+Geo-Kate Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 (edited) Hello, I was wondering if any of you out there has got the above mapping on their garmin GPSrs... I have bought it (it's not cheap) and downloaded it onto my GPSmap 60C but footpaths are not shown on the unit. I have referenced it to the maps on the compter in mapsource, and the paths are there, but they do not appear on my device. Strangely enough though, if you put the cursor where a path should be, the word 'path' appears on the screen. So is it there but just invisible? Detail is set to most, and declutter is not on. I can't imagine Garmin have made mapping software like this that does not show paths on their devices, so I was wondering if anybody else has encountered this... Any feedback would be much appreciated. Thanks GK Edited February 23, 2006 by Geo-Kate Quote Link to comment
+Moote Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 (edited) Information I have not used this product; but have you tried altering the settings on your GPS? Setting the maps to show the most detail Main Menu > Setup > Map First Icon across the top > 3 dropdown list down > Detail; set this to Most Edited February 23, 2006 by Moote Quote Link to comment
+Geo-Kate Posted February 23, 2006 Author Share Posted February 23, 2006 Information I have not used this product; but have you tried altering the settings on your GPS? Setting the maps to show the most detail Main Menu > Setup > Map First Icon across the top > 3 dropdown list down > Detail; set this to Most As mentioned im my first post, detail is set to most and declutter is not on. I have been through every concievable option with no luck. I am so frustrated by this! Quote Link to comment
+Moote Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Information If the packaging does not inform you that the maps will not show full detail, then I think you might have cause to complain and secure a refund, as the goods are not suitable for the purpose sold. If you do it might be worth making a copy of the DVD just in case Quote Link to comment
+Moote Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Consumer Protection Info Quote Link to comment
+wildlifewriter Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 (edited) I can't imagine Garmin have made mapping software like this that does not show paths on their devices, so I was wondering if anybody else has encountered this... It may be a compatibility issue, rather than a problem with the new mapping. If so, it's likely that there's a firmware revision already available for your 60C, which will cure this. You should contact Garmin UK on 01794-519944 or 0870-8501242 -Wlw [edited for alternate number] Edited February 23, 2006 by wildlifewriter Quote Link to comment
+stora Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Taken from wiggle On Monochrome units resolution will be less than colour units. Extended resolution available in the GPS 60 Cx & CSx. (Units this will not be compatible with are GPS 100 Series & panel mount aviation units). hope this helps Quote Link to comment
+Geo-Kate Posted February 24, 2006 Author Share Posted February 24, 2006 Taken from wiggle On Monochrome units resolution will be less than colour units. Extended resolution available in the GPS 60 Cx & CSx. (Units this will not be compatible with are GPS 100 Series & panel mount aviation units). hope this helps Thanks for your help, my unit is 256 colour, so should have full detail from map. I will be contacting Garmin today to try to get this resolved. I hope i'm doing something stupid! I will keep you posted with the outcome. Thanks again GK Quote Link to comment
+Geo-Kate Posted February 24, 2006 Author Share Posted February 24, 2006 (edited) Im not 100% impressed with it. Garmin are aware that footpaths do not appear on the screen of the devices, but are apparently working on a firmware update that will enable this. They hope it may be soon, but can't give any date. I just can't understand how a big company like Garmin can release software they know doesn't work properly, relying on users to wait and download a patch at a later date. Oh well, I'll keep you posted as and when they get their act together. Don't hold your breath! Edited February 24, 2006 by Geo-Kate Quote Link to comment
+Pharisee Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Last weekend I had chance to do a direct comparison between a GPS60CSx with Garmin Topo maps loaded and my old Legend with MapSource maps loaded. There was nothing in it as far as roads go and OK, the Topo maps are a bit 'light' on footpath information but where the difference really showed up was in the location of rivers. One of the caches we did was on a river bank and we had a choice of which side to walk the last 1/4 of a mile or so. The map on my Legend showed it on one side of the river and normally, I would have taken that path but the Topo maps showed it on the other and that was the path we followed... straight to the cache which saved me an extra 1/2 mile walk. In my opinion, the Topo maps are worth the money purely because of the accuracy of rivers, canals and such like stuff. Something that has always been very poor on 'ordinary' MapSource products. Quote Link to comment
