salmoned Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 (edited) Is this cache too hard to find? It's meant to be tough, but I wonder if anyone can figure out the first location? I've given a number of clues (when requested) via our local BB, but they're as likely to disinform as vice versa. Any avid puzzle solvers out there? Edited January 18, 2006 by edchen Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 "This page cannot be displayed." Quote Link to comment
salmoned Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 Sorry, it took a few tries to manage the link (my first). Quote Link to comment
+ZSandmann Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 lol I dont even see where to start but I got the Leslie Neilson reference. Quote Link to comment
salmoned Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 (edited) Always nice to add a bit of humor on the 'toughies', eh? BTW, ther's a twenty in it for the first correct solution emailed. Edited January 18, 2006 by edchen Quote Link to comment
+the hermit crabs Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 (edited) oops, replied in wrong thread. Edited January 18, 2006 by the hermit crabs Quote Link to comment
+Dreamin'Eagle Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 All I can tell you is that Nereus is from greek mythology. If my memory serves me right he had something to do with the "sea/ocean" before Poseidon. I will email with more of an idea. Quote Link to comment
+ZackJones Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 BTW, ther's a twenty in it for the first correct solution emailed. I do hope you're kidding. Quote Link to comment
+badlands Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 I'm glad I don't live in HI. This cache would drive me nuts. Quote Link to comment
explorerboy Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 My advice? Maybe you should try one just a little easier. But that's just me. Quote Link to comment
salmoned Posted February 8, 2006 Author Share Posted February 8, 2006 Okay, considering the possibility of someone accessing the reviewer notes (per the thread on pre-published finds), the offer is withdrawn. Who'da thunk it? Quote Link to comment
+Poidawg Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 (edited) Nereus' nickname is the earthshaker http://www.termpapers-termpapers.com/dbs/d3/mci196.shtml Edited February 9, 2006 by Poidawg Quote Link to comment
+Touchstone Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 I'm assuming the nickname is reffering to some Hawaiin mythology. A quick google gives me a few possiblities: Kane, Elieli, Eli, Kane Ulu Lani, Kane Nui Akea I guess I'd start looking for references to some iteration of some of those. Having successfully found one of edchens puzzles (Easy as Pie), and DNF'ing another (Rise of the Machines), I can attest to the creativity put into these things. I'm guessing that solving the puzzle is only half the story. Retrieving the cache is probably more than half the battle Quote Link to comment
+andersonranchero Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I believe the term Paper is wrong. With the search I did it never once showed up earthshaker. I did however find another name at several sources. Just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Is this cache too hard to find? It's meant to be tough, but I wonder if anyone can figure out the first location? I've given a number of clues (when requested) via our local BB, but they're as likely to disinform as vice versa. Any avid puzzle solvers out there? No cache is "too hard", it's your abilities that aren't good enough - yet! Heck, this cache doesn't even have a description Quote Link to comment
+ThePropers Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Wow, 4 months and not even an attempt at it? That would never fly in these parts. Must not be that many cachers in Hawaii. Quote Link to comment
salmoned Posted February 15, 2006 Author Share Posted February 15, 2006 (edited) Wow, 4 months and not even an attempt at it? That would never fly in these parts. Must not be that many cachers in Hawaii. Well, there have been attempts both physical and mental, but since 'DNF = Loser' no DNFs have remained posted. I have tried to clarify in the listing that searching is useless until the first hide location is determined. Also, additional (nebulous) hints have been posted on our local bulletin board, though I'm not sure how helpful they may prove [see http://www.hawaiithreads.com/forumdisplay.php?t=6792]. I am officially reinstating the $20 reward for first to e-mail me with the location and/or coordinates of the first hide. This cache was to be the first (and easiest?) of a series of similar 'intuitive thinking' caches, but apparently one man's easy... Edited February 15, 2006 by edchen Quote Link to comment
