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The Blorenges

+The Blorenges

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My shiney, conventional, circular 3-dimensional two-pence worth...

 

I guess that the original concept for a geocoin was to produce an interesting token that would travel around from cache to cache, as a rather "posh" version of a TB, and give the finder a new icon as a bonus. All the geocoins seem to serve this purpose very well. Then folks started to collect the coins for their own private collections, to enjoy their shininess and their "artistic merits", rather than simply send them out to survive in the wider world of Tupperware boxes. So now some folks are judging these coins by different standards...

 

As a non-collector, just an interested-observer, these "London coins" seem fine to me. I've ordered a Phone Box and, as soon as I've had a quick fondle, it'll be getting a "piercing" and going out to fend for itself. (A bit like my teenaged offspring, come to think of it :rolleyes::( )

MrsB

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Teasel

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If someone is making money, SO WHAT? get off off your own backsides and make some yourselves instead of slating other people.

Ummm, I really don't think people are jealous that it's someone else making the money, not them! Many people are unhappy about the gradual commercialisation of geocaching, and this coin certainly seems to be a good example of that.

 

The last thing I'd like to see is any more people "getting off their backsides" and making money out of geocaching. It was bad enough when it was just Groundspeak Inc. (and at least they have the excuse of having expensive servers to run) without a rash of geocaching cottage industries popping up all over the place.

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Kitty Hawk

+Kitty Hawk

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I am unsure, but Jacko's "making money out of caching" comment may be directed at me - I am not concerned about profit, just curious. The amounts involved aren't worth the bother in my book, otherwise the "Trigpointing" coin would have been issued already, together with maybe coins for historic periods of England - the Yanks would lap that up. What about castles? Hero's (Robin Hood, King Arthur, Nelson) then there's notables (Shakespeare, Wordsworth etc) the Isle of Wight coin etc etc. In fact, if you can get an 'Observers Book of ..., then there is a series of coins to be made.

 

I was just curious, the proliferation of coins made it clear there was a profit to be made, I wondered how much, that's all. It's a bit of a shame really becuase quality will diminish as for some the sums do add up and there will be inevitably a reduction in quality to gain more profit. Hopefully Groundspeak will crackdown on it at some point.

 

I would like to echo Alibags & Teasels comments and Jacko's comment about people who belittle other peoples efforts although this could be largely down to the OP being non UK based.

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Jacko65

+Jacko65

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I am unsure, but Jacko's "making money out of caching" comment may be directed at me - I am not concerned about profit, just curious. The amounts involved aren't worth the bother in my book, otherwise the "Trigpointing" coin would have been issued already, together with maybe coins for historic periods of England - the Yanks would lap that up. What about castles? Hero's (Robin Hood, King Arthur, Nelson) then there's notables (Shakespeare, Wordsworth etc) the Isle of Wight coin etc etc. In fact, if you can get an 'Observers Book of ..., then there is a series of coins to be made.

 

I was just curious, the proliferation of coins made it clear there was a profit to be made, I wondered how much, that's all. It's a bit of a shame really becuase quality will diminish as for some the sums do add up and there will be inevitably a reduction in quality to gain more profit. Hopefully Groundspeak will crackdown on it at some point.

 

I would like to echo Alibags & Teasels comments and Jacko's comment about people who belittle other peoples efforts although this could be largely down to the OP being non UK based.

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Jacko65

+Jacko65

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:rolleyes: Nothing Personal directed at anybody in my post or meant.

What I meant to say was "If someone is making a little money out of his or her hobby which is also giving enjoyment to other people in the same hobby, then good luck to them!" Why criticise their efforts. If you think you can do better, then just go out and do it. I am glad that someone bothers to make my hobby more enjoyable for me and mine as I have neither the time or inclination to get involved in what it takes to mint and market geo coins. I will continue to buy them even when other people find them tacky and distasteful. Not every body has the same tastes.

No offence meant to anybody.

