Pinster56 Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Now that I never use film for photography anymore and companies like Canon completely dropping film camera lines altogether, those trusty (reviled?) 35mm micro containers will soon become a thing of the past. I have no more myself to set up microcaches with...anybody have suggestions for a cheap alternative? Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 You can go to anyplace that develops film and they will give you free film canisters. For alternatives, I am very happy with nalgene cryo tubes. Other people use plastic match containers (the metal ones rust) or bison tubes (or the generic ones). Quote Link to comment
+JohnnyVegas Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Now that I never use film for photography anymore and companies like Canon completely dropping film camera lines altogether, those trusty (reviled?) 35mm micro containers will soon become a thing of the past. I have no more myself to set up microcaches with...anybody have suggestions for a cheap alternative? 1st. I will be a long time before film cans and 35mm film goes away. There war limits to a Dig camera, for one a dig camera can not give the same resalution as a film camers when taking scineics. 2nd. There are many people in the world that just cannot afford a dig camera and that do not have a computer. 3rd, 35mm film cans are not very good as cache containers. Quote Link to comment
+ZSandmann Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 On the cheap but not watertight side try candy containers like miniM&Ms, skittles gum, breath strips and mints etc. On the more expensive but more sealable end try pill safes available at any pharmacy for $1-4 each. Z Quote Link to comment
Pinster56 Posted January 20, 2006 Author Share Posted January 20, 2006 It will be a long time before film cans and 35mm film goes away. 1. That's what they said about the horse and buggy in 1906. 2. That's what they said about the vinyl record in 1986. 3. That's what they said about the VHS tape in 1996. Quote Link to comment
+Shifty Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Ebay. You can get 200 for like 10 bucks. Quote Link to comment
+Jamie Z Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 1. That's what they said about the horse and buggy in 1906.2. That's what they said about the vinyl record in 1986. 3. That's what they said about the VHS tape in 1996. And all three of those things can still be seen with regularity. As others have pointed out, film cannisters make for poor cache containers in most climates. My favorite alternative is the orange match containers sold at a particular store for 96 cents. Paint 'em to match the surroundings, and they're waterproof (unless people lose the rubber gasket ). Jamie Quote Link to comment
+BBWolf+3Pigs Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Someone in another thread suggested the containers that diabetes test strips come in. Myfather happens to use them, so I had him mail me a few. The lids are much more watertight than film cans, and they are tad narrower and a bit longer. My first one goes out to replace an aging and rusting altoids tin this weekend. Quote Link to comment
+reveritt Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 sporting goods and army surplus stores often sell waterproof match containers that work well--and are usually olive drab. Quote Link to comment
Hugh Jazz Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 The only proper cache container is the 50cal Ammo Can. Quote Link to comment
+edscott Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Ebay. You can get 200 for like 10 bucks. ..but please don't. Most of us want them to go away. Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Whatever. They are perfectly good micro containers, as long as the cache is not out is the elements. I've used a number of them on caches that were not subject to drenching and they were great. With any cache, you must match the container to the location. Quote Link to comment
ImpalaBob Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Soda bottle preforms and film canisters for sale .... HERE ImpalaBob Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Their prices are kinda high. Quote Link to comment
+BBWolf+3Pigs Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Soda bottle preforms and film canisters for sale .... HERE ImpalaBob Or Steve Spangler Science. Quote Link to comment
+cachew nut Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 1/4 oz containers. Quote Link to comment
+ZackJones Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Sam's film department gave me a bunch. I use them for the right purpose though I make CITO kits out of them by stuffing a plastic bag into them and leaving them in any cache that will hold one. Quote Link to comment
+Poidawg Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 I use digital and film cameras. Film will be around a long time, there are photographers who are dedicated to film cameras. You CAN get the film canisters from almost any photo shop, or find a local camera club. A friend of mine who is into bugs loves the opaque film canisters and is always on the look out for them, so they are popular with people with varied interests Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Someone in another thread suggested the containers that diabetes test strips come in. Myfather happens to use them, so I had him mail me a few. The lids are much more watertight than film cans, and they are tad narrower and a bit longer. My first one goes out to replace an aging and rusting altoids tin this weekend. Evil, BBW! Oh, wait a moment, I've got one of those out there, somewhere. Hee hee hee. Quote Link to comment
+BBWolf+3Pigs Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 1/4 oz containers. I get similar containers at work. They are used to hold small electronics parts (pins,sockets, etc). Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 (edited) It will be a long time before film cans and 35mm film goes away. 1. That's what they said about the horse and buggy in 1906. 2. That's what they said about the vinyl record in 1986. 3. That's what they said about the VHS tape in 1996. The vinyl record has not gone away. Audophiles prefer the superior sound and seek them out. As a far as film canisters, good riddance. One of the worst containers around. I don' think I've ever found one with a dry log inside. Waterproof match containers are a good replacement. They keep the log dry, are cheap (usually not much more than a buck) and actually fit a pencil stub. Edited January 21, 2006 by briansnat Quote Link to comment
+JohnnyVegas Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 I know of a record store the only seels Vinyl and he does quite well. I do not know were you shop, but VHF tapes can be bought in just about any store you walk into. AS far as the hourse and bugy, there are parts of the world in which horse are used for transportion on a dalily basis. There is more to the world than the USA So There!! Quote Link to comment
+The Roaming Gnome Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 A buddy and I use cryocontainers. They are water-tight, air-tight, they don't get brittle in the cold (made to withstand -80C), the perfect micro. Quote Link to comment
+JohnnyVegas Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 A buddy and I use cryocontainers. They are water-tight, air-tight, they don't get brittle in the cold (made to withstand -80C), the perfect micro. Those sound interesting, it is google time Quote Link to comment
