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For those that print out cache pages, printing it in PDF is now an option. Good job.

 

 

 

 

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Side effect of rendering HTML to put into a PDF. I'll take a look at see what I can do about it.

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I noticed something. If you hit the link for decrypting the hint on the cache's page, then go to the Print Friendly version, the hint is decrypted. But if you hit the decrypt link, then open the PDF version of the cache page, the hint is still encrypted. Not sure if that was by design. Storage of both encrypted and decrypted versions of cache PDFs on Groundspeak's servers could be too much. The PDF for one of my caches was 940K when I downloaded it. Otherwise, I like how everything's laid out on the page, along with the option to display 0, 5, or 10 logs. Those "Geocaching Adventure Logs" on the final page will make for nice emergency logsheets when you come across a cache in distress.

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Ok.. I fixed the listing from post #2. I'll being writing up a FAQ about that when I get a chance.

 

The issue with the hints not being decrypted I'll start working on.

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Ugh.. long descriptions!

 

I'll work on that. As far as margins go.. try printing it out. I've printed it out on two printers here at work and its done just fine. It just looks close on the PDF itself. Let me know.

 

-Raine

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Of course A4 is longer the US Letter so the output would not print on printers with US Letter size :)

 

So leaving it at Letter size should work for all :)

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Ugh.. long descriptions!

Given the fact that this is a bilingula description it is rather short!

 

For longer descriptions, have a look here (just two standard examples, nothing extraordinary):

Cheap TB

A Walk to the Past

 

Thanks,

BalkanSabranje

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Of course A4 is longer the US Letter so the output would not print on printers with US Letter size :)

 

So leaving it at Letter size should work for all :)

Not a bad argument; if only, printing out the pfds would be rather invconvenient for most (=the rest) of the world, though. :D

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Right clicking "Save File As...." works fine in Internet Explorer, but not Firefox.

With Firefox it saves the extention as .aspx

Might not be much you can do about that, could just be a Firefox issue.

 

I'll be printing a few for my next caching day out.

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right click and "open in new window" works fine in firefox.

 

(open in new tab also works)

 

Edit again to add that Save As... also works in Firefox for me.

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Ugh.. long descriptions!

 

I'll work on that.  As far as margins go.. try printing it out.  I've printed it out on two printers here at work and its done just fine.  It just looks close on the PDF itself.  Let me know.

 

-Raine

When printing a cache, on the first page, the margin is on the left and on the second page, the margin is on the right. :)

 

As for the PDF idea, this is awesome

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When printing a cache, on the first page, the margin is on the left and on the second page, the margin is on the right. :)

It's designed to be printed double-sided and 3-hole-punched on one side, so those margins make sense :)

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Thanks! This came along just in time for me, I'm going to St. Martin for the holidays, and will be bringing the pdf printouts as a backup...I'll bring back some sand and sun, and send it to you guys at Groundspeak...

 

jamie

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Of course A4 is longer the US Letter so the output would not print on printers with US Letter size ;)

 

So leaving it at Letter size should work for all ;)

Well, no. A4 (210 mm x 297 mm) is narrower than US letter (8.5 inches x 11 inches), so letter-size pages are truncated on the right when printed on A4 paper (unless you select the shrink-to-fit option.)

 

In my products, we have to provide separate support for printing in letter size and in A4 size.

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In the new print-friendly format (not the .PDF file, just a cache page with &pf=y), the icon to the left of "Make this page print-friendly" uses img src=printer.gif.gif and gets a 404 error. It wants the extra .gif to be removed.

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What is truncated on the page when printed on a A4 and.. does it look ok when you select the shrink to fit option?

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I'm not seeing any images not showing up on the &pf=y page.

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I printed out the .pdf for one of my own caches, and I'm baffled. How is this supposed to be folded? If I fold along the "fold" line with the first page facing up, the second page is now on the inside and the third page is on the second sheet. To read page four, I have to go back to the first sheet. Seems to me the punch holes should be in the middle of the paper, so the sheets open somewhat like a book. Now the sheets have to fold out.