+roboknight Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 (edited) Is this cache too hard to find? It's meant to be tough, but I wonder if anyone can figure out the first location? I've given a number of clues (when requested) via our local BB, but they're as likely to disinform as vice versa. Any avid puzzle solvers out there? I don't know if it's too hard to solve or not as I haven't really spent much time thinking about it. But the fact that you are getting questions about it DOES puzzle me because Nereus doesn't answer questions unless he's caught and changes shape to avoid being caught. Old Man of the Sea seems like a good place to start in Hawaii (as a nickname), but I don't know any Hawaiian legends relating to an "Old Man of the Sea"... Although the bay or lake next to your phony co-ords does sort of seem to resemble an old man if you use Google Maps to view it. He has sort of a long nose. Now it would be interesting if you had started a Nereus travel bug somewhere that kept changing caches to avoid being caught. I haven't checked that out though. It would have also been a cool play on words "Near us" or something like that. I won't be able to pick it up anyhow even if I am on the right trail (I doubt it, but maybe it will key in someone who is) because I won't get to Honolulu any time soon Edited February 24, 2006 by roboknight Quote Link to comment
+andersonranchero Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Hey edchen, Give us an update. Has anyone used their screwdriver yet? Enguiring mines want to know. Quote Link to comment
salmoned Posted February 24, 2006 Author Share Posted February 24, 2006 An update: I haven't heard from anyone having found any part of this cache yet. The $20 prize is for non-locals not planning to visit soon, since a pure gold bullion prize is offered for the first to find the hides in sequential order. Here's a big hint - there's not much advantage (if any) for locals in determining the first location. Thanks for the interest in this cache. Quote Link to comment
+geobudman Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Dang it, I missed this one on the way to the "Cache om a Hot Iron Bridge" cache in columbus, MS! Quote Link to comment
+CheshireFrog Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Is this cache too hard to find? It's meant to be tough, but I wonder if anyone can figure out the first location? I've given a number of clues (when requested) via our local BB, but they're as likely to disinform as vice versa. Any avid puzzle solvers out there? I don't know if it's too hard to solve or not as I haven't really spent much time thinking about it. But the fact that you are getting questions about it DOES puzzle me because Nereus doesn't answer questions unless he's caught and changes shape to avoid being caught. Old Man of the Sea seems like a good place to start in Hawaii (as a nickname), but I don't know any Hawaiian legends relating to an "Old Man of the Sea"... Although the bay or lake next to your phony co-ords does sort of seem to resemble an old man if you use Google Maps to view it. He has sort of a long nose. Now it would be interesting if you had started a Nereus travel bug somewhere that kept changing caches to avoid being caught. I haven't checked that out though. It would have also been a cool play on words "Near us" or something like that. I won't be able to pick it up anyhow even if I am on the right trail (I doubt it, but maybe it will key in someone who is) because I won't get to Honolulu any time soon The film version of Hemmingway's "The Old Man and the Sea" was partly shot in Kona, but that doesn't narrow it down too much. Quote Link to comment
salmoned Posted April 1, 2006 Author Share Posted April 1, 2006 First e-mailed correct-solution-to-first-part prize raised to US$30. Quote Link to comment
+andGuest Posted April 2, 2006 Share Posted April 2, 2006 I think I may be on to something but can not figure out how it helps me figure out the coords for stage one. I will post here and maybe if someone figures it out then we can split the $30. Nereus nickname = old man of the sea = old man and the sea (not ishmael) = Ahab But how could Ahab give me the correct coords? Or maybe I am barking up the wrong tree. andGuest Quote Link to comment
+ibycus Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 I'm thinking Nereus's nickname is "Old Gentleman", rather than "old man of the sea" But Pontos, the great sea, was father of truthful Nereus who tells no lies, eldest of his sons. They call him the Old Gentleman because he is trustworthy, and gentle, and never forgetful of what is right, but the thoughts of his mind are mild and righteous. — Hesiod, Theogony 233 Quote Link to comment
salmoned Posted April 18, 2006 Author Share Posted April 18, 2006 In who's translation did you find that? Translations of Hesiod and Homer were indeed among the sources used. Also, I'm bumping up the prize for determining (and e-mailing) the first hide location to $40. This offer will hold until first solved or until the cache has been listed for 1 year. Good luck. Quote Link to comment
+vyper4 Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 N21 27.343 W157 49.783 Shirley I. Guested right? Quote Link to comment
