+Isonzo Karst Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 I recently placed a cache in a nifty location. When I first started caching, there was an ammo can hide there. It's been archived about a year and a half. I placed mine and the very first finder found not only my hide, but the original ammo can (somewhat displaced from its original locale). I offered to archive my hide in favor of the original, but the owner (no longer active) said no, and offered me that can, if I could find it. Find it I did. That area was massively underwater in the late summer of 04 and very wet, if not so flooded, again this summer. Can was absolutely dry inside. Quote Link to comment
+whistler & co. Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 We found one that had been through a recent brush fire, and both the can and contents were completely intact. If only it didn't smell so gross insdie that indoor flea market on Route 6, we too could have durable ammo cans for our hides, but aaaak...the air in that place could gag a maggot! Quote Link to comment
+New England n00b Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Properly done, ammo cans are great. All my hides are ammo cans. OK, I only have one find, but no ammo can I've found (that I recall) has had a problem. Quote Link to comment
+Jennifer&Dean Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 We had one change position about 50 feet during a flood and still be completely dry inside when I finally found it. We found one which had been through a forest fire and was destroyed. The heat had been enough to cause the logbook to burn inside of it and the expanding ?gasses? had burst out violently. Very cool to find but sad. -J Quote Link to comment
Hugh Jazz Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Further proof that the Ammo can is nature's ideal cache container. You don't realize how good these are until you visit a cache where the owner didn't have the courtesy to deploy an Ammo can. The Ammo can is the only proper cache container. All others are inferior and should be replaced. The cache reviewers should have this as one of their guidelines for approving a cache. Caches not deploying Ammo cans should simply no longer be approved. There should be a checkbox at the bottom of the cache listing when you submit it: [] Do you agree to the TOU? [] No, I mean it, do you *really* agree to the TOU? [] Did you place this cache using an Ammo Can? You'd have to check all three before your cache listing could be published. Quote Link to comment
+DocDiTTo Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Further proof that the Ammo can is nature's ideal cache container. You don't realize how good these are until you visit a cache where the owner didn't have the courtesy to deploy an Ammo can. The Ammo can is the only proper cache container. All others are inferior and should be replaced. The cache reviewers should have this as one of their guidelines for approving a cache. Caches not deploying Ammo cans should simply no longer be approved. There should be a checkbox at the bottom of the cache listing when you submit it: [] Do you agree to the TOU? [] No, I mean it, do you *really* agree to the TOU? [] Did you place this cache using an Ammo Can? You'd have to check all three before your cache listing could be published. I know you jest, but I dream of such a time... Quote Link to comment
+trail hound Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 A cache in my area (GCP42Y) Was an ammo can that was submerged under about 10 feet of water...It was attached to a tree by a chain and anchored to the bottom of a lake. The contents inside were completly dry!!!!! Quote Link to comment
Team Firebird Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Before I hid my cache, I tested my ammo can by spraying it with a pressure washer, accidentily dropping it onto a concrete pathway from our 20 ft high deck, and then finaly submerged it in a bathtub for a month (accidently left it there on vacation). It only had one scratch, wich I covered up with a nice shiny Official Geocache stiker. Wow. Quote Link to comment
+olbluesguy Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 I have an amo can cacheBox Of Blues. near the Susquehanna river that was taken by the floods fromHurricane Ivan. I found it a good distance away tangled up in a pile of downed trees in perfect condition. Before I got around to securing it to a tree the next flood took it. Now it's a mortar case secured to a tree. Quote Link to comment
ProfessorFlight Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Greetings… I like the 30 cal and 50 cal ammo cans. I use them both. Any cache we have found in ammo cans have been in great shape. I cannot say much for the Tupperware caches (cracked, broken, chewed through or the covers are off). I am sure you know this but I am going to list it here for those who may not know: A simple dryer sheet (the cheaper the better) placed in your cache will help keep it smelling fresh and will keep it critter proof. (We put them in our storage containers at our Scout Camp). Happy Holidays from the Flight Family. Cheers, ProfessorFlight Quote Link to comment