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Jacko65

I am unsure, but Jacko's "making money out of caching" comment may be directed at me - I am not concerned about profit, just curious. The amounts involved aren't worth the bother in my book, otherwise the "Trigpointing" coin would have been issued already, together with maybe coins for historic periods of England - the Yanks would lap that up. What about castles? Hero's (Robin Hood, King Arthur, Nelson) then there's notables (Shakespeare, Wordsworth etc) the Isle of Wight coin etc etc. In fact, if you can get an 'Observers Book of ..., then there is a series of coins to be made.

 

I was just curious, the proliferation of coins made it clear there was a profit to be made, I wondered how much, that's all. It's a bit of a shame really becuase quality will diminish as for some the sums do add up and there will be inevitably a reduction in quality to gain more profit. Hopefully Groundspeak will crackdown on it at some point.

 

I would like to echo Alibags & Teasels comments and Jacko's comment about people who belittle other peoples efforts although this could be largely down to the OP being non UK based.

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Kitty Hawk

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:unsure: Nothing Personal directed at anybody in my post or meant.

What I meant to say was "If someone is making a little money out of his or her hobby which is also giving enjoyment to other people in the same hobby, then good luck to them!" Why criticise their efforts. If you think you can do better, then just go out and do it. I am glad that someone bothers to make my hobby more enjoyable for me and mine as I have neither the time or inclination to get involved in what it takes to mint and market geo coins. I will continue to buy them even when other people find them tacky and distasteful. Not every body has the same tastes.

No offence meant to anybody.

Regards

Jacko65

I am unsure, but Jacko's "making money out of caching" comment may be directed at me - I am not concerned about profit, just curious. The amounts involved aren't worth the bother in my book, otherwise the "Trigpointing" coin would have been issued already, together with maybe coins for historic periods of England - the Yanks would lap that up. What about castles? Hero's (Robin Hood, King Arthur, Nelson) then there's notables (Shakespeare, Wordsworth etc) the Isle of Wight coin etc etc. In fact, if you can get an 'Observers Book of ..., then there is a series of coins to be made.

 

I was just curious, the proliferation of coins made it clear there was a profit to be made, I wondered how much, that's all. It's a bit of a shame really becuase quality will diminish as for some the sums do add up and there will be inevitably a reduction in quality to gain more profit. Hopefully Groundspeak will crackdown on it at some point.

 

I would like to echo Alibags & Teasels comments and Jacko's comment about people who belittle other peoples efforts although this could be largely down to the OP being non UK based.

Wasn't offended :rolleyes: I think we agree with each other.

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freespirit1402

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I am unsure, but Jacko's "making money out of caching" comment may be directed at me - I am not concerned about profit, just curious. The amounts involved aren't worth the bother in my book, otherwise the "Trigpointing" coin would have been issued already, together with maybe coins for historic periods of England - the Yanks would lap that up. What about castles? Hero's (Robin Hood, King Arthur, Nelson) then there's notables (Shakespeare, Wordsworth etc) the Isle of Wight coin etc etc. In fact, if you can get an 'Observers Book of ..., then there is a series of coins to be made.

i think theres already a shakespeare coin on ebay...and yes its vile. zr7 and i bought two phoneboxes though, not all that bothered if it represents london or not as im not too bothered one way or the other about the place...i just like the phonebox :P

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siloans

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I think accusing me of 'sour grapes' is unfair. All I'm saying is that there was a great opportunity here for a beautiful coin to be made which celebrated the history, dignity and energy of London. Instead we got a piece of tat, just so the seller could be first past the post and make a lot of money. Now it's made, no other design can be called the "London Geocoin".

I think it's a shame, that's all.

 

Accusing you of sour grapes in your opinion may be unfair, now with that thought, think about that you are not accusing the OP, but are saying that his work is TAT, now that is more than unfair!! :mad:

Who is there to discern on whom should be the first past the post to mint a specific coin? I don't believe there is anyone? Unless YOU are applying for the job of being a coin policeman??

