alistair_uk Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 I have just seen on the news that Police are combing the countryside for evidence relating to the recent robbery making the headlines. This got me thinking. What will happen if they come across a Geocache? Has anyone had a cache found by the “Authorities” and what was the reaction? Did tyhay think you were barking mad? Quote Link to comment
+Moote Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Opinion I think they would open the box and think that a pile of McD toys in no way represents £50,000,000 in used notes! and move on Quote Link to comment
Nediam Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Last year a travel bug motel went missing. It was in the area where police were searching for a body after animal rights activists resorted to grave robbing! It is assumed that the police found it and removed it, but the cache owner never contacted them (as far as I know). Quote Link to comment
+The Wombles Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 .......Has anyone had a cache found by the “Authorities” and what was the reaction? The Police wanted our Heathrow Bug Hotel moved when they became aware of it. We archived it. Quote Link to comment
+Cryptik Souls Crew Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 .......Has anyone had a cache found by the “Authorities” and what was the reaction? The Police wanted our Heathrow Bug Hotel moved when they became aware of it. We archived it. I remember it well, their reaction was quite amusing in hindsight. Police man "You have to admit your car does look quite suspicious with all those wires" Me "All what wires?" Police man (pointing to gps aerial lead) "Erm, that one" Quote Link to comment
+Mr Hedgehog Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Opinion I think they would open the box and think that a pile of McD toys in no way represents £50,000,000 in used notes! and move on A box big enough to get £50,000,000 would take some hiding. Suspicious looking pile of tree trunks, maybe Quote Link to comment
+Hillhappy1 Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I have just seen on the news that Police are combing the countryside for evidence relating to the recent robbery making the headlines. This got me thinking. What will happen if they come across a Geocache? Has anyone had a cache found by the “Authorities” and what was the reaction? Did tyhay think you were barking mad? What would happen if the opposite occurred and a Geocacher found a box with 50,000,000 in it? Would he look like this That's a lot of Ammo boxes. Quote Link to comment
+The Forester Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 The possibility that a cache might fall into the hands of benign muggles such as the rozzers is the reason for the rule which requires cache creators to place the name of the cache on or in the cachebox. It helps them to easily find the cachepage on the internet and contact the 'owner'. All reasonable cachers do this quite normally. I've only known of one unressonable cache creator who reacted most unpleasantly when I discreetly pointed out that no less than three of that person's caches had false, misleading or bogus cache names on the box and/or logbook. Reasonable cache-owners are invariably glad to have such a constructive piece of advice and are grateful for anyone who helps by suggesting that the true name of the cache be included in the cache because it is the responsible thing to do. Quote Link to comment
+wizard1974uk Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 The possibility that a cache might fall into the hands of benign muggles such as the rozzers is the reason for the rule which requires cache creators to place the name of the cache on or in the cachebox. It helps them to easily find the cachepage on the internet and contact the 'owner'. All reasonable cachers do this quite normally. I've only known of one unressonable cache creator who reacted most unpleasantly when I discreetly pointed out that no less than three of that person's caches had false, misleading or bogus cache names on the box and/or logbook. Reasonable cache-owners are invariably glad to have such a constructive piece of advice and are grateful for anyone who helps by suggesting that the true name of the cache be included in the cache because it is the responsible thing to do. That's the unfortunate thing with some people, they always take a bit of advice as a personal attack and go on the defensive. Quote Link to comment
The Royles Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 What would happen if the opposite occurred and a Geocacher found a box with 50,000,000 in it? He would struggle to trade up or even Quote Link to comment
+Kryten Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I believe that a cache round here was found wrapped in "Tayside Police" incident tape with a "please remove" message stuck to it. The neighbourhood watch strikes again. Quote Link to comment
+Firth of Forth Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 All reasonable cachers do this quite normally. I've only known of one unressonable cache creator who reacted most unpleasantly when I discreetly pointed out that no less than three of that person's caches had false, misleading or bogus cache names on the box and/or logbook. Reasonable cache-owners are invariably glad to have such a constructive piece of advice and are grateful for anyone who helps by suggesting that the true name of the cache be included in the cache because it is the responsible thing to do. Somehow, each time this 'story' gets told (as it has done repeatedly over several years - just check out The Forester's previous posts on this forum), it grows. The Forester likes to have a dig at one particular cacher from time to time. Time to give it a rest. In fact, I come across very few caches that have the name written on either the box or the logbook. Probably a good idea, but not essential. Quote Link to comment
markandlynn Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Until one of our caches got muggled i never put home contact details in caches. However the people who muggled it had to create an account, find our caching name and then email us. A bit unfair on them really so ever since we always put email contact details in our caches. I believe a few in the USA have been blown up by the bomb squad though Quote Link to comment
+Kryten Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 However the people who muggled it had to create an account, find our caching name and then email us. I think someone who goes to that level of effort has left muggledom behind and joined the party. Quote Link to comment
