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Hi,

 

i ask Garmin if they would add the pressure trend recording to the 60CSx.

 

my Request:

Hi,

 

in Software Version 3.50, you add a feature to the 60CS:

 

"Added an option to the Altimeter Setup page that enables the unit to record

pressure trend data while power is off (readings are taken every 15

minutes)."

 

I did not find this option in my 60CSx.

 

Would you add this in a future firmware ?

 

This is the answer i get:

Due to a hardware limitation, we were not able to implement this feature in

the 60CSx. We wanted to, but due to a hardware issue, this was not possible.

 

Unfortunately, i bought the 'S' Version just for this feature :D

 

Joe

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As someone else said it's important we email garmin and let them know the features we want to see added or changed.

 

The best way to get garming to make changes is to have people tell them they want them.

 

I know I have sent an email to garmin on the 76csx asking for some changes such as:

 

- option for smaller data boxes, ala the 76s (3 in a row, instead of only 2)

- change the "night" backround from blue to black

- allow the user to change the color of routes on the map as you can with tracks

- show some information on the data card, and add ability to get a file list and delete functions

- give the user 1 or 2 fully customizable data only pages, similar to the trip computer page

 

no doubt there are others, but everyone should make a point to email them their recommendations, they may be reading the forums but it's still important they get actual feedback from users sent to them.

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I just upgraded to a 60csx and took both units out for a field test several days ago. I was very pleased with the CSX's ability to maintain a constant satellite lock in the limestone cliff-lined river valley where I hike. The 60cs (with or without WAAS) typically loses the signal 4-5 times during a hike.

 

The memory card is a nice addition. If only it were possible to load the TOPO USA maps and downloaded aerials. Oh well... :huh:

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hmm.. Ok the new GPSMAP 60C(S)x got the new SiRF chip but they seems to have removed a few features that was in previous model.

 

- No more alarm clock

- No more pressure trend data while power off (CSx)

 

Anything else I forgot?

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hmm.. Ok the new GPSMAP 60C(S)x got the new SiRF chip but they seems to have removed a few features that was in previous model.

 

- No more alarm clock

- No more pressure trend data while power off (CSx)

 

Anything else I forgot?

 

Well, they've hade the menu icons rather "cartoonish" and not nearly as nice as those in the 60CS. There's no icon or menu item concerning the removable memory card whatsoever. Still no multiple lap memory for the stopwatch and there's the irritating straying-about of position that I never noticed on my previous CS.

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I have been really excited about the release of the new 60csx but after reading many of the different responces from this forum I'm not sure I want to upgrade.

 

I have owned the 60cs for almost two years and have really enjoyed this unit but I like the idea of the new chip set with the expandable memmory.

 

These are some of my concerns: barometer does'nt work when unit is off, no alarm clock, position seems to wander.

 

Now, do you think these things will be changed or improved sometime in the neer future?

 

Also, for those of you that upgraded from a 60cs to a 60csx are you happy you made this change?

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I have a Garmin GPS 60, 12XL, and GPS 76. I've used them all with the moving map software OziExplorer. I trust the accuracy of the 12XL and 76 more than the GPS60. The GPS60 will drift a couple hundred meters or better if there is canopy, even if the canopy isn't that bad.

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hmm.. Ok the new GPSMAP 60C(S)x got the new SiRF chip but they seems to have removed a few features that was in previous model.

 

- No more alarm clock

- No more pressure trend data while power off (CSx)

 

I'm curioius about this alarm clock issue.....

I checked Garmin's webiite and on the comparison pages it says the 60CSx has the alarm clock. No mention of it in the manual. Anybody ask Garmin?

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The alarm clock is a feature on the main menu of the 60C(S). It is not there on the 60C(S)x. The 60C(S) manual describes how to use it. As you noted, no mention of it the the 60C(S)x manual. Sounds like its gone.

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Ok. But would it be possible to incorporate the feature in the future, in the next release of the firmware? :blink: Will Garmin try to patch the x-series up to the consumers demands by firmware-updates or do you guys think that they will sometime in the future release a "xz"-series, an upgraded version of the x, with, for example, features like the alarma clock and the dormant barometer? On the other hand, this seems rather unlikely. Has Garmin done anything like it in the past?

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Without inside information, let's think for a moment what these two features have in common. They both need to be implement something that's computationally simple while the GPS is "off". Maybe they work by putting the unit into a sleep and waking it up once every few seconds. They compare the current time to the alarm time or turn on the barometer, read it, and then go back to bed. Well, unless the alarm triggers then it goes into full "turn on the screen and wake up" mode.

