+pppingme Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 When an owner updates the coordinates for their cache, there is a log entry showing the new coordinates. I would like to see the log entry text also contain the old coordinates, that way, on ones I haven't found, it gives me an idea of how far off I was before I go look again. The problem now is the old coordinates are wiped and I have no reference to look at. I would just like the old coordinates to be part of the log. Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 If I understand you correctly, you are assuming the only reason for updating coordinates is that the original ones were wrong. While that may be true in some cases, I think the vast majority of updated coordinates are because the physical cache container was moved slightly. Thus, nothing to do with how close you were on a previous hunt. It is simply in a brand new location and you won't know how close you may have been to its old location. Link to comment
+pppingme Posted May 18, 2006 Author Share Posted May 18, 2006 I think even in that case, it could be of interest where the old cache was, but yes, my main interest would be for my personal DNF tracking. Link to comment
Jeremy Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 The reviewers have had a similar discussion. I think the "fix" may be to have a log entry that occurs when the listing is published - perhaps the publish log itself. That way for historical purposes you can see the first publish log to see the original coordinates. The only concern I have at this point is to make sure that if the cache is listed as subscriber-only that the log entry for publishing the listing isn't visible by non premium members. This is why the feature hasn't been implemented yet. But thanks for the request! I'll make sure I bump the priority of this feature. Link to comment
+TEAM 360 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Good idea! Putting it in the 'publish' log would be better than having it at the top of the cache page, where it would be sure to cause some confusion... Link to comment
+Lasagna Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 The reviewers have had a similar discussion. I think the "fix" may be to have a log entry that occurs when the listing is published - perhaps the publish log itself. That way for historical purposes you can see the first publish log to see the original coordinates. The only concern I have at this point is to make sure that if the cache is listed as subscriber-only that the log entry for publishing the listing isn't visible by non premium members. This is why the feature hasn't been implemented yet. But thanks for the request! I'll make sure I bump the priority of this feature. Aren't subscriber-only caches completely unreadable by non-premium members? I don't think you can see anything about these caches if you aren't a premium member -- writeup, coords, logs, etc. I think the issue you're getting at is probably more the ability to learn the coordinates from the logs without having to log in at all. (Premium or not). On non-subscriber-only caches, if you aren't logged in, you can't see the coords, but you can read the logs. But, this is an issue regardless since anyone who posts a log and attaches a waypoint to it on a non-subscriber cache can already have that info read -- frequently used to post update coords by finders who disagree from the owner's posted values. Link to comment
+Markwell Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 What about those insta-notify messages that say "So and So published XWZ cache". I think Jeremy's talking about making sure that MO caches at the time of publication don't spew the coordinates to Insta-notify, but then again, Insta-notify is a MO feature, right? Link to comment
+Prime Suspect Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 What about those insta-notify messages that say "So and So published XWZ cache". I think Jeremy's talking about making sure that MO caches at the time of publication don't spew the coordinates to Insta-notify, but then again, Insta-notify is a MO feature, right? And Publish logs also show up in the Recent Log History list. Link to comment
Jeremy Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 The reviewers have had a similar discussion. I think the "fix" may be to have a log entry that occurs when the listing is published - perhaps the publish log itself. That way for historical purposes you can see the first publish log to see the original coordinates. The only concern I have at this point is to make sure that if the cache is listed as subscriber-only that the log entry for publishing the listing isn't visible by non premium members. This is why the feature hasn't been implemented yet. But thanks for the request! I'll make sure I bump the priority of this feature. Aren't subscriber-only caches completely unreadable by non-premium members? I don't think you can see anything about these caches if you aren't a premium member -- writeup, coords, logs, etc. Direct log entry links are not completely unreadable. Link to comment
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