+5¢ Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Ammo can? Is that like one of those things the film comes in? We call them film canisters around here. Quote Link to comment
+Runfrog Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Ammo cans are underrated. If they still have their seal in good shape they can last for a good long while under some varying and extreme conditions. One local cacher here in Delaware, Mike Ott, has a cache called "Islands In The Stream", GCG1ZP, and as the name implies it is on an island in a stream. The amazing thing is that its survived several floods, one an extreme one where it was under atleast 6-8 ft of angry water, its been frozen, snowed on and survived the heat as well. And, the little ammo can survives. The only thing, I can think of, that will ruin it will be the day the tree its strapped to by a cable washes away, then it will be a traveling cache. Quote Link to comment
+AtoZ Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 LOL, I did a rappel off a 70 foot cliff to find an ammo can pinned in a crack about 25 feet down the cliff. When I opened it it hissed at me, the ammo can was pressurized from the mostiure vaporized in it, and the contents were damp to wet. So I guess it is the luck of the draw. cheers Quote Link to comment
Fenderstrat72 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 (edited) It should be no suprise the lowly ammo can does so well. Look at it's intended use, to keep ammo dry and serviceable in austre conditions. Edited December 21, 2005 by Fenderstrat72 Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 My ammo can caches have survived under many extreme circumstances. One was underwater for 2 months (broken canal). Another sits under 10 - 15 feet of snow for 9 months a year. Others in trees and open places , One got buried under 4 feet of mud in a landslide. All stay nice and dry and safe. Amazing things. Just check and clean the seal once in a while. Quote Link to comment
+vanman_30 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Bummer about ammo cans in Michigan, the DNR has decided that they don't like em and "ask" that they all are removed and no new ammo cans are used. Guess they want everything to be a clear container. I hate that rule...... Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Bummer about ammo cans in Michigan, the DNR has decided that they don't like em and "ask" that they all are removed and no new ammo cans are used. Guess they want everything to be a clear container. I hate that rule...... On the other hand, NY state parks require an animial resistant container with a latching device on the lid, which means - ammo can! Quote Link to comment
+Kit Fox Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 I use ammo cans and decon containers for replacement and all my new cache hides. Ammo cans are also the only containers that can withstand Rule #9 Quote Link to comment
+GrnXnham Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 A simple dryer sheet (the cheaper the better) placed in your cache will help keep it smelling fresh and will keep it critter proof. (We put them in our storage containers at our Scout Camp). I LOVE ammo cans. Most of our caches are ammo cans. I wish that all regular sized caches were ammo cans But you got me curious here: How does a dryer sheet make my ammo can "critter proof?" Other than maybe a bear, not many animals can get inside an ammo can. And the smell of a dryer sheet simply isn't nasty enough to drive away animals. In fact, I would guess some animals might even be attracted to it. Are you talking about insects? A dryer sheet won't drive them away. You need something like mothballs for that. Quote Link to comment
+Team Tigger International Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Bummer about ammo cans in Michigan, the DNR has decided that they don't like em and "ask" that they all are removed and no new ammo cans are used. Guess they want everything to be a clear container. I hate that rule...... Lok n Loks! Not as good as an ammo can, but it's hard to put the lid on wrong.<g> Wulf Quote Link to comment
ProfessorFlight Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 But you got me curious here: How does a dryer sheet make my ammo can "critter proof?" oops! I should have included the words Tupperware Container in there. We put them in our Tupperware trunks at camp to keep critters out. They work great for mice, squirrels, chipmunks and other chewing critters. As far as Bigger Critters – we use mothballs. And for BIG Critters – we let them take anything they want. Happy Holidays. Quote Link to comment
+Robespierre Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 In my opinion I can...........a.) spend $1.50 for fake tw and worry, or I can spend $2.79 for the ammo can and relax. Quote Link to comment
