+GrnXnham Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I got a coin mailer from the Geocoinclub today. A slit was cut in the end of it and the coins were removed. Anyone know what coins were stolen from me? I have gotten a few from the geocoin club lately. What came today? It shipped Feb 3. Quote Link to comment
+AtlantaGal Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I got a coin mailer from the Geocoinclub today. A slit was cut in the end of it and the coins were removed. Anyone know what coins were stolen from me? I have gotten a few from the geocoin club lately. What came today? It shipped Feb 3. Illinois or Nevada most likely. Quote Link to comment
+Camp Explorer Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 What number is above your name? 10 is Illinois 28 is Nevada Quote Link to comment
+GrnXnham Posted February 7, 2006 Author Share Posted February 7, 2006 Argh! It was Nevada-28. Do I have any recourse or am I just out of luck? Quote Link to comment
+Go JayBee Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 You might want to read this thread Package Failure It has really opened my eyes about packing methods... Quote Link to comment
+Nanni&PapK57 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 (edited) Geocoin Club and all shippers need to read this thread!!Imail all coins stapled inside of light card board IE.Cearal boxes cut into 3x8" strips folded over stapled closed with coin inside so it can't move around and cut through the mailer!!Haven't lost one yet!! Edited February 8, 2006 by Nanni&PapK57 Quote Link to comment
+GrnXnham Posted February 8, 2006 Author Share Posted February 8, 2006 Very interesting. Now that I look at the package, it looks like the Nevada coins probably just sliced their way through the end of the padded envelope. I'll bet the Nevada coins came in those sharp edged plastic sleeves like most coins do. And every other coin I have received from the Geocoinclub has just been sloshing around in the envelope as well. They don't secure the coins in the envelope at all. Quote Link to comment
+WWC-World's Worst Cacher Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 I used the white 000's and had a lot more failures. It is always the packages with just a few coins, they slide around and cut the envelop. I have tried wraping them with newspaper, it doesn't do a lot to remove the corners, but it does hold them in place. They dont just rattle around the package Quote Link to comment
+The Blind Acorn Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 I got Nevada coins today, the package was fine. The "flips" are the harder, more brittle plastic ones. Honestly I'm not sure the coin flip would have cut through the envelope as it seems like bettter quality one. I'm thinking it just got stuck in a machine at the post office. Hopefully there's some way to get your coin replaced. Quote Link to comment
kcart Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Geocoin Club and all shippers need to read this thread!!Imail all coins stapled inside of light card board IE.Cearal boxes cut into 3x8" strips folded over stapled closed with coin inside so it can't move around and cut through the mailer!!Haven't lost one yet!! Sounds like I've just been plain lucky those loose coins flopping around in the mailers have all made it to me thus far. Prolly just jinxed myself. On the coins I've mailed, I cut used bubble mailers to size, placed the coin between layers, taped the edges, and placed it inside an intact bubble mailer, then use clear sealing tape. I also put the recipient's name on the package inside the package. Seems to have worked well. Prolly just jinxed myself again. This might work for the infrequent trade, but would be a real PITA for hundreds of mailings. What Alex has done -- stapling the cellophane to a card --- seems to be a good solution. Prolly just jinxed Alex. At any rate, given recent occurences, mass coin mailers need to pay attention in the interest of customer satisfaction. ©¿©¬ Quote Link to comment
+Shop99er Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 I wrap the coins I send out in about 3/4" of bubble-wrap, and put them in a bubble mailer. Had no complaints so far. Quote Link to comment
+Mr & Mrs Loggerhead Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 That's why I'm requiring insurance on our new Loggerhead's Geocoin!!! You're not the first one that has had them stolen in the same manner. I would rather have someone mad at me for making them pay for insurance than to have them mad when I want replace their coin(s). Sorry to hear about your lose! Mr & Mrs. Loggerhead Loggerhead's Geocoin Website Quote Link to comment