 

It's probably not a coincidence that both of the features of the C series that use this disappeared at the same time. This points more to "hmmm, the 2006 era component set doesn't have that feature" than "ooops, we left it out of the build".

 

I used the clock a few times and never used the barometer, so I won't personally miss these features but I understand why some of you are bummed about it.

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I think the clock chip is different in the new X-series, so it can't do these things when turned off, and it would have been nice.

 

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Geoff

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Anybody ask Garmin?

I sent an email, no answer yet. And I encourage you to do the same.

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Ow. This is a tough group.

 

I think that over the years Robert and I chatted a few times via the yahoo magellan users group about just how unresponsive Thales was to their customer's needs. I think Robert used the term "death by a thousand tiny paper cuts to describe the general aggravation about getting the Meridian series to live up to its potential. Superbly constructed unit that was way ahead of its time three years ago. I recently abandoned use of my Magellan and bought this terrific unit.

 

I wish Garmin would address its file management system but busting their chops about an alarm clock or a barometer that tracks while the unit is off seems trivial. My cellphone has an alarm clock. I'll bet yours does too. As far as tracking the barometric pressure; I'm not sure I would want to be campong out in the woods and draining the batteries of the electronic device that will show me how to get back home. Besides several FRS radios have a NOAA weather channel that will give you barometer readings.

 

Garmin: the Map60csx is a great unit. I can't wait to see what future firmware updates will bring.

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As far as tracking the barometric pressure; I'm not sure I would want to be campong out in the woods and draining the batteries of the electronic device that will show me how to get back home. Besides several FRS radios have a NOAA weather channel that will give you barometer readings.

 

If I were somewhere where I could receive NOAA weather forecasts then I'd probably have no need for the barometric pressure tracking. But when backpacking I'm frequently not in an area where those broadcasts are available. And I think you're overestimating the battery requirements for such a feature. My old Casio watch kept a barometric pressure trend plot at all times for three years while operating off a little button cell. I agree that it's not an indispensible feature, but it can be nice to have and adds to the utility of the weather-related functions of the pressure sensor.

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Interesting that people want to be able to see how much space is left on the memory card

(Why? MapSource tells you when it is loading maps) and also

want to see the file structure on the card (Why?)

 

I work with Garmin and Magellan units all day and IMHO the PC like file structure on the eXplorists makes them one of the most user unfriendly GPSs that we have.

 

Garmin; please do NOT apply this unnessecary and unfriendly mod to the x series

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I agree with BurnieM regarding the memory issue. Until you connect it the PC you can't add anything to it anyway. So I my opinion it would be a waste of resources. I would much rather see the alarm clock back on the unit, or a volume or adjustable setting for the audible alarms.

 

One of my concerns with my 76Cx has been the "delay" or shortened time for the alerts while autorouting. I have contacted Garmin and this was their response:

 

Thank you for contacting Garmin International,

 

Hello, I am writing in regards to your 76Cx issue. Thank you for providing us that information. It is true that future firmware updates would address issues such as these. I am going to pass this e-mail along to our engineers so that future update may contain fixes for these issues. We appreciate your input!

 

I hope the above information is helpful. Let us know if you have any other questions or troubles. Thanks for your time!

 

Best Regards,

 

Zack Olinger

Product Support Specialist

Garmin International

1200 E. 151st St.

Olathe, KS 66062

 

E-Mail: techsupp@garmin.com

Local Phone: 913-397-8200

Toll Free: 1-800-800-1020

Fax: 913-440-5488

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Interesting that people want to be able to see how much space is left on the memory card

(Why? MapSource tells you when it is loading maps) and also

want to see the file structure on the card (Why?)

 

I work with Garmin and Magellan units all day and IMHO the PC like file structure on the eXplorists makes them one of the most user unfriendly GPSs that we have.

 

Garmin; please do NOT apply this unnessecary and unfriendly mod to the x series

 

I would like to have the ability to save up to 10 copies of the 10,000 point active tracklog, like when I'm away from a computer for an extended period of time. The 60Cx should have an option, to mirror it's active tracklog to the microSD card, and when you clear the active tracklog, it would start the next copy of the active tracklog on the microSD card. Also the 20 saved track memories would come in handy, showing what you have on the microSD card.

 

If we had Garmin Shoes, and Magellan Shoes, the Garmin ones fit me alot better, with a more comfortable fit to them, but I still like the the way the Magellan Explorist shoes look, but I like how my 60Cx shoes fit better.