+Geoffnco Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 (edited) Hello, I was wondering if any of you out there has got the above mapping on their garmin GPSrs... I have bought it (it's not cheap) and downloaded it onto my GPSmap 60C but footpaths are not shown on the unit. I have referenced it to the maps on the compter in mapsource, and the paths are there, but they do not appear on my device. Strangely enough though, if you put the cursor where a path should be, the word 'path' appears on the screen. So is it there but just invisible? Detail is set to most, and declutter is not on. I can't imagine Garmin have made mapping software like this that does not show paths on their devices, so I was wondering if anybody else has encountered this... Any feedback would be much appreciated. Thanks GK Just wanted to ask if zooming in had any affect on showing the paths? Geoff Edited February 24, 2006 by Geoff & Bonnie Quote Link to comment
+Geo-Kate Posted February 24, 2006 Author Share Posted February 24, 2006 (edited) Hello, I was wondering if any of you out there has got the above mapping on their garmin GPSrs... I have bought it (it's not cheap) and downloaded it onto my GPSmap 60C but footpaths are not shown on the unit. I have referenced it to the maps on the compter in mapsource, and the paths are there, but they do not appear on my device. Strangely enough though, if you put the cursor where a path should be, the word 'path' appears on the screen. So is it there but just invisible? Detail is set to most, and declutter is not on. I can't imagine Garmin have made mapping software like this that does not show paths on their devices, so I was wondering if anybody else has encountered this... Any feedback would be much appreciated. Thanks GK Just wanted to ask if zooming in had any affect on showing the paths? Geoff No, I have tried all zoom levels, well into the 'overzoom' where you are zoomed in too far. It makes no difference. I just have to wait until garmin get their act together and get the update out which will let the paths become visible on the devices! Edited February 24, 2006 by Geo-Kate Quote Link to comment
+Nellies Knackers Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 I just can't understand how a big company like Garmin can release software they know doesn't work properly, relying on users to wait and download a patch at a later date. So microsoft isn't a big company then? Quote Link to comment
+Geo-Kate Posted February 24, 2006 Author Share Posted February 24, 2006 I just can't understand how a big company like Garmin can release software they know doesn't work properly, relying on users to wait and download a patch at a later date. So microsoft isn't a big company then? Not quite understanding the relevance.... Quote Link to comment
+Hi-Tek Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Last weekend I had chance to do a direct comparison between a GPS60CSx with Garmin Topo maps loaded and my old Legend with MapSource maps loaded. There was nothing in it as far as roads go and OK, the Topo maps are a bit 'light' on footpath information but where the difference really showed up was in the location of rivers. One of the caches we did was on a river bank and we had a choice of which side to walk the last 1/4 of a mile or so. The map on my Legend showed it on one side of the river and normally, I would have taken that path but the Topo maps showed it on the other and that was the path we followed... straight to the cache which saved me an extra 1/2 mile walk. In my opinion, the Topo maps are worth the money purely because of the accuracy of rivers, canals and such like stuff. Something that has always been very poor on 'ordinary' MapSource products. Fact ... I concur with the accuracy as I was out with Pharisee at the time. Opinion ... As for Pharisee's 'worth the money' statement - I have to add that as I don't travel any where near as far as he does nor do I have the caching experience that he has I am not in a position to comment as to its 'value' for others but for me I'd give it a miss - too expensive. Quote Link to comment
+Pharisee Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Last weekend I had chance to do a direct comparison between a GPS60CSx with Garmin Topo maps loaded and my old Legend with MapSource maps loaded. There was nothing in it as far as roads go and OK, the Topo maps are a bit 'light' on footpath information but where the difference really showed up was in the location of rivers. One of the caches we did was on a river bank and we had a choice of which side to walk the last 1/4 of a mile or so. The map on my Legend showed it on one side of the river and normally, I would have taken that path but the Topo maps showed it on the other and that was the path we followed... straight to the cache which saved me an extra 1/2 mile walk. In my opinion, the Topo maps are worth the money purely because of the accuracy of rivers, canals and such like stuff. Something that has always been very poor on 'ordinary' MapSource products. Fact ... I concur with the accuracy as I was out with Pharisee at the time. Opinion ... As for Pharisee's 'worth the money' statement - I have to add that as I don't travel any where near as far as he does nor do I have the caching experience that he has I am not in a position to comment as to its 'value' for others but for me I'd give it a miss - too expensive. Just clarify my 'worth the money' statement..... If I were to buy a new GPSr that could make use of the routing facilty (GPS60CSx for instance) and had to buy new mapping software to go with it then I'd probably buy the Topo package. If, however, I already had suitable routing software like City Select, I wouldn't go out and buy the Topo software as well Quote Link to comment
+Moote Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Opinion The quality of the maps in no way matches the quality of OS 1:25000 digital explorer mapping. I think I will stay with my 1:25000 mapping of the whole UK. Quote Link to comment
+Nellies Knackers Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 I thought you could only get MM 1:25k mapping for national park areas,where do you get the rest from then? Quote Link to comment