+allieballie Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I believe that a cache round here was found wrapped in "Tayside Police" incident tape with a "please remove" message stuck to it. The neighbourhood watch strikes again. Yes, that was one of mine, a micro hidden about a metre from the roadside. It had been found about four or times in the space of the month or so that it had been active before a cacher discovered it covered in police tape with a note inside from the boys in blue. It said something like "Locals have been complaining about people wandering about in the woods..." and politely asking for the cache to be removed. I did remove it, but it raised some intruiging issues such as: Why were people wandering in the woods when it was a roadside cache? Did the locals watch this area 24/7 because 4/5 visitors in over 4 weeks is not a noticeable amount of human traffic? And how did they manage to observe this in the first place, given that the nearest houses were quite a distance from the cache, and partially hidden from view. Anyway, well done on the police for finding it - I wonder how long they searched for? The locals must have been using binoculars to pinpoint the exact rock it was hidden in! Quote Link to comment
+purple_pineapple Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Anyway, well done on the police for finding it - I wonder how long they searched for? The locals must have been using binoculars to pinpoint the exact rock it was hidden in! Maybe they 'cheated' and used the hint! Quote Link to comment
+Haggis Hunter Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 The possibility that a cache might fall into the hands of benign muggles such as the rozzers is the reason for the rule which requires cache creators to place the name of the cache on or in the cachebox. It helps them to easily find the cachepage on the internet and contact the 'owner'. I'm sorry I have had a search, but I can't find where the RULES are listed, I found the GUIDELINES which have a different meaning, well it does in my dictionary? I also can't find where it says that the name of the cache MUST be in the cache box. Perhaps you could enlighten me and the rest of the forum of it's location within GC.com? I have however found where it says that a distant cache should have the name of the person that is looking after it on the cache page, now I can think of a person that hasn't met that guideline, I wonder who it could be??? Quote Link to comment
+Jonovich Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 "Locals have been complaining about people wandering about in the woods..." Since when was it an offence to wander about woods? Someone should tell the ramblers association - they love this sort of thing. J Quote Link to comment
+kbootb Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I have created a gmail account specifically for putting into cache details. So if the cache gets muggled and they do something nasty with that e-mail address it doesn't affect my real addresses. It should also provide a very quick alert if someone finds the cache and wants to contact me as I don't expect to receive any other mail into that account and it won't get lost in the hundreds of other mails I get each day. So far, over a year on and I haven't received a single real e-mail but it gets about 15 spams a month. Quote Link to comment
+Geo-Kate Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 (edited) The possibility that a cache might fall into the hands of benign muggles such as the rozzers is the reason for the rule which requires cache creators to place the name of the cache on or in the cachebox. It helps them to easily find the cachepage on the internet and contact the 'owner'. I'm sorry I have had a search, but I can't find where the RULES are listed, I found the GUIDELINES which have a different meaning, well it does in my dictionary? I also can't find where it says that the name of the cache MUST be in the cache box. Perhaps you could enlighten me and the rest of the forum of it's location within GC.com? I have however found where it says that a distant cache should have the name of the person that is looking after it on the cache page, now I can think of a person that hasn't met that guideline, I wonder who it could be??? In an attempt to shed a little light here, I got an e-mail from geocacheuk through the GC website when I placed a cache a while ago. It contained a link within GAGB.org.uk which itself listed some guidlines. The first guideline was; "Ensure the cache container is clearly marked, stating that the content is harmless and giving the placers e-mail address or other contact method (eg GAGB contact phone number)" I am not familiar with scripting so i can't post a proper link, but the location is http://www.gagb.org.uk/guidelines/guidelines.php if you want copy and paste it into your URL bar. GK EDIT: the link works automatically. I'm impressed! Edited February 27, 2006 by Geo-Kate Quote Link to comment
+Haggis Hunter Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 In an attempt to shed a little light here, I got an e-mail from geocacheuk through the GC website when I placed a cache a while ago. It contained a link within GAGB.org.uk which itself listed some guidlines. The first guideline was; "Ensure the cache container is clearly marked, stating that the content is harmless and giving the placers e-mail address or other contact method (eg GAGB contact phone number)" I am not familiar with scripting so i can't post a proper link, but the location is http://www.gagb.org.uk/guidelines/guidelines.php if you want copy and paste it into your URL bar. GK EDIT: the link works automatically. I'm impressed! Thanks for the link, I am actually aware of the GAGB guidelines, but if I am not mistaken the approvers can only ask you to abide by these, unless it is a request from the landowners for a certain guideline to be upheld. The Foresters point (which has been made on several occassions about the same person), has always clearly stated GC.coms rules. It is this that I wish to be enlightened on. As I do not believe that in HIS context that it exists, well not at the moment anyway or in the last 2 years for that matter. I am quite certain that The Forester certainly does not refer to the GAGB guidelines otherwise he would not condone the use of plastic bags for wrapping caches in. As this is against the GAGB guidelines, but not GC.coms. He has in the past gave a very strong argument for there usage for hiding caches in. Suffice to say, I feel as though this may be starting into a thread drift, and we wouldn't want that. Quote Link to comment
