+tozainamboku Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Ed Scott and many others pride themselves on finding caches without a GPSr. Using a detailed enough map they can navigate with a compass to get just as close to the cache as with a GPSr. I've done a few urban caches like this and often it is more accurate than using a GPSr. The guideline is not meant to prevent cachers who want to from finding a cache without a GPSr. The guidelines do require that "... the owner of the cache must visit the site and obtain the coordinates with a GPS", but I would guess that if you don't mention otherwise, the approvers will assume this is the case. If you're descrete about it, you can probably hide a cache without a GPSr as well. The guideline being discussed is GPS usage is an essential element of geocaching. Therefore, although it is possible to find a cache without a GPS, the option of using accurate GPS coordinates as an integral part of the cache hunt must be demonstrated for all physical cache submissions. The issue is not whether AZBliss02's cache would be fun to do, or whether is is better than a lame micro. The issue is whether or not the option of using accurate GPS coordinates as a integral part of the cache hunt has been demonstrated. It seems that, in this case, it has not been demonstrated. If the library was like K0BKL's park that was hard to find without a GPSr because it lacked signage and was hard to spot the driveway, a case could be made that knowing the GPS coordinates is a integral part of the hunt. Note that the guideline says nothing about using a GPSr to find a cache. Only that accurate GPS coordinates be a part of the hunt. My only objection to the guideline is that determining the need to use accurate GPS coordinates is subjective. Also, what about caches that are placed where accurate coordinate can't be obtained? How accurate must the coordinates be? Quote Link to comment
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