+Lt. Sniper Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I remember once reading that common LCD displays shouldnt be put into freezing condidtions as they would distroy the liquid in the display. It appears now that a couple of yellow etrex's may have been improperly stored for the winter months at a summer camp I was working at. Is it likely that they will survive the winter? They would have been stored inside a building and wouldnt have come into contact with snow or water directly (I hope). The area the camp was in was about 2 hours out of NY and near the cat skill mountains. Quote Link to comment
+Klemmer Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 (edited) Keep your fingers crossed, or better yet rescue them. A cold snap below -30°F or so could permanently damage the LCD's. Although I THINK monochrome screens are less likely to be damaged, compared to color ones. I have SEEN a commercial color LCD display damaged at -40°F in a test. It wasn't pretty. It's just the temperature, not snow, ice, or whatever, and of course, the infamous "wind chill factor" is irrelevant. Edited January 4, 2006 by Klemmer & TeddyBearMama Quote Link to comment
+krisse Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Would be interesting to know what the safe limit is.. Quote Link to comment
+Klemmer Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 My gut feeling ("engineering judgement" if I was getting paid for it) is between -30° and -40° for color displays. The exact temp would depend on the manufacturer of the display, how it was made, etc. This is just storage, power off. Quote Link to comment
+Reved Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I have used a Garmin eMap on my sled for 3 winters with no ill effects. I've had the screen turn black and not work. But once inside and warmed up all was well. That was in the -40c range. Man thats cold on a sled. Quote Link to comment
+Sputnik 57 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 From the Garmin 60CS manual Operating Range: 5 to 158°F (-15 to 70°C). Users have reported -20° or -30°, but I would think most users keep them inside coats in those extreme conditions most of the time. Quote Link to comment
+HaLiJuSaPa Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Well, even -20 is somewhat rare in the Catskill Mountains, but you never know, so cross your fingers. Quote Link to comment
stevesisti Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 I remember once reading that common LCD displays shouldnt be put into freezing condidtions as they would distroy the liquid in the display. It appears now that a couple of yellow etrex's may have been improperly stored for the winter months at a summer camp I was working at. Is it likely that they will survive the winter? They would have been stored inside a building and wouldnt have come into contact with snow or water directly (I hope). The area the camp was in was about 2 hours out of NY and near the cat skill mountains. I wouldn't worry about it in the Catskills...-20 is extremely rare for that area, and even if it did go that low, averaged out with the daytime highs, I doubt the inside of the building would get anywhere near the outside low. Quote Link to comment
+Blaidd-Drwg Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 As just a curiousity, when I was stationed in Korea we had small computers that were left in vehicles with temps below zero. Basically, they would freeze up and not display anything until the internal heater warmed them up. I doulbt that your GPSr will be ruined. Quote Link to comment
+JDandDD Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 I would doubt that you unit would be ruined though all liquids will eventually freeze at some point. The biggest issue is the amount of power required to drive the screen. Generally, the lower the temperature the greater the voltage required to drive the screen. At some point, and it will be in your manual, you'll hit the operating limit which really means the voltage available can't drive the screen. Warm it up and the batteries will be able to drive the screen again. JDandDD Quote Link to comment
+Lone Duck Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 I have left my GPS III+ out in the vehicle in all sorts of temperatures, never a problem with the LCD. I don't think it's ever been exposed to freezing temps lower than - 15 F in all that time. When the GPS does chill to below freezing temps the screen might display dimly, or not at all until it warms up. Even then it might be slow until the innards warm up more. Quote Link to comment
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