+tands Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 OK, so what are the ground rules for the daily DNF record? Here are some of my ideas: 1. Have to go to the location and get within 25 feet according to the GPS. 2. If a puzzle cache, have to have some solution to the puzzle that's not a blind guess. 3. Have to log the DNF 4. If cache page states special equipment required must bring that equipment along and attempt to use. 5. Must spend 15 minutes per star of difficulty on site looking. 6. If group caching with other cachers can't include finds the other party made first as a DNF just because they found it first since this would be a valid find. 7. Multiple DNFs on the same day only if you go home or try for another find between attempts. Any other good ones to include? I think our daily record is 3 DNFs. However I'm pretty sure there's a at least a dozen local caches that we could put a true effort into and still end up with DNFs all in one day. - T of TandS Quote Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 I'm not sure if I've followed all the guidelones, but usually if I get up to three or more, my caching day is through and I find something else to do. Quote Link to comment
+sept1c_tank Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 On the 10th of October, 2004, I logged three DNFs in two different states. I also found five caches that day. Quote Link to comment
+RUFFLEDOSTRICH Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 When I first started, I had 3 or on the first day I went out... cache 1 - was a find cache 2 - DNF was the direct result of thinking that my yellow etrex would be accurate and it kept jumping around I still went on to cache 3 - the owners had disabled it that morning and I'd printed out the page the day before cache 4 - find cache 5 - find cache 6 - had an offset and I didn't understand the concept or even knew about the possibility of one. I spent two hours in the rain following white arrows that were spray-painted on the grass by the water company thinking they were part of the cache until they led me back to the first arrow. The very first cache on the next day, I had mis-punched in coords. It's a wonder I didn't quit caching then, but eventuallly I got the hang of it and avenged ALL of these caches (and adopted one). I find, though that if I DNF, I'm more likely to have a string of DNFs for the next few caches I attempt...a shot confidence thing. The most I've gotten on 1 cache is 4 in 5 days with no finds until I finally got the smiley on that one. Quote Link to comment
+tands Posted February 5, 2006 Author Share Posted February 5, 2006 Ostrich, too bad you don't live near us, we would make a great team! - T of TandS Quote Link to comment
+HaLiJuSaPa Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 (edited) Good point, it seems once I DNF I had a streak of them too. I once had a 2 DNF day in late November of 2005. But it would be hard for me to top that because the most caches I've looked for in one day is 3 (that same day, one I found). Actually, only one other time have I looked for 2 in one day, combo of lack of time and small kids who start out excited but then get tired or bored makes it hard to have multiple cache days unless they are real close and we find the first one or two right away. Edited February 5, 2006 by hairymon Quote Link to comment
+RUFFLEDOSTRICH Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 I generally cache with pierogie and smileyfacecacher. They've often found things when I can't and asked me to double check my coords when they ended up being off. That wouldn't be funny except for the fact that they're two and four years old. If I'm ever in SC, I'll e-mail you so that we can go DNFing together. Quote Link to comment
+altosaxplayer Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Our groups (the small group of us we call a team, but not really) average DNF's per trip is about 5 or 6. Don't think its all that bad. Tons more finds than DNFs. Quote Link to comment
+tands Posted February 5, 2006 Author Share Posted February 5, 2006 (edited) Isn't it cool how the discussion of 'competition' for DNFs breeds good will versus the discussion of 'competition' for finds? DNFs are the glue that bind cachers together as an inevitable universal experience. - T of TandS Edited February 5, 2006 by tands Quote Link to comment
CoyoteRed Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Isn't it cool how the discussion of 'competition' for DNFs breeds good will versus the discussion of 'competition' for finds? True that. We personally have a few caches placed just for the DNF hounds. Ya'll come on down and not find our cache! Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 I think my worst day was 4 DNF's last August - Found 5 others that day. Quote Link to comment
+Tsmola Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 I had a few days where I had 6-7 or more. Quote Link to comment
+BadAndy Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 I didn't keep count but I once spent the entire day and only found 1. Now I don't get dnf's. If I can't find it within 15 minutes, it must be gone, so I just drop a replacement film can. Quote Link to comment
+Right Wing Wacko Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Without going back and checking, I would guess that the most I've had in a day is three or four. Once I get to three I assume I'm having a bad day, get depressed and go home to have a beer. Quote Link to comment