+GeoBrowns Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 That's why I'm requiring insurance on our new Loggerhead's Geocoin!!! You're not the first one that has had them stolen in the same manner. I would rather have someone mad at me for making them pay for insurance than to have them mad when I want replace their coin(s). Sorry to hear about your lose! Mr & Mrs. Loggerhead Loggerhead's Geocoin Website These aren't "stolen" coins, they are loose coins sliding around in an envelope and the edges of the coins slice the ends open from being jostled around in shipment. If everyone just took the extra steps as outlined in Jaybee's Shipping Method in the pined section (although it is kinda lost up there) or in Crake's thread showing how he tested and packaged the Texas Bluebonnet coins, there wouldn't be this problem. Quote Link to comment
+FluteFace Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Being relatively new to geocoin madness, this is something of an eyeopener! But, it does explain why one person I buy from does what he does: The well padded coin (not bubble wrapped) is firmly taped to the inside of the slightly larger than usual bubble pack (I think) mailer, probably larger so he can get his hand in there. I've always thought, "Boy, what a pain it is to get this out!" But now I understand! Quote Link to comment
+tokencollector Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 That's why I'm requiring insurance on our new Loggerhead's Geocoin!!! Loggerhead's Geocoin Website There are third party insurers that are much less expensive than the USPS. For the example quoted above, insurance runs ~10% of the items value. OUCH! U-Pic is one third-party insurer, and there may be others as well. I haven't used any of the third party insurers so I don't know how good they are about paying claims. But I do not know of anybody, self included, who has sucessfully filed a claim (e.g., been reimbursed) with the USPS. I have lost a geocoin in the manner described in this thread (loose in a mailer, apparently freed itself). The seller has offered to replace it . Overall, the best insurance for getting a coin to its destination is careful packaging. As a seller of (transportation) tokens I'd rather put a bit of extra effort into making sure that my items are packed appropriately than allienate a customer. Quote Link to comment
Not So Lost Puppies Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 There are third party insurers that are much less expensive than the USPS. For the example quoted above, insurance runs ~10% of the items value. OUCH! U-Pic is one third-party insurer, and there may be others as well. I haven't used any of the third party insurers so I don't know how good they are about paying claims. But I do not know of anybody, self included, who has sucessfully filed a claim (e.g., been reimbursed) with the USPS. While it wasn't related to a coin, it was for a satellite receiver bought on e-bay, I have successfully filed an insurance claim with the USPS. Yes, it was a pain, and requires the sender to provide proof of insurance. I guess the insurance tag on the package isn't quite good enough? That could have been mine fluteface. When I send coins out (either trades or sales) I wrap the coin in a printed copy of packing list or the trade e-mail, then wrap it in plastic wrap and tape it inside the #0 bubble mailer. I've done some shaking of it and it appears to hold well enough to avoid the packing failure that has its own thread. I buy the #0 because that is what Sam's club carries (about .18 each) Quote Link to comment
+Team Sand Dollar Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Although I have not lost any coins I have noticed that the WHITE mailer do seem to come in with cuts in them. The brown mailer never have. For all coins I send, I package the coin inside cutdown mailers with a lable on it and then place thanm in a new Brown mailer with another lable. So far I have not had any problems using this method. The double mailer gives it extra pading and if it were to open the inside package still should make it to its destination. Plus even using the double mailer the cost of mailing is the same since it isn't adding much weight. Team Sand Dollar Quote Link to comment
+AtlantaGal Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Although I have not lost any coins I have noticed that the WHITE mailer do seem to come in with cuts in them. The brown mailer never have. The torn open IL mailer I received yesterday was brown. I don't think the mailer has as much to do with it as does the plastic soft case for the coin and if the coin is packed in either bubble wrap or another mailer. There is a cheaper plastic case that's brittle. This one seems to tear open the mailers like an exacto knife would. When these coins are left loose in the mailer, they tear through the paper mailer. Quote Link to comment
+GrnXnham Posted February 8, 2006 Author Share Posted February 8, 2006 I almost had another one lost today! The Oklahoma coins had been taped to a piece of cardboard. The tape had come loose and the coins were moving around in there. A hole was started at the end but it wasn't quite big enough yet for a coin to slip out. Quote Link to comment
+Camp Explorer Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 The post office had my three Illinois coins when I went to see what could be done. Give it a try. Quote Link to comment
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