+Right Wing Wacko Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 1. Set a flag that a bug is a personal TB. When logging caches automatically drop the bug copying the cache log (or making a pointer to the original log). The bug would automatically be retreived for the next cache. 2. Like Cache Logs, only display the last five logs unless the user specifically asks for all logs. I've had to archive my original personal TB and to go a second... something I would have prefered not to do. I will soon have to do it again! After a few hundred logs... it takes FOREVER for the TB page to come up... even with Broadband. Logging from a dialup while out of town is not even possible due to the long delays. Link to comment
+DavidMac Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 One way I've found to get around the slowness is to keep a bookmark on my computer directly to the log page. This skips loading the TB page and goes directly to the log entry. Mine looks like this: http://www.geocaching.com/track/log.aspx?w...96-e9f438b725d1 Link to comment
+planetrobert Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 here is a fun idea... save the page at a test as htlm and see how big it is. my personal TB page is like 750+K that is nearly 3/4MB i wist a tb page would show the latest 5 logs by default. Link to comment
Deego Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 here is a fun idea... save the page at a test as htlm and see how big it is. my personal TB page is like 750+K that is nearly 3/4MB i wist a tb page would show the latest 5 logs by default. yep it is big . I always delete my pick up log and I only book it into 1 cache per day spent caching so mine is not too bad. It would be better to see it like the cache pages, with the last 5 default Link to comment
+Right Wing Wacko Posted December 9, 2005 Author Share Posted December 9, 2005 Like you, I only leave one log per cache find. The rest are deleted. My FIRST personal TB's page is 1290KB. My second one is up to 593kb and growing. Link to comment
+MeIsMook Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 What about a new type of travel bug just for logging miles, which is what most personal TB's are for.....? When activating a TB what about being able to choose if its a traditional/ordinary bug or a personal/mile logging bug? Link to comment
+CYBret Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 (edited) I'm sorry, but personal travel bugs always look like a lot of work to me.....you log em in, out....make sure the date is right...and if you start late in the game (with a bunch of finds already) you have to go back and log them in and out of the caches you've already found. Wouldn't it be easier for Geocaching.com to just make cachers "trackable?" The functionality is already there for the bugs, how about making it a premium feature that we can see how many miles we've personally traveled while caching? Would this put more stress on the system or remove the stress caused by logging bugs in/out? Bret Edited December 10, 2005 by CYBret Link to comment
+fizzymagic Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Of course, all this trouble would be trivially fixed if you could enter the time of your finds instead of only the date... Link to comment
+Kai Team Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 I'm sorry, but personal travel bugs always look like a lot of work to me.....you log em in, out....make sure the date is right...and if you start late in the game (with a bunch of finds already) you have to go back and log them in and out of the caches you've already found. Wouldn't it be easier for Geocaching.com to just make cachers "trackable?" The functionality is already there for the bugs, how about making it a premium feature that we can see how many miles we've personally traveled while caching? Would this put more stress on the system or remove the stress caused by logging bugs in/out? Bret My thoughts exactly - personal TB's are a user attempt to add a feature that doesn't exist. No matter how much it's tweaked, it's still a work-around. Much better to add functionality to track a cacher's mileage and eliminate the need for personal TB's. This would be easer for those who want to track their mileage and would eliminate the personal TB clutter on cache pages (e.g. duplicate logs for PTB's that are often out of sequence and add no useful information for anyone but the personal TB owner, especialy when someone decides to add a PTB after they have 200 finds. ). GC.com already tracks a user's finds in date order, so it would seem the site overhead would be the same as viewing (or mapping) a PTB's history - it might even reduce site overhead by trading an inelegant solution for one designed for the purpose. I'm not sure about making it a premium feature, since that would not eliminate PTB's for non-premium members (i.e. they would still clutter the cache logs). Link to comment
+Kai Team Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Of course, all this trouble would be trivially fixed if you could enter the time of your finds instead of only the date... Good point. Link to comment
+MeIsMook Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Oh don't get me wrong I hate Personal TB's........ People, Cars, Animals........and anything else for that matter than isn't left in the a cache but just dropped and picked up.....what is the point? I just thought a mile logger would be a better description of what it was a personal TB was. I would just allow a bug to be moved one cache at a time by one person and that would be the end of it once and for all. Link to comment
+Kai Team Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Oh don't get me wrong I hate Personal TB's........ <snip> I just thought a mile logger would be a better description of what it was a personal TB was. I agree that your idea is better than what we have now - I don't hate PTB's, just think there's a better solution for the purpose that PTB's now serve. Link to comment
+nfa Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 (edited) Oh don't get me wrong I hate Personal TB's........ People, Cars, Animals........and anything else for that matter than isn't left in the a cache but just dropped and picked up.....what is the point? I just thought a mile logger would be a better description of what it was a personal TB was. I would just allow a bug to be moved one cache at a time by one person and that would be the end of it once and for all. What is a Groundspeak Travel Bug? Simply put, a Groundspeak Travel Bug is a trackable tag that you attach to an item. This allows you to track your item on Geocaching.com. The item becomes a hitchhiker that is carried from cache to cache (or person to person) in the real world and you can follow its progress online. My personal TB is attached to an item, I track it on gc.com, it is carried from cache to cache, and anyone on earth can follow its progress online...here What does a Travel Bug do? It's really up to the owner of the bug to give it whatever task they desire. Or no task at all. The fun of a travel bug is inventing new goals for the Travel Bug to achieve. One Bug's goal may be to reach a specific country, or travel to 10 countries. I gave it a task that I desired for it...see here The "point" is that I paid for the TB, and use it within the posted guidelines...if it seems silly or pointless to you...don't have one. I don't mean to unload on anyone, but personal TBs have been mentioned along with so-called "Virtual TBs" in a number of threads lately, and while I ave no problem with VTBs going away, I would hate for PTBs to be painted with the same brush. Have a nice weekend, jamie Edited December 10, 2005 by NFA Link to comment
+Kai Team Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 The "point" is that I paid for the TB, and use it within the posted guidelines...if it seems silly or pointless to you...don't have one. I don't mean to unload on anyone, but personal TBs have been mentioned along with so-called "Virtual TBs" in a number of threads lately, and while I ave no problem with VTBs going away, I would hate for PTBs to be painted with the same brush. Have a nice weekend, jamie Jamie, PTB's don't seem pointless to me - I get the point, and would have one myself, except for two things: 1) Maintaining a PTB seems like a lot of work, especially if you start one after you have a number of finds (which most people do) and you want to go back and update your PTB mileage. 2) I don't like superfluous logs on caches because they take up space - online, in my PDA, in print outs, etc - and add no useful information regarding the cache for the cache owner or others seeking or finding the cache. "Updating Personal TB" is the most frequent superfluous log I see - I'd like to eliminate those logs, not the PTB's (or their function for those who have them); If gc.com automatically provided the ability to track your travels from cache to cache, including mileage, maps and public display (through your profile) without the need for a PTB, I don't see what would be lost except those superfluous logs! . If cachers want to carry an object around with them, post a picture of it on their profile, etc, they could do all that without PTB's. Can you say what would be lost for you if gc.com automatically tracked your travels as if you were a PTB? Link to comment
+MeIsMook Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 (edited) Yeah thats a better idea....... provide a link like the one on the TB (that lets you look at the map on google earth) to track your travels. There would be IMO no need for PTB's then. Edited December 11, 2005 by MeIsMook Link to comment
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