 

OK calm down.

 

The term 'sour grapes' might apply to someone who's bitter because someone else thought of a lucrative idea first. But that's not the case here. Obviously someone was bound to make a London coin as it's likely to get a lot of very lucrative interest given the popularity of geocaching in the UK, and the sales promotion of it over these USA-UK English language forums. That's not the issue.

 

It's perfectly valid and fair to say the design is awful, and reminiscent of the cheap tat they sell to tourists in London.

 

As other american geocachers have noted in other forum discussions, it's one thing to mint a tasteless Personal Geocoin, but it's another thing to produce something that purports to represent a specific region without any consensus from local cachers as to what 'image' they want to convey.

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siloans

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Londoner for 40 years would love to have used the name London geocoin and give them away via London caches now i will have to use another name Like The London geocoin doo!

shame you all have to make money it's only a hobbie

better to save up and share simon siloans aka daddy found all the London caches bar about 3

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Jan and the Percey Boys

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Londoner for 40 years would love to have used the name London geocoin and give them away via London caches now i will have to use another name Like The London geocoin doo!

shame you all have to make money it's only a hobbie

better to save up and share simon siloans aka daddy found all the London caches bar about 3

 

I understand the anger about commercial coins and profit margin but please be aware that most coins were originally signature items till Groundspeak got involved they were the equivalent of a certain teddy bear. However during last year the floodgates opened firstly to organisations and then to individual and commercial organisations, but be aware that for a coin issue of 1000 coins Groundspeak rakes in $1650 whereas one premium membership costs less than $30 -

 

As some of you know I am doing a coin Jan and the Percey Boys Coin

and the production costs are pretty scary

 

I am making 500 coins

minting costs about $2000, paying $900 to Groundspeak for tracking and icon

when you add postage and import duty I might make $300 dollars if they all sell (if I wanted to sell them all!!)

 

If I add in the time this is taking to arrange I wouldnt work for this an hour!!!

 

If I was out to make a profit there are easier ways with a lot less risk - buying at issue and selling on E Bay being much easier and that puts nothing back into the sport

 

Bob

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Teasel

+Teasel

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I might make $300 dollars if they all sell [...] If I add in the time this is taking to arrange I wouldnt work for this an hour!!!

 

So why "taint" something you enjoy by making money out of it at all? There are plenty of charities who could use that $300!

 

It does seem a shame when people who spend countless hours slaving away over a project, for the good of the wider community, then go and spoil it by claiming "just a little profit, less than I could make elsewhere, just to compensate me for lost time" :)

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Lavareef

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What next, a coin with a picture of a man in a stripey jersey and beret, with a string of onions over his bicycle ...representing Paris? A man eating paella while being gored to death by a bull.... representing Madrid?

 

These are entirely accurate snapshots of life in the region, what's the problem?!

 

:):)

 

Joke

 

I'm thinking of doing a Manchester Mossside coin, with a drive by shooting scene!

Add a nice big white WELCOME TO MOSS SIDE town sign on the other side and I'd buy 10 :(

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Sensei TSKC

+Sensei TSKC

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Ducking My Head for more blows: :laughing::laughing:

 

Here are photos . . .

 

London_Phone_box.jpg

 

London_Round1.jpg

 

The first batch of these coins went in the mail buyers in Europe and Canada this morning. They will all be in the mail by Thursday, March 30.

 

There are a few still available for purchase HERE!

I received my coin through the post today and I must say as a non-geocoin nutter - but bought one cos at the time I thought it would be nice - kinda guy I am really impressed.

 

Not only do the initial pictures NOT do it justice but neither do the photos. It's pretty cool, even if I say so myself!!!

 

Oss!

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Sensei TSKC

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I got mine and am delighted with them - especially the round one.

 

One question though - where is the activation codes for them as there was no usual paper in the package with this on?

 

To get the activation code go to www.geocoin.net

I did try www.geocoinclub.com which was no good to me! try this one now.

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