 

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Geoff

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About this thing with firmware updates for the new x-series; was there ever any similar issues with, say, the 60CS when it was brand new? And did Garmin fix those issues? Maybe it's possible to learn something from history...

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About this thing with firmware updates for the new x-series; was there ever any similar issues with, say, the 60CS when it was brand new? And did Garmin fix those issues? Maybe it's possible to learn something from history...

 

Good question, I wonder myself. I don't recall any, but I think the issue here is that we now are comparing the 60CSx against its predecessor expecting at least everything it had plus more, not less in the new supposedly "improved" model. Shouldn't it be even better with more functions, not less? Do we have to make sacrifices here for the SiRF technology?

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Well, I suppose you can't get everything all of the time. And the new improved accuracy can probably weigh up for the drawbacks. As someone on the forum said; the main function of the GPSr is to provide as accurate positioninformation as possible. One way to see it would be, that if the 60CSx does this, compared to the 60CS, it's also the better GPSr.

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Having a barometric altimeter is required for parachute jumping. Garmin has a Jumpmaster program for my Vista for that purpose. Does the 60cs or new 60csx have the Jumpmaster program. What about other models. Not something I need but might be interesting to know for those who do jump! :o

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Of course, you can load U.S. Topo maps. Alas, no aerial photos.

 

Yes, one can load Garmin's US TOPO but sadly NOT DeLorme's better TOPO USA maps. That was my point...

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Well, I suppose you can't get everything all of the time. And the new improved accuracy can probably weigh up for the drawbacks. As someone on the forum said; the main function of the GPSr is to provide as accurate positioninformation as possible. One way to see it would be, that if the 60CSx does this, compared to the 60CS, it's also the better GPSr.

The 60CS and 76CS have the Jumpmaster function. There's a discussion in this thread. Not sure about the x units.

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Having a barometric altimeter is required for parachute jumping. Garmin has a Jumpmaster program for my Vista for that purpose. Does the 60cs or new 60csx have the Jumpmaster program. What about other models. Not something I need but might be interesting to know for those who do jump! :o

 

Yes there is a jumping program.

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O.K. Boy scouts......

I am totally surprised that no one pointed the inability of the units using the 24K maps to plot profiles of routes. This is clearly a stated feature (O.K., I'm cheating, I'm using the CS). It states in the manual" To create a verticle profile of the route:...."

The route created displays as straight line from point A to B. Only when it is in the navigation mode will it route like it does with City Select/Navigator (and as shown route created in mapsource and transferred to the unit). In otherwords, when not in the navigation mode, to view the route, you will only see line from point A to B.

Now my point!!!! When a profile is created of the route in the unit, IT'S NOT A PROFILE OF THE ROUTE, IT'S A PROFILE OF THE LINE A TO B!!!!!!!

I find this completely unacceptable and hope that you x users hammer Garmin with this! When they say something can be done and it isn't so, that is badddddddd....

Unless I'm wrong, this problem has not been corrected with the X'es. :o

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Has anyone been getting a WAAS fix? I've had my csx for a couple of days. I also have the 60CS. Garmin says it will not actually lock onto 35 and will just show it hollow. But they say just like the cs, when it has WAAS there should be a D on the bar. Up until this morning, 35 would rarely show and only for a second. Then it would disappear. I left it on all night. When I got up 35 is showing strong with a hollow bar. But no D on any of the bars.

 

I have also discovered what appears to be a defect. Can someone else verify? Try finding something with the find menu, select map, menu, setup map. When I do it, the screen fades away and the unit shuts down.

 

I have to say other than the problems people have already pointed out, I am very satisfied with the unit.

 

Has anyone found a way to deal with only being able to load 1,050 maps? I was hoping to get a 1 gig card when they come out. But I will not if I can only load 1,050 maps.

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Since AOR-W (PRN 122, Garmin #35) began moving to the west the only time it's shown up for more than a few seconds on my 60Cx was the other day when it apparently went into a test or error mode for a while. At that time my Legend was also unable to get corrections, but has otherwise worked just fine with 35 in the same locations where the 60Cx acts like it can't see 35 at all.

 

I think the problem is that the SiRFstarIII firmware doesn't support WAAS all that terribly well. Since 35 has stopped transmitting ranging data while it's being moved the receiver for some reason just ignores it when it should work like most other receivers and just download the corrections, which is what Garmin's other GPSs do, indicated by the signal bar never turning solid but still getting the differential corrections.