 

Also, the decryption key is printed twice, once on each page.

 

This looks like a promising feature, even if I don't plan to use it very much... but for the life of me I can't figure out how it's supposed to be laid out.

 

Jamie

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I can't read mine - there is a big gray frog on the pages

 

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I can't read mine - there is a big gray frog on the pages

 

cc\

I assume you have a PDF reader installed e.g Adobe Acrobat Reader?

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I can't read mine - there is a big gray frog on the pages

 

cc\

I had the same thing happen in Evince on Linux (giant Signal head in the center of the page blocks the text), while in Preview in OSX, the Signal on the last few pages turns into a large, grey box. On the official Adobe reader, it displays fine.

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I can't read  mine - there is a big gray frog on the pages

 

cc\

I assume you have a PDF reader installed e.g Adobe Acrobat Reader?

 

oh ya! 7.0

 

cc\

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I would suggest removing the background frog images (all of them). They bloat the file enormously. I edited the file with Adobe Acrobat to remove these and the file went from being 1 meg to 147k.

 

I also don't see the use for the last page. Even if there is some sort of compelling reason, I'd would rather NOT have that page attached to each cache page. There is enough room on the first page (e.g. the hint area) for notes.

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I would suggest removing the background frog images (all of them). They bloat the file enormously. I edited the file with Adobe Acrobat to remove these and the file went from being 1 meg to 147k.

 

I also don't see the use for the last page. Even if there is some sort of compelling reason, I'd would rather NOT have that page attached to each cache page. There is enough room on the first page (e.g. the hint area) for notes.

Well, considering that Groundspeak have to add additional pages anyway (longer descriptions), it would be a compromise to add this last page only if the other pages with the description add to an odd number; thus, the last page of a doublesided printout would not be blank but somehow preformatted.

 

Oh, and I second the opinion that the background pics should be removed.

 

BalkanSabranje

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Some comments:

 

The PDF file converts a quote (") into a code (&quot).

Also, codes like <br> show up in the HTML-parts of the page.

 

Pictures either do not show up on the PDF or they become truncated.

 

I tried this for my cache:

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?wp=GCQF45

 

Suggestion: remove the option 'PDF printout' from the print-friendly page. It takes up space, and by switching to the print-friendly page I'm trying to only get the necessary information out of my printer.

 

Question: why would I prefer a PDF printout over a normal cache printout?

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One important issue: The title got corrupt if Umlauts and other symbols are being used in the name of the cache

"Burgen & Schlösser #4 - Rolandsbogen" translates to

Burgen & Schl& # 246;sser - Rolandsbogen

 

And, what a amount of data is created!!! 2,5Mbyte for a simple cache page w logs! perhaps thats the explanation for the PM-feature: So that the traffic is not too high <_<

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I can't read  mine - there is a big gray frog on the pages

 

cc\

I assume you have a PDF reader installed e.g Adobe Acrobat Reader?

LOl..frog..I thought you said fog..muhaha . Poor old Signal.

 

 

In terms of folding these, I assume that they should get folded "down" so that Signal's butt is on the flipside. Maybe glue or staple the sheet in this fashion..or I assume print double sided so that the log/note sheets are on the inside when it is folded like this.

 

I quite like them, I still think that the GSAK "condensed html" output is the best solution for the quick prints before you go out..I use Cachemate but still print out the planned caches so that other people can read the sheets..the Palm is there for any unexpected diversions.

 

Yeh, the file sizes should be reduced.

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Oh, and I second the opinion that the background pics should be removed.

I third this suggestion. Here's what it looks like on my computer, on which I don't use the official, bloated Adobe Reader software (as mentioned in my post above). I thought it was kinda funny to find a huge, smiling Signal face blocking my view of the data, but it makes the printout useless.