gekocacher Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Mem Map sell a product called selections where you can customise maps to your own spec within a area of 2,500sq hectare. Equiv of Lakes Nat Prk nearly. You can select upto a maximum of 3 seperate areas. Avail here Quote Link to comment
+The Wombles Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Garmin have released software version 2.60 for the 60CSx which specifically mentions a patch for footpaths on GB Topo. I've loaded it and was able to find a path on mine, although it certainly doesn't list them all around here. Quote Link to comment
+Geo-Kate Posted March 4, 2006 Author Share Posted March 4, 2006 Garmin have released software version 2.60 for the 60CSx which specifically mentions a patch for footpaths on GB Topo. I've loaded it and was able to find a path on mine, although it certainly doesn't list them all around here. I saw that update on the Garmin site. There is a beta software version for the 60c I am running now. It shows maybe half of the footpaths in black, but the other half in white. Quite randomly by the looks of it. A white path on a pale yellow background is virtually impossible to see! Garmin are aware and the proper update was supposed to be out by this weekend. It isn't. Oh, on a related matter, since installing Topo GB (or the update) my address search does not work anymore. Is yours still working, Wombles? GK Quote Link to comment
+The Wombles Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Oh, on a related matter, since installing Topo GB (or the update) my address search does not work anymore. Is yours still working, Wombles? GK Kate, yes the address facility works on my Topo / s/w2.60 The paths I've found have been coloured green although the paths displayed are a very small % of the total shown on my Explorer maps. I also concur with Pharisee/Hi-Tek's comments about the increased accuracy and detail of Topo - very good. Not perfect, but very good. Quote Link to comment
+Geo-Kate Posted March 6, 2006 Author Share Posted March 6, 2006 Oh, on a related matter, since installing Topo GB (or the update) my address search does not work anymore. Is yours still working, Wombles? GK Kate, yes the address facility works on my Topo / s/w2.60 The paths I've found have been coloured green although the paths displayed are a very small % of the total shown on my Explorer maps. I also concur with Pharisee/Hi-Tek's comments about the increased accuracy and detail of Topo - very good. Not perfect, but very good. OK, have installed the latest beta software for my map60c and I can now see footpaths! Some are black, some are green. Some seem to start and stop randomly, and some, like some cycle lanes I know, appear in the midddle of nowhere and only last a few feet! Address search function still not working, it only says, 'No match found' in the city input feild, almost as though it has no database to reference to. I am very impressed with the detail on the maps, the flipside of this is that the maps take MUCH longer to render on screen now Quote Link to comment
+It's Spitting! Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 OK, have installed the latest beta software for my map60c and I can now see footpaths! Some are black, some are green. Some seem to start and stop randomly, and some, like some cycle lanes I know, appear in the midddle of nowhere and only last a few feet! Hi Geo-Kate, I've just received the following email from Garmin. Is this the same firmware update? Garmin is pleased to announce that beta software is available for the GPSMAP 60CS. Changes made from version 4.05 to 4.06: * Adds drawing of dark green paths in Topo Great Britain maps. * Improves appearance of certain map labels. * Properly preserves geocache symbols as assigned in previous software versions. * Sounds anchor drag alarm until reset by the user rather than sounding just a single tone. * Shows proper units when reviewing depth contours on the map page. Quote Link to comment
+Geo-Kate Posted March 7, 2006 Author Share Posted March 7, 2006 OK, have installed the latest beta software for my map60c and I can now see footpaths! Some are black, some are green. Some seem to start and stop randomly, and some, like some cycle lanes I know, appear in the midddle of nowhere and only last a few feet! Hi Geo-Kate, I've just received the following email from Garmin. Is this the same firmware update? Garmin is pleased to announce that beta software is available for the GPSMAP 60CS. Changes made from version 4.05 to 4.06: * Adds drawing of dark green paths in Topo Great Britain maps. * Improves appearance of certain map labels. * Properly preserves geocache symbols as assigned in previous software versions. * Sounds anchor drag alarm until reset by the user rather than sounding just a single tone. * Shows proper units when reviewing depth contours on the map page. Yeah, the update I refered to is the same one you have kindly informed me of, thanks. It's true, all the paths on the DVD you can see on the computer do now appear on the unit, too. I just need to call Garmin again now and find out why the address earch does not work anymore... Quote Link to comment
microfuse Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Would agree with above that the river and stream data is very accurate but the footpaths do leave something to be desired. Address lookup does not work on my 60Cx either which is a bit of a pain. Don't think post code search is supported as you would not then have to buy City Navigator! Quote Link to comment
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