+The Roaming Gnome Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 http://www.nalgenelabware.com/products/pro...bcategory_name= Quote Link to comment
+Turtle3863 Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 On the cheap but not watertight side try candy containers like miniM&Ms, Z I will put a M & M container up against a 35mm film can anyday. Quote Link to comment
+Googling Hrpty Hrrs Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Waterproof match containers are a good replacement. They keep the log dry, are cheap (usually not much more than a buck) and actually fit a pencil stub. I just don't do the film cannisters anymore. I figure a cache is worth at least the .99 cents of a good, waterproof match container. Putting a log, in one of those little jewelry ziploc bags, IN a waterproof match container, I've never had reports of a wet, gnarled, funky log. Plus the green ones already have good camo, and the little plastic loop is convenient for hanging the cache. Film cannisters seem to always fail at some point. Quote Link to comment
+Googling Hrpty Hrrs Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 One more note- I know people like them, but I've seen many bison tubes fail. The few M&M's caches I've found were fine. Quote Link to comment
+Bad Duck Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Plus you get to eat the M&M's Quote Link to comment
+JohnnyVegas Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Now the Cyro conatianers look cool thansk for the link. While the match conatiners work, for me they are too small, no room for sig items ( I collect them) as far as the M&M containers. I used on of them for one of my caches and I found it full of water after a recent storm. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 (edited) Now the Cyro conatianers look cool thansk for the link. While the match conatiners work, for me they are too small, no room for sig items ( I collect them) as far as the M&M containers. I used on of them for one of my caches and I found it full of water after a recent storm. They look very much like the smallest Nalgene Straight Jars. I know people like them, but I've seen many bison tubes fail. I've never had one fail, but a few I've owned were close. The O ring deteriorates and falls apart after about a year. Easily enough replaced though. The few M&M's caches I've found were fine. I've found a few wet and a few that were fine. Overall their record seems better than film canisters. These Nalgene cryo vials work great too. I bought a bag of like 25 off another geocacher for around $5 and another bag off Ebay for a bit more. Here they are next to a bison cylinder: Edited January 21, 2006 by briansnat Quote Link to comment
+HolyCowboys Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Yes, quick run to a wallmart photo center or local camera shop. They send them out for recycling. You could also ask a local photographer for some. I could bet they have some expired film still in the fridge. I know we do. Quote Link to comment
+fishingdude720 Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 I use these cool mini tupperware containers. They are like 1x1x1 and have a clip on top like a tupperware container. I use these because the whole family has digtal cameras. I also use pill containers, the ones that go around your neck so you can tie them to stuff. Also i make homemade cache containers that are the size of two bottlecaps (they are made out of them) and are completely waterproof. But those are my little secret. Quote Link to comment
+CamoCacher Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 As an avid photographer I just don't see this trully heppening, yes some comanies are discontinuing and that means ordering it instead but to many of us stll us good ole film. *(and yes I also use Digi). Quote Link to comment
+Team Tigger International Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 It will be a long time before film cans and 35mm film goes away. 1. That's what they said about the horse and buggy in 1906. 2. That's what they said about the vinyl record in 1986. 3. That's what they said about the VHS tape in 1996. Ahhh but the horse and buggy are still around ... and being used quite a bit here in Amish land Indiana Vinyl records have made a small comeback as of late and I still have my old ones .... I still have VHS tapes and last I looked you could still by the blank ones for taping from your vcr .. plus they are still selling VCR/DVDcombos ....... Just my observations ..... Star Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 (edited) It will be a long time before film cans and 35mm film goes away. 1. That's what they said about the horse and buggy in 1906. 2. That's what they said about the vinyl record in 1986. 3. That's what they said about the VHS tape in 1996. Photographic Mylars are considered archival quality. Digial formats are not yet there. Film in one form or another is going to be here for awhile if for no other reason than the need for archival quality mediums. That doesn't mean that 35mm and film canisters as we know it are toast. So are ammo cans anymore. Seen the prices in Cheaperthandirt recently? Edited January 22, 2006 by Renegade Knight Quote Link to comment
+bobbarley Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Ebay. You can get 200 for like 10 bucks. Help the sanity of the neighborhood those are in. Micros in my nightmares! Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Waterproof match containers are a good replacement. They keep the log dry, are cheap (usually not much more than a buck) and actually fit a pencil stub. I just don't do the film cannisters anymore.... Same here. Anywhere I could hide a film canister I can hide a Decon. Quote Link to comment
+budd-rdc Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 It will be a long time before film cans and 35mm film goes away. 1. That's what they said about the horse and buggy in 1906. 2. That's what they said about the vinyl record in 1986. 3. That's what they said about the VHS tape in 1996. Quoting and replying to your post once again, but it's nothing personal. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it still takes longer for a digital camera to store the image to flash than a 35mm camera to store it on film, so until this is resolved, film cameras will still be around (especially for those action shots), and so will films and the dreaded 35mm micro containers. It's true that sales of 35mm cameras aren't growing, but they aren't disappearing, because many of them are durable and work for years and years. Camera companies have decided to streamline their manufacturing capacities. Quote Link to comment
+Mystery Ink Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 (edited) We haven't had too much trouble finding 35mm film canisters. And they work great for caches like this with 155 in there we get most of ours at Costco. Edited January 22, 2006 by Mystery Ink Quote Link to comment
+olbluesguy Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Anybody remember the old aluminum 35mm film cans with the screw on top. Now there was a film canister! Quote Link to comment
+Team Tigger International Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Waterproof match containers are a good replacement. They keep the log dry, are cheap (usually not much more than a buck) and actually fit a pencil stub. I just don't do the film cannisters anymore.... Same here. Anywhere I could hide a film canister I can hide a Decon. We have found that the small Lock & Lock containers work well ! Star Quote Link to comment
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