+CamoCacher Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 In addition to Naval aviation squadrons, NAS Barbers Point hosts the Coast Guard, which has been part of the station as a Coast Guard Air Facility since 1949. The facility was designated Coast Guard Air Station Barbers Point in 1965 and is the only Coast Guard aviation unit located in the 14th Coast Guard District. Their C-130 Hercules aircraft and H-65 Dolphin helicopters perform search and rescue missions within the central Pacific maritime region. Aircraft also conduct water pollution patrols in the Hawaiian Islands. The Coast Guard Air Station, a tenant of the NAS, remained at Barbers Point, which now serves general aviation on Oahu and hosts units of the Hawaii National Guard. The Navy has retained 1,100 acres for military housing and family support facilities. The 2,150 acres ceded to Hawaii is now the Kalaeloa Community Development District. http://gis.hicentral.com/website/parcelzoning/viewer.htm Which is the City and County of Honolulu Department of Planning and Permiting Searched for the TMK 91013015:0000 provided and this is what I got in about 5 secs. OWNER Owner Information 91013015:0000 Name: UNITED STATES OF AMERICA Type: Fee Owner Percent Owner: Assessment Notice Address: > City: State: Country: Zip: PROPERTY INFO Property Information 91013015:0000 Building Value: 0 Building Exempt: 0 Land Value: 24,021,200 Land Exempt: 24,021,200 Land Classification: Improved Residential Unit Number: 0 Acre: 68.632 Square Feet: 0 BUILDING PERMITS: No building permits meeting the criteria you entered were found. Please try again. ZONING INFO: TMK: 9-1-013:015 Historical TMK Sequence: Area (sq ft): 2989610. Area (acres): 68.632 Lot Number: Ohana: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LAND CONTROL CODES Code Type Code Description FLOOD ZONE FIRM ZONE D HEIGHT LIMIT FEDERAL JURISDICTION HISTORIC SITE REGISTER NO LOT RESTRICTIONS NONE SPECIAL DISTRICT NOT IN SPECIAL DISTRICT STATE LAND USE URBAN DISTRICT STREET SETBACK NONE ZONING (LUO) F-1 MILITARY & FEDERAL PRESERVATION ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FACILITIES Facility Code Year Built No. of Floors Total Floor Area No data available. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TMK SEPARATIONS Activity Code Census Tract Census Block No data available. Address List: Using the link Camo provided to the source he got his information from, I discovered something. Use the image viewer and select the area in question. Now be aware this map is a little out dated compared to my gps america select 7 software. It is between essex rd. and an unnamed rd. off of vinson which is also unnamed on the tax map. The click on state land on the bottom under utitlities I think. It will show all state land in red. What do you know, the area in question is red. I printed the image out and have to scan it into a jpeg before I can upload it. You cannot hyperlink for some reason. Whos ignorant now? First off Camo is a She not a he. Second I'm not sure what the color red has to do with any of this as when I click on it all it does it bring it in closer but I don't get any red????? What I do get when I get in is a note that comes up and says: Federally regulated, F-1 Military and Federal. Oh I found the Red on the second tab when I bring up the legend it says red is Urban, the tan brown is AG. White is Parcel, Dark green is o, light green is conservation Maybe the simple solution is to get BOTH the US Govertment permission, since according to taxes records (legal documents) they own it AND the State of Hawii or whoever the current leasee is. There for there is no question. Be mindful according to the site the last real property transfer occured on 12/25/05 For those of us outside the state the issue is that if we happened along this cache and we got caught on the land and it really is and being used by say the NG (which is military) we could get in big trouble. Link to comment
+Team GeoBlast Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Why? Your questions appear off-topic and personal in nature. I'm asking you why you started this thread. How on topic can a question be? The truth is that it becomes a bit uncomfortable when someone asks you simple questions about your own actions doesn't it Ed? Everything seems to be fine when it is you jumping on everyone else. There's 1000's of caches in Hawaii, if it is the fact that "it's the cache and not the owner" that bothers you so much, how did -this particular one- come to bother you so much? Tell me again that this doesn't have -anything- to do with the ongoing beef you are having with this cache owner? Link to comment
+CamoCacher Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 I will agree with Team Geoblas on one thing...why this cache since there are 2 other caches in this immediate area? Use waypoint: GCNMMC Use waypoint: GCP2WH Neither of which are the owner of the cache you are taking issue with Link to comment
salmoned Posted January 20, 2006 Author Share Posted January 20, 2006 (edited) I have one good reason why I haven't included those other caches - they are not overtly posted with "No Trespassing" signs. Yes, they are on property still titled to the US government, but without the signs, the case is weakened. Also, they are on property that was previously base housing (now leveled), with no known hazards. I have previously commented on all 3 caches (in one of my deleted posts), but focused on this one, as it is the most egregious violation. Geoblast, if you really need an answer to that question here it is - for the umpteenth time - The cache violates the rules in a manner prejudicial to the geocaching activity. I hope you got it this time... Edited January 20, 2006 by edchen Link to comment
+Quiggle Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 At this point you guys may need to take it to email, private messages, your own local forums, or wherever. If you would like to continue discussing property issues and personal matters, please do so using other means. From the Forum Guidelines: Keep on topic: Responses to a particular thread should be on-topic and pertain to the discussion. Users should use the New Topic button to start a new discussion which would otherwise be off-topic in the current thread. Threads that are off topic may be closed by the moderator. Private Discussions: Sometimes, a discussion thread strays off into a friendly dialogue or a heated debate among a very small number of users. For these exchanges, use the private discussion feature that is provided through the Groundspeak forums, or the Geocaching.com e-mail system. Public forum posts should be reserved for matters of interest to the general community. It seems the point of the original question was answered and now the topic has dissolved into finger pointing from all sides, and in all directions. The cache has been reported to Geocaching.com, including the reviewer who published the cache. Closing topic. Link to comment
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