+VegasCacheHounds Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Ypu mean to tell me that people still use ammo cans? I thought that the only caches hid were micros anymore. Huh, must just be here in Dallas. And they say everythings bigger in Texas. Okay, I have found a couple of ammo cans here in Texas, but nothing like the number of ones out in the Nevada desert. Heck, if a cache can sit out in that desert for years and be fine, that says something for the durability of an ammo can. Speaking of ammo cans, I just got one as a Christmas gift from a fellow cacher, complete with log book, travel bugs, trade swag, info sheet and cache sticker. How cool is that?! Quote Link to comment
+BigWhiteTruck Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 LOL, I did a rappel off a 70 foot cliff to find an ammo can pinned in a crack about 25 feet down the cliff. When I opened it it hissed at me, the ammo can was pressurized from the mostiure vaporized in it, and the contents were damp to wet. So I guess it is the luck of the draw.cheers WHERE? Quote Link to comment
+New England n00b Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 LOL, I did a rappel off a 70 foot cliff to find an ammo can pinned in a crack about 25 feet down the cliff. When I opened it it hissed at me, the ammo can was pressurized from the mostiure vaporized in it, and the contents were damp to wet. So I guess it is the luck of the draw.cheers WHERE? WHY? <-Acrophobic Quote Link to comment
+4leafclover Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 LOL, I did a rappel off a 70 foot cliff to find an ammo can pinned in a crack about 25 feet down the cliff. When I opened it it hissed at me, the ammo can was pressurized from the mostiure vaporized in it, and the contents were damp to wet. So I guess it is the luck of the draw.cheers WHERE? WHY? <-Acrophobic <--- no acrobat, here, either. Quote Link to comment
+AtoZ Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Bummer about ammo cans in Michigan, the DNR has decided that they don't like em and "ask" that they all are removed and no new ammo cans are used. Guess they want everything to be a clear container. I hate that rule...... I guess the alternative is BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! cheers Quote Link to comment
+VegasCacheHounds Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 LOL, I did a rappel off a 70 foot cliff to find an ammo can pinned in a crack about 25 feet down the cliff. When I opened it it hissed at me, the ammo can was pressurized from the mostiure vaporized in it, and the contents were damp to wet. So I guess it is the luck of the draw.cheers WHERE? WHY? <-Acrophobic Why? Because its fun! I'd love to do a cache like that, and at one point was in the planning stages to hide a cache like that. Unforunatly, I had to nix that plan as I moved. Quote Link to comment
+VegasCacheHounds Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Back on the subject of ammo cans, one of my desert caches has been active from over three years now, and is doing great. Heres a picture of it, and the location: Quote Link to comment
Hugh Jazz Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Back on the subject of ammo cans, one of my desert caches has been active from over three years now, and is doing great. Heres a picture of it, and the location: I have seen this type of ammo can at my local surplus yard, and wondered how well they stood up to the elements. I may have to buy some now. I like that paint scheme. Quote Link to comment
+VegasCacheHounds Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Back on the subject of ammo cans, one of my desert caches has been active from over three years now, and is doing great. Heres a picture of it, and the location: I have seen this type of ammo can at my local surplus yard, and wondered how well they stood up to the elements. I may have to buy some now. I like that paint scheme. Thanks! I've seen a few of those style ammo cans out in the desert, and they all seem to hold up great. i don't know if they're as water resistant as the metal ones, but based off of the seals I'd think they would be. Plus, even though it is the desert, there can be some heavy rain, and there has been no water in that cache yet <knock on wood> Quote Link to comment
+WalruZ Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 As I have stated elsewhere, ammo cans should *not* be used for urban or suburban hides. Their appearance is very threatening. Earlier this year I was caching in Modesto and found an ammo can stuck in some landscaping next to a power substation. THAT was smart. I emailed the owner and he reworked the cache. They had just had an incident where the police were called out because of cammo'd tupperware next to a school, and he didn't want to go down that same road. Also, as i have stated in my local forums, some of the oldest caches I've ever found have been plain white-capped rubbermaid. Indeed, the oldest surviving geocache (GC8) is rubbermaid. Don't knock it. Quote Link to comment
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