 

Couldn't get my 60Cx to crash the way you said, but try this one if you're really bored (already reported to and verified by Garmin):

 

Change the color scheme away from default, to emerald for example if it's daytime. Next, try to view a tide prediction station (use find, they're at the bottom.)

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I have been watching this thread for some time, and it is flirting very close to "Garmin bashing". There are many new owners of 60C(S)x models on here that have little or no memory of when the 60c(s) came out. There were minor issues that were improved as the firmware evolved. The original 60cs firmware did not allow for pressure trend recording when the unit was turned off. That feature was added later. Garmin has generally been very responsive to its users needs and requests, and generally much more responsive than Magellan (at least based on what I have gathered from users here). While they have not been able to emplement every change and improvement we have requested, they have generally been good about improving the operation of the unit. Let them know what changes or improvements you would like to see, then give their engineers and software writers a chance to get it done.

 

And no, I do not work for Garmin.

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I would like to have the ability to save up to 10 copies of the 10,000 point active tracklog, like when I'm away from a computer for an extended period of time. The 60Cx should have an option, to mirror it's active tracklog to the microSD card, and when you clear the active tracklog, it would start the next copy of the active tracklog on the microSD card. Also the 20 saved track memories would come in handy, showing what you have on the microSD card.

 

If we had Garmin Shoes, and Magellan Shoes, the Garmin ones fit me alot better, with a more comfortable fit to them, but I still like the the way the Magellan Explorist shoes look, but I like how my 60Cx shoes fit better.

 

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Geoff

 

Most Magellans have 2,000 (too small IMHO) tracklog points and therefore having the abillity to copy multiple copies from the tracklog to the SD card is required.

 

One limitation is that you can only display one of the saved tracklogs on the GPS, just like you can have several waypoint files with 500 waypoints each but can only display one lot of waypoints.

I do not believe that the size is adequate and it appears to me the use of the SD card is more to get around firmware design limitations.

It is disappointing that Magellan continued these limitations in the new hardware, eXplorists.

 

While a bigger Garmin tracklog would be good, 10,000 points is pretty large already and I wonder how many people would want or could use a larger tracklog (or multiple copies) ?

 

Yes, you could add Magellan like features but at a cost of less usable and friendly user interface.

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O.K. Boy scouts......

I am totally surprised that no one pointed the inability of the units using the 24K maps to plot profiles of routes. This is clearly a stated feature (O.K., I'm cheating, I'm using the CS). It states in the manual" To create a verticle profile of the route:...."

 

Are you sure that it is not talking about tracks instead? The manual for my old 60CS mentions creation of track profiles, but nothing about route profiles.

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O.K. Boy scouts......

I am totally surprised that no one pointed the inability of the units using the 24K maps to plot profiles of routes. This is clearly a stated feature (O.K., I'm cheating, I'm using the CS). It states in the manual" To create a verticle profile of the route:...."

 

Are you sure that it is not talking about tracks instead? The manual for my old 60CS mentions creation of track profiles, but nothing about route profiles.

 

I just looked at the 60CS and the 60CSx manuals, and they say you can generate elevation profiles if you have the Mapsource 24K topos loaded. But it's under the "track" section, not the route section, and it looks like an option to use the map data rather than the track altitude data in generating the profile.

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Hello all ,

 

After doing lot of research I am going to be buying my first GPS and I leaning toward the Gamin GPSMAPS 60 CSX. But I do have one question after reading this thread is the 60CSX worth buying over the 60CS, even with the 60CSX tracking issues. Or should I buy the older version and give up a more sensitive antenna and expandable memory.

 

Thanks for a any suggestions :anicute:

Dex.

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Hello all ,

 

After doing lot of research I am going to be buying my first GPS and I leaning toward the Gamin GPSMAPS 60 CSX. But I do have one question after reading this thread is the 60CSX worth buying over the 60CS, even with the 60CSX tracking issues. Or should I buy the older version and give up a more sensitive antenna and expandable memory.

 

Thanks for a any suggestions :anicute:

Dex.

 

The "X" unit definitely has far superior ability to pick up and hold signal in previously impossible situations and the luxury of finally having expandable memory.

I guess it's all a matter of how much value one puts on things like plotting barometric pressure with the unit off, an alarm clock function etc. Hopefully, these things wil/can be addressed via firmware updates soon.