+Kryten Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 To return to the OP "I have just seen on the news that Police are combing the countryside for evidence". There was a cache that ended up inside the "ring of steel" at last years G8 summit and remained unfound by the CIA, MI5, Police, SAS and whoever else supposedly searched the area before allowing the various leaders to frollick. Quote Link to comment
+scaw Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 (edited) recently on a trip to Florida we had a visit from the sheriff and security all i could say was "they carry guns" We went to do a cache near a mall, parked up jumped out the car gps in hand well after going into some bushes and hearing rustling the wuss in me appeared and i retreat back to the car leaving hubby hunting about. Next thing flashing lights and i have security and the sheriff with me. Turns out 5 days before a woman had gone missing from the mall Link Anyway i explaine what we were doing and after a radio coversation the guy said ah geocaching we know about this cache. so off we retreat with a DNF and me still saying "they carry guns" Edited February 27, 2006 by scaw Quote Link to comment
+Eco-sheep Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 To return to the OP "I have just seen on the news that Police are combing the countryside for evidence". There was a cache that ended up inside the "ring of steel" at last years G8 summit and remained unfound by the CIA, MI5, Police, SAS and whoever else supposedly searched the area before allowing the various leaders to frollick. Wow, how big was that cache, and how close to the summit venue? Could it conceivably have been a threat? Well done to whoever placed that one. Quote Link to comment
+Alibags Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 A box big enough to get £50,000,000 would take some hiding. Suspicious looking pile of tree trunks, maybe 50 million quid? I know nuffing!! Quote Link to comment
Lactodorum Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I would ask those who would seek to derail this thread to back off. You know who you are and I know who you are. To those who don't know , you don't need to , but I know you'll start worrying so suffice it to say " Move along please, there's nothing to see here......." Quote Link to comment
+Alibags Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Please stop hitting me with your truncheon Officer Lactodorum, Sir! One of my caches is overlooked by CCTV cameras. I made the effort of going into the local police station and telling them all about geocaching and the fact that there was a cache at that location. I also gave them my contact details in case any geocache related incidents should pop up locally. They were more amused than anything else? Quote Link to comment
+Team Clova Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 To return to the OP "I have just seen on the news that Police are combing the countryside for evidence". There was a cache that ended up inside the "ring of steel" at last years G8 summit and remained unfound by the CIA, MI5, Police, SAS and whoever else supposedly searched the area before allowing the various leaders to frollick. Wow, how big was that cache, and how close to the summit venue? Could it conceivably have been a threat? Well done to whoever placed that one. Think that would be THIS cache! Was a regular sized tupperware box, and was close enough to the venue, that it should have been found! What is it with geocachers? - 14 people have found it since the "professionals" searched the area and found nothing! There was a rumor going round Perthshire that George Bush was cycling to the cache when he hit the policeman. - Still no DNF log though??? Oh! - and have you heard the music on the page? Did Perth Pathfinders forsee the event or something?? Quote Link to comment
+Woody's Wanderers Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I wasn't expecting music and with speakers turned full up from 'WoW' it made me jump! Maybe they didn't see anything suspicious in that 'pile of twigs all aligned north/south?' Perhaps they should start employing cachers to assist? Quote Link to comment
Lactodorum Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 (edited) Sorry Ali, it wasn't aimed at you It was just bad timing that placed your note directly ahead of mine. Many apologies if it came across that way. Please stop hitting me with your truncheon Officer Lactodorum, Sir! One of my caches is overlooked by CCTV cameras. I made the effort of going into the local police station and telling them all about geocaching and the fact that there was a cache at that location. I also gave them my contact details in case any geocache related incidents should pop up locally. They were more amused than anything else? Edited February 27, 2006 by Lactodorum Quote Link to comment
alistair_uk Posted February 27, 2006 Author Share Posted February 27, 2006 To those who don't know , you don't need to , but I know you'll start worrying so suffice it to say " Move along please, there's nothing to see here......." I am please that is cleared up then I will just move along... Quote Link to comment
+Hillhappy1 Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 A box big enough to get £50,000,000 would take some hiding. Suspicious looking pile of tree trunks, maybe 50 million quid? I know nuffing!! This wood take some LOGGING Quote Link to comment
+wizard1974uk Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 A box big enough to get £50,000,000 would take some hiding. Suspicious looking pile of tree trunks, maybe 50 million quid? I know nuffing!! This wood take some LOGGING Or BARKING mad. Quote Link to comment
The Royles Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Someone tell special branch Quote Link to comment
+Alibags Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Sorry Ali, it wasn't aimed at you It was just bad timing that placed your note directly ahead of mine. Many apologies if it came across that way. Nah, don't worry Lacto, I was just being droll. Attempting to, anyhow! I know what you were really referring to! Quote Link to comment
+Messe Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 (edited) 50 million quid? I know nuffing! .ahahaa,step this way Alibags...you`ve recycled it! Edited February 28, 2006 by Messe Quote Link to comment
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