+flyingRfarms Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 (edited) hummmm a trekkee amoung us i see!!! HHHHHHHUUUUUUUUMMMM!!!!! boy this would be nice if i wasnt 3000 miles away!!!! and for those of us on the main land the messages on the hawaii bulletin board are either in hawiian (native language) or some of em look to be either vulcan or romulan.(its been a while OK) if i knew more about tha surrounding area i might be able to help!!! hey edchen am I getting the least bit warm??? Edited April 20, 2006 by flyingRfarms Quote Link to comment
salmoned Posted April 21, 2006 Author Share Posted April 21, 2006 vyper4, wow! You guested right, but failed to e-mail me! andersonranchero picked up on it and shot out an e-mail, so he gets the prize! He says thanks. ... April fools. flyingRfarms, who says I'm a trekkie? I may be... okay I am, but this [cache] has nothing to do with that (unless my subconscious undid me). Being nearby is no advantage in solving for the first hide - anyone could figure it out (or intuit it). I plan to attend a CITO event this saturday and may provide an additional clue at that time (if anyone asks for one). If so, it will be posted by monday. Quote Link to comment
+roboknight Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 I'm thinking Nereus's nickname is "Old Gentleman", rather than "old man of the sea" But Pontos, the great sea, was father of truthful Nereus who tells no lies, eldest of his sons. They call him the Old Gentleman because he is trustworthy, and gentle, and never forgetful of what is right, but the thoughts of his mind are mild and righteous. — Hesiod, Theogony 233 Yeah, I've seen the reference to Old Gentleman as well, and it may be more acurate, but he also seems to have some reference as the old man of the sea according to some other sources and definitions, which I thought might better fit HI. However, it seems that is little help thus far. Unless it is some veiled reference to a far off place, like NH, where the Old Man of the Mountain no longer resides, but I doubt it. Are a good deal of people spending time on this one? I'm curious because I've noticed little activity in this thread since I was here last. I would have figured someone would have claimed the gold bullion by now. Quote Link to comment
salmoned Posted May 1, 2006 Author Share Posted May 1, 2006 Claimed the gold bullion? No one's even claimed the $40 for figuring out the first hide location. I made an attempt at the final location yesterday, to check on it, but couldn't make it. I've been there twice, but that doesn't make it any easier. I'll take another stab within the next 2 weeks (after I recuperate). Quote Link to comment
salmoned Posted June 27, 2006 Author Share Posted June 27, 2006 Congratulations to ShadowAce! He has e-mailed claiming to have the location of the first hide. Upon confirmation, he will be awarded the $40 FTS prize. I was seriously worried this mystery may have been beyond the ken of mortal man. There's still the gold bullion up for grabs (but ShadowAce has an edge now). Quote Link to comment
+MtnGoat50 Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 I was going through my watchlist today and noticed this one. When I checked the cache page I saw that it's gone unfound for over a year and there are no DNFs or notes (other than one by the hider). Did ShadowAce actually win the prize for solving the puzzle? Is anyone still working on this? Quote Link to comment
+greengecko Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 No cache is "too hard", it's your abilities that aren't good enough - yet! okay... here's one for ya! The Messenger’s Demise it's rated "six" stars! Quote Link to comment
+R.O.B Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Silly me, I've been doing this all wrong. I've been hiding mine so people WILL find them . Quote Link to comment
+Spoon36 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 I haven't. Well not this one. But it is not as hard as those. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...d8-79af253b4a63 Quote Link to comment
salmoned Posted February 12, 2007 Author Share Posted February 12, 2007 Yes, I have it from a reliable source that ShadowAce has received the $40 prize. Unfortunately, this cache may soon be disabled and/or archived due to technical difficulties. In any case, no secrets will be revealed as the cache (and concept) may undergo resurrection. High difficulty caches fill an important niche in this activity and are, by definition, 'NOT FOR EVERYBODY'. Quote Link to comment
+ibycus Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 In who's translation did you find that? Hadn't been back here in a while, so I'm not totally sure, but I googled my quote, and came up with wikipedia entry, which is probably where I got it from, but that neglects to mention the translator. Quote Link to comment
+Ed & Julie Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 lol I dont even see where to start but I got the Leslie Neilson reference. Shirley U. Guest (?jest?) spelled wrong on puropse, or just need a disctionary? Quote Link to comment
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