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Hello all ,

 

After doing lot of research I am going to be buying my first GPS and I leaning toward the Gamin GPSMAPS 60 CSX. But I do have one question after reading this thread is the 60CSX worth buying over the 60CS, even with the 60CSX tracking issues. Or should I buy the older version and give up a more sensitive antenna and expandable memory.

 

Thanks for a any suggestions :anicute:

Dex.

 

The "X" unit definitely has far superior ability to pick up and hold signal in previously impossible situations and the luxury of finally having expandable memory.

I guess it's all a matter of how much value one puts on things like plotting barometric pressure with the unit off, an alarm clock function etc. Hopefully, these things wil/can be addressed via firmware updates soon.

 

I agree with Jerry. The expandable memory puts the X model ahead of the older one (and I am a 60cs user). As I posted earlier, Garmin is usually pretty responsive to its users needs, and is fairly prompt about fixing bugs and such.

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What exactly does a master reset do? I am thinking about doing it, but not sure what all happens.

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I'm thinking about buying myself a 60CSx. The problem is that I live in Sweden and plan to buy from the U.S. My question is how often Garmins units (especially the 60-series) has such flaws that they need to be sent back to the retailer? If this, for example, would happen not to rarely, maybe I'll think about buying it from a local dealer to a higher price (or not at all :anicute:).

Edited by Lemino

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O.K. Boy scouts......

I am totally surprised that no one pointed the inability of the units using the 24K maps to plot profiles of routes. This is clearly a stated feature (O.K., I'm cheating, I'm using the CS). It states in the manual" To create a verticle profile of the route:...."

 

Are you sure that it is not talking about tracks instead? The manual for my old 60CS mentions creation of track profiles, but nothing about route profiles.

No, I'm definetly talking about routes. With 24K, at least on page 53 of the 60cs owner's manual: "To create a verticle profile of the route (available only if Garmin Mapsource U.S. topo 24K is used. (Provide elevation data at any point along the map)). Select "Profile" and press ENTER to display the route profile."

Also, with the cs, profiles for tracks can be produced either using barometric elevations or DEM elevations.

May be Garmin has removed this from the csx manuals?

I'm looking at September 2004 Part Number 190-00333-00 Rev. C

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I'm thinking about buying myself a 60CSx. The problem is that I live in Sweden and plan to buy from the U.S. My question is how often Garmins units (especially the 60-series) has such flaws that they need to be sent back to the retailer? If this, for example, would happen not to rarely, maybe I'll think about buying it from a local dealer to a higher price (or not at all :anicute:).

 

NB !!!! The American version do NOT have nordic language. Its the same firmware for all modelles, but for some reason Garmin has done som hardware change to them, so it do not display Nordic langugage.

 

There are however a patched version of the 2.50 firmware for 60Cx, 60CSx, 76Cx and 76CSx (same firmware for all) that gives you Enlish, Danish, Norwegian, and Swedish language.

 

You find it here:

http://www.megashares.com/index.php?d01=28...7e8845964b92b3f

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"NB !!!!" means "notable", right? But besides the language (which I don't think is a big problem), there is no reason to hesitate, is there?

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Just to bring some context to the discussion thus far I would simply point out that, despite the pluses and minuses that have been expressed to far concerning the X series units compared to what we have had so far from Garmin, the X series are vastly superior when it comes to getting a fix under difficult conditions. For bush and difficult terrain hikes this makes the choice of the X series a no brainier.

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O.K. Boy scouts......

I am totally surprised that no one pointed the inability of the units using the 24K maps to plot profiles of routes. This is clearly a stated feature (O.K., I'm cheating, I'm using the CS). It states in the manual" To create a verticle profile of the route:...."

 

Are you sure that it is not talking about tracks instead? The manual for my old 60CS mentions creation of track profiles, but nothing about route profiles.

No, I'm definetly talking about routes. With 24K, at least on page 53 of the 60cs owner's manual: "To create a verticle profile of the route (available only if Garmin Mapsource U.S. topo 24K is used. (Provide elevation data at any point along the map)). Select "Profile" and press ENTER to display the route profile."

Also, with the cs, profiles for tracks can be produced either using barometric elevations or DEM elevations.

May be Garmin has removed this from the csx manuals?

I'm looking at September 2004 Part Number 190-00333-00 Rev. C

 

I did a route on 24K Central and loaded to the GPS. When I go to the route and select profile, it shows the profile. Actually, I did not know it did thatl. Pretty neat. Not sure why it does not work for you, but it works on my 60CSx

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"NB !!!!" means "notable", right? But besides the language (which I don't think is a big problem), there is no reason to hesitate, is there?

