, and everything is in kg. So, I'll guess 2000 lbs BOL (Beginning Of Life) Chris I too now understand Kgs better than lbs (except for my own weight!).. but my reference for this question is in pounds.. But, did you know that by typing "2000 Kg to lbs" in Google will get you: "2 000 kilograms = 4 409.24524 pounds" And vice versa "2000 lbs to Kg" will get you: "2 000 pounds = 907.18474 kilograms" Point of ref: 1Kg ≈2.20lbs 1lbs ≈0.45Kg or 454g Either way.. I'll give it to you.. because, I heard it was between 3000 and 4000 pounds, but, after you guys started asking questions (orbit, fuel,..) I saw that different "models" of GPS sat weighed different. Basically there are too many right answers.. CZ, your turn! Quote Link to comment
CharlieZulu Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Just as a matter of interest, the Telesat Canada's ANIK F2 satellite (built by Boeing) launch weight was about 13,000 lbs, I think the largest comsat ever built. And of course it was launched into GEO orbit, whereas the GPS birds are in MEO. Let me think about a new question! Chris Quote Link to comment
CharlieZulu Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Staying with satellites..... Once launched, regardless of orbit dynamics, satellites must be managed and operated from the ground. All kinds of monitoring and telemtery goes on, and just about every parameter you can think of is measured and recorded. (You would expect this to be the case, when you have a $100M asset zipping around up there.) Satellites are designed for a given on-orbit life, typically measured in years. The Anik F2 bird mentioned above has a predicted on-orbit life of 15 years. Q: what is the limiting factor to a satellite's on-orbit life? Quote Link to comment
+TOMTEC Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Q: what is the limiting factor to a satellite's on-orbit life? I can think of three things... but only one that would effect the design life, and that's the fuel capacity. Without fuel, the satellite will not be able to adjust to keep in it's designated orbit. Other items could cause the satellite to fail pre-maturely are loss of battery power, and damage to the solar pannel array. But, if these continue to function, the satellite should be able to run until the tank is dry! (Then it will eventually come crashing to earth in an uncontrolled fireball!) TOMTEC Quote Link to comment
CharlieZulu Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 TOMTEC is right. For a GEO satellite, the on-orbit life is simply a matter of how much fuel is left in the tanks for stationkeeping once the bird reaches it final orbit position. It is then a question of watching the "fuel gauge" for the next 15 years and de-orbiting the satellite (or parking it in a different plane) just before the tank runs dry. (Remember, for commercial satellites, they are up there to make money, so the longer the better.) The launch vehicle first throws the satellite into an elliptical orbit around the equator (called the Transfer Orbit), and then the ground controllers take over and fire the satellite's on-board kick motors to "circularize" the orbit. This "orbit insertion" process can take some time, and if the launch and insertion has all gone well, you will have 15 good years of service..... if all goes well! The fuel used is called Hydrazine, rhymes with magazine. Quote Link to comment
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