+cache_test_dummies Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Isn't it cool how the discussion of 'competition' for DNFs breeds good will versus the discussion of 'competition' for finds? Probably because the site doesn't show DNF counts on the user stat pages. I kinda wish it did. My personal DNF record is a paltry 2 for a single day. But those two were part of a real bad week in which I went out in search of caches on 5 separate days, finding 6 caches, and DNFing the heck out of 5 others. By the end of that week, I was getting ready to turn in my geocaching card. The following week was much better. Quote Link to comment
+M.S. thebrain and Pinky Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 I went 6/6 one day the next day I had 5 DNF not sure the reasons but it happen I have since gone back and found 4 of the 5 Quote Link to comment
+The Leprechauns Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 I am pretty good about logging my DNF's (see bookmark list linked below) and for me it's a DNF any time I park the car and the GPS is set on "GO TO" the cache waypoint, but I don't sign the logbook. Most recently, I DNF'd five caches on 12/23/05 in Erie Pennsylvania, mainly due to the snow. On the weekend of July 3-4, 2005, I DNF'd 11 caches in Erie Pennsylvania, mainly due to the lack of snow. On 11/27/04 I DNF'd 5 caches in Rochester New York, mainly due to the fact that I suck at finding caches. Quote Link to comment
+cache_test_dummies Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 On 11/27/04 I DNF'd 5 caches in Rochester New York, mainly due to the fact that I suck at finding caches. Aw, Lep - don't go beating yourself up. I'm sure lots of us have DNFd 21 caches in 4 days. Yeah, right! Quote Link to comment
Verga Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 My personal best (worst?) Was three for three. Went back the next day and two for two on two of the same ones. Was to embarrased to list the second set becasue others had posted finds on the same day I DNF'ed Quote Link to comment
+Isonzo Karst Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 I sure don't know about 15 minutes on site per star of difficulty. I've spent an hour dnfing a 1 and 10 minutes dnfing a 3. Sometimes it's just time to move on. I know I was terrifically excited about the 100 DNF milestone, but once I got there, felt a bit let down. Somehow going for that second hundred just isn't as interesting. Looks like 5 in one day is our record. That was in the fall after the hurricanes of '04. Lots of missing caches around, er, not around. Quote Link to comment
+Firefighter Skippy Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I DNF'd 5 yesterday but found 8 others. Quote Link to comment
+Beffums Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 (edited) I think the best (worst?) we've had in any one day was around 6 dnf's (with about 10 finds that day). we've gone back and found most of them. Edited February 6, 2006 by Beffums Quote Link to comment
luckykoi Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 OK, so what are the ground rules for the daily DNF record? Here are some of my ideas: 1. Have to go to the location and get within 25 feet according to the GPS. 2. If a puzzle cache, have to have some solution to the puzzle that's not a blind guess. 3. Have to log the DNF 4. If cache page states special equipment required must bring that equipment along and attempt to use. 5. Must spend 15 minutes per star of difficulty on site looking. 6. If group caching with other cachers can't include finds the other party made first as a DNF just because they found it first since this would be a valid find. 7. Multiple DNFs on the same day only if you go home or try for another find between attempts. Any other good ones to include? I think our daily record is 3 DNFs. However I'm pretty sure there's a at least a dozen local caches that we could put a true effort into and still end up with DNFs all in one day. - T of TandS I logged a DNF today that did not meet any of those guidlines but I knew the cache was gone. All that was left was the velcro. Quote Link to comment
+beejay&esskay Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I think I had a 7 DNF day. I was stubbornly searching for caches in Oxford OH. It turns out all the caches I couldn't find had been muggled (and I've subsequently found the replacements.) Quote Link to comment
+RUFFLEDOSTRICH Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 On the weekend of July 3-4, 2005, I DNF'd 11 caches in Erie Pennsylvania, mainly due to the lack of snow. On 11/27/04 I DNF'd 5 caches in Rochester New York, mainly due to the fact that I suck at finding caches. Not at hiding them...The cache I DNFed 4 times in five days wasn't just hidden by anybody Quote Link to comment
Trinity's Crew Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Well I haven't found any of the 233642 the active caches today. Is that a record? Now I had better get busy with all of the DNF logs. Quote Link to comment
+Tharagleb Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 (edited) On 7/9/2005 I had 4 finds and 6 DNF's, I call this "The Day of Infamy" It was raining and I got a little disinterested after my first couple of DNFs so I gave up on a couple of the later caches without looking real hard. But at least I logged them. On 11/27/04 I DNF'd 5 caches in Rochester New York, mainly due to the fact that I suck at finding caches. Yet somehow you managed to find nearly 1600 of them, how remarkable. I can only assume that frequently you must take a friend along who is good at finding caches. [Edit: ACK! The new successive-post mangulator merged my seperate posts together, oh well.] Edited February 6, 2006 by Tharagleb Quote Link to comment