 

Why not?

Norway has one of the most dense number of GPS compare to people living there.

The nordic language is in the firmware, but du not show up in the American version.

 

Lots of people here buy American version due to the half price compare to the European one.

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O.K. Boy scouts......

I am totally surprised that no one pointed the inability of the units using the 24K maps to plot profiles of routes. This is clearly a stated feature (O.K., I'm cheating, I'm using the CS). It states in the manual" To create a verticle profile of the route:...."

 

Are you sure that it is not talking about tracks instead? The manual for my old 60CS mentions creation of track profiles, but nothing about route profiles.

No, I'm definetly talking about routes. With 24K, at least on page 53 of the 60cs owner's manual: "To create a verticle profile of the route (available only if Garmin Mapsource U.S. topo 24K is used. (Provide elevation data at any point along the map)). Select "Profile" and press ENTER to display the route profile."

Also, with the cs, profiles for tracks can be produced either using barometric elevations or DEM elevations.

May be Garmin has removed this from the csx manuals?

I'm looking at September 2004 Part Number 190-00333-00 Rev. C

 

I did a route on 24K Central and loaded to the GPS. When I go to the route and select profile, it shows the profile. Actually, I did not know it did thatl. Pretty neat. Not sure why it does not work for you, but it works on my 60CSx

Ya, but the profile is not the route, but a straight line from begin to end. Also, when you display the route, it displays a line from begin to end. It's only when you start navigation that you can display the actual route. However, and my point all along is that the profile is not of the route, but the line from A to B.

I guess after all these points, no one has the wherewithall to reach the same conclusion.

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i ask Garmin if they would add the pressure trend recording to the 60CSx.

 

 

I've found that having garmin tell you "no" means nothing in what they will actually do. It was not 4-5 months ago that I emailed garmin asking if they had any plans to do a memory card based unit in the future, as while I wanted to shift from my 76s to a color unit there was no way I was going to do it until they had memory card ability.

 

I was simply told they had no plans to do anything in the future with memory card ability. This does not really surprize me since they probably are not allowed to release any product changes or even updates until they are offically announced.

 

So just because they tell you no, doesn't mean it won't happen.

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Hey

 

Just wanted to say thanks for the advice and suggestions. I will be ordering my 60CSX later this week and then hitting the trail to look for my first geocache.

 

Cheers

Dex. ;)

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i ask Garmin if they would add the pressure trend recording to the 60CSx.

 

 

I've found that having garmin tell you "no" means nothing in what they will actually do. It was not 4-5 months ago that I emailed garmin asking if they had any plans to do a memory card based unit in the future, as while I wanted to shift from my 76s to a color unit there was no way I was going to do it until they had memory card ability.

 

I was simply told they had no plans to do anything in the future with memory card ability. This does not really surprize me since they probably are not allowed to release any product changes or even updates until they are offically announced.

 

So just because they tell you no, doesn't mean it won't happen.

 

There's a big difference between giving someone a heads up in future product releases vs. exisiting product firmware enhancements/suggestions. It could very well be that in the trade-off between adding the new SiRF and microSD that they had to change hardware sufficiently so that the sleep mode is no longer possible without the new hardware drawing too much power while it's sleeping. That would make sense since all the applications that use to require sleep mode is now gone. It would also explain why the compass on/off would not affect the power drain all that much.

 

One improvement that Garmin should have made a long time ago was to goto USB2. I mean come on, who still uses USB1 besides them? They've ALWAYS been behind in developing their I/O ports. It took them forever to go to USB1 and now it's taking them forever to go to USB2. With the large miniSD card capacities, it will take more than an hour to load a 512mb card!

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> With the large miniSD card capacities, it will take more than an hour to load a 512mb card!

 

(Footnote: these use MicroSD, not MiniSD - I see you know this, but I'm clarifying for future generations.)

 

These units do full speed USB (it's not "USB2" vs. "USB1") which is 12Mbit/sec which is about 1.5Mbytes/sec with the wind at your back. So once the maps are prepared for a 512MByte card, you're looking at under 13 minutes. Sure, the prep time is noticable and I don't think it actually reaches the theoretic throughput, but it's not off by a factor of five.

 

The point of large memory devices is so you don't have to do this very often. If you travel enough that you're reloading 512MB regions enough that this is annoying, you can remove the card and mount it in an external high speed reader/writer.

 

I have relatively nimble fingers and short patience, but I'm not sure I could do it any faster and with less aggravation. But it is an option.

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