 

779d8e80-5035-4cf8-97cb-0abb63e973aa.jpg

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Hah! I would say subliminal marketing, but erm thats in yer face!

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Well.. by not using the "bloated" reader the alpha transparency gets ignored.. sounds like an issue with you reader though. I've added it to my list of things to do...

 

-Raine

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Well.. by not using the "bloated" reader the alpha transparency gets ignored.. sounds like an issue with you reader though. I've added it to my list of things to do...

 

-Raine

Most likely it is. I just don't like the Adobe software because it's huge (about 100 MB when installed just to view files), plus it's slower. But the Signal graphics on the last page (I didn't include them in the screenshot) are transparent and display perfectly well, so there could be something different about the two graphics.

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Only 1.78 megs now with the recent change. Raine also added A4 printing for those pages outside of the US.

 

The removal of the signal graphic helps to limit the file size now.

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The removal of the signal graphic helps to limit the file size now.

I'm still seeing that large, ghostly face of Signal... I guess it takes a few minutes for the files to regenerate...?

 

edit: okay, it's gone now. Spooky... :wacko:

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I still haven't figured out how these should be folded for display. The pages seem all out of order and no matter which way I fold the sheets, they're never in any sort of order.

 

Jamie

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Best i got so far ...printing double sided, but with the holepunches lined up the log sheets are upside down in relation to the front sheets

 

 

Image057-730763.jpg

 

Image055-734141.jpg

 

:wacko:

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This should help in the folding department

 

howto3-vi.gif

 

As far as double sided.. try flipping the paper and putting it back in to your printer.. You don't have to print two pieces of paper and staple them together.. just use one!

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This should help in the folding department

 

 

As far as double sided.. try flipping the paper and putting it back in to your printer.. You don't have to print two pieces of paper and staple them together.. just use one!

(these forums are almost unusable..took me 5 goes before I didnt timeout)

 

Yeh, I know that... I just couldn't be bothered to print on two sides . Even if I had, the hole punches just won't match up on either side unless the logsheet part is printed upside down compared to the front.

 

Or are the logsheets just meant to be a completely separate thang :wacko: ?

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They can be.. just don't print it out if you don't need it.

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They can be.. just don't print it out if you don't need it.

For the folks that use a full size binder, can we get that print option?

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They can be.. just don't print it out if you don't need it.

For the folks that use a full size binder, can we get that print option?

Mini-binders will be sold soon in the GC.com store :wacko:

 

:(:)

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This should help in the folding department

 

As far as double sided.. try flipping the paper and putting it back in to your printer.. You don't have to print two pieces of paper and staple them together.. just use one!

Thanks for the image... it confirmed that I'm folding the sheet the right way (as if there are any other ways...), but I still don't understand how it's supposed to be viewed. If I fold it as shown and then put it in a binder, page one of the cache page is on the front, as expected. But page two is now on the inside of that fold, so I have to unfold and flip the page in order to read page two. Page three is on the front of the next paper. To read page four I'd have to re-fold the first sheet again and then to get page five I have to un-fold it one more time.

 

It just seems all out of order to me. As it is, I don't use cache printouts very often, so this is a minor issue to me, but since the feature was offered I thought I'd give it a try.

 

And I already have a two-sided printer, so there's no issue there.

 

Jamie

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More often then not you'll find a cache who's description will fit on just one page.. so you won't have need for the other side of the print out. There's where the beauty lies in this system.

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More often then not you'll find a cache who's description will fit on just one page.. so you won't have need for the other side of the print out. There's where the beauty lies in this system.

Ahhh... so that's where I'm erring. Thanks.

 

Jamie

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Well.. by not using the "bloated" reader the alpha transparency gets ignored.. sounds like an issue with you reader though. I've added it to my list of things to do...

 

-Raine

 

well that is just exactly as it looked on my system with the bloated reader!

 

not a background image at all - it is a frontground image

 

cc\

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