Fledermaus Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 (edited) 1. How many of you actually take the time to ask permission before placing a cache into a city, county, state or federal park or any other public lands such as DNR, BLM and etc.? 2. Do you just take it foregranted that because it's public land and you pay taxes that you can do anything you want on public land? Apparently, GC thinks that asking permission is a very important issue! 3. Did you know that many of the parks governed by cities, counties and states have what are called "Use Permits", which in many cases involves fees appropriate to the activity planned? If you know all of this and still say that "I don't care" or see no need to ask permission, then how come the GC Guidelines specify the importance of have permission of the land owner and/or manager before placing a cache? See the following: GC Guideline: "By submitting a cache listing, you assure us that you have adequate permission to hide your cache in the selected location." I personally took this guideline to heart when I went to my local city parks & recreation department and acquired a permit for the paulty some of $10.00 a year. This allows me to place caches into any of my city's parks, and that's a lot of caches. If my city really wanted to, if given justification, they could remove all of those caches for which there are no permits on file and even charge their owners with a fine. So now you are probably wondering why am I making a "big deal" about this subject? Well, it's because it's important to respect the public lands, for they are there for all of us, not just geocachers. Also, read the following example that I hope never gets repeated. A True Story: In my area several years, there was a cache placed within a local state park and it was there for several months. The Park Ranger became aware of the geocaching hobby, after hearing about it from another Park Ranger and his superiors. He checked out the GC website and discovered a cache was in his park and he took a very strong action and confiscated it. It even got into the local forums and the sparks were flying! A few years passed and I come along and apparently ask the very same Park Ranger/Manager for permission to place a cache. After setting up an appointment and a latter discussion with him and his assistants, for about 30 minutes or more, I was able to convince him to allow a new cache in the park, and with permission from his superiors, he waived the Use Permit fee of $25. Every year I have to renew my written "contract" with him and there are still no fees to be paid. The bottom line is, I busted my butt to do the right thing and each and every cacher out there should be doing that as well. I just hate those that have the attitude that "I pay takes an I can do anything I want on public land". NOT SO!!! Ask and yee shall receive, you hope! Don't ask and you might get burned! /\/oo\/\ Edited April 24, 2006 by Fledermaus Quote Link to comment
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