Dr. DNF & Mr. Hide Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 DNF is an art form attempted by many and accomplished by few. Quote Link to comment
+VegasCacheHounds Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Hmmm, I actually had to go look....my most DNFs in one day was 4, but since I found 16 that day I'd say it was a grand day. Not bad, a 20% DNF rate, I'd say thats about typical of my overall stats. Quote Link to comment
+The Leprechauns Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Oh! If we're gonna measure by percentages, then I amend my prior answer to state that, on the July 4th weekend I DNF'd 11 caches, I also found 54. Not quite as impressive as the same weekend a year earlier (280 finds vs. 2 DNF's), but in 2005 I was hunting solo. Quote Link to comment
+VegasCacheHounds Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Oh! If we're gonna measure by percentages, then I amend my prior answer to state that, on the July 4th weekend I DNF'd 11 caches, I also found 54. Not quite as impressive as the same weekend a year earlier (280 finds vs. 2 DNF's), but in 2005 I was hunting solo. 16.9%, still not bad at all. Heck, 54 finds in one day, solo, with on;y 11 DNFs? And you say you have problems finding caches? Quote Link to comment
+Firefighter Skippy Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Well, today I DNF'd on 11 but now I see that 3 of them where disabled. Quote Link to comment
bogleman Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 (edited) The best I have to date is 13 finds and 3 DNF's in a single outing. But I have 6 logged DNF's on a single cache . Larrys Coon Hunting Cache Edited February 7, 2006 by bogleman Quote Link to comment
+tands Posted February 7, 2006 Author Share Posted February 7, 2006 Looks like 11 is winning so far. Now I have to get serious about choosing the 12 toughest hides close by... - T of TandS Quote Link to comment
kcart Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Eight DNFs against 22 finds the same day. Four of the eight were by the same hider. It's okay. He's a good guy. ©¿©¬ Quote Link to comment
+edscott Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Three DNFs yesterday.. I don't keep that data handy, but I do log DNFs if I give it a good try. Yesterday I also logged a "note" on one instead of a DNF because I did find the cache, but couldn't log it because I couldn't quite get to it. Maybe tomorrow with better pre-trip preparation. On the other hand I did enjoy 6 others and know I can get 2 of the DNF's quickly next time. Quote Link to comment
+Mystery Ink Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 (edited) I know someone that has over 912 DNFS so far he always takes a picture of the DNF geocoins we had made up. Since when we came up with the coin we thought of him while designing it. Edited February 10, 2006 by Mystery Ink Quote Link to comment
Mr. TSP Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I had a 9-DNF day out of 20 that I tried for one day back in November. All were supposedly still there as far as I know. Quote Link to comment
+Super_Nate Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I think the record for the most DNF's shouldn't be about the numbers, it should be a percentage based on how many you actually searched for! I went on a run once and looked for 5 caches and found 1 of them...the embarassing part was that the caches I couldn't find were no more than a 2/2! Quote Link to comment
+tands Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 I agree that it's not about the numbers. I get just a frustrated at one DNF as I do about three or four! And, it's easier to write up worthy documentation for one DNF than it is to do justice to several from one day. It's really all about the DNF log. That's where Geocaching truly can become an art form, be it poetry, prose, documentary or the most baldface lying one can come up with (my specialty). - T of TandS Quote Link to comment
n0wae Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 In March of 2005 we had 7 out of 12 that were DNFs. It was kinda depressing and at the time we were at a loss of the why of things until later... It seems someone got upset with a certain cacher and stole all his caches... We had the misfortune of trying to find 7 caches that day that were gone. The norm is one or two DNFs on a bad day and more times than not the cache is there and the problem is us. Quote Link to comment
kablooey Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 I know someone that has over 912 DNFS so far he always takes a picture of the DNF geocoins we had made up. Since when we came up with the coin we thought of him while designing it. Okay, I guess I'll weigh in here. I had 17 DNFs on 4/29/07 (Ft. Worth, TX). I had 16 DNFs on 1/28/06 (Fresno, CA) and 12/25/05 (Ojai, CA). But, apparently I didn't accomplish the 20-20 that I referred to in this log. Quote Link to comment
+simpjkee Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 since basically no one posts DNF's, I welcome any and all DNF's wether they match your guidelines or not. Quote Link to comment
+TeamGumbo Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 I had 3 DNFs in one day (no finds!), but here's the kicker: I had FOUR kids with me...d'oh! Quote Link to comment
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