+JMBella Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 (edited) *This is not the pre-order thread.* These coins will be available for pre-order this afternoon, Friday Dec. 2 at 4:00PM PST on EBAY. Title of listing: Limited Edition Lighthouse Series Geocoins. They will be listed as a Dutch, "Buy It Now" auction. This is being done for inventory control so we don't sell more coins than we are having minted. Only 400 of these coins will ever be minted. 100 gold and 300 bronze. The front features a 3D rendering of the Montauk Point Lighthouse in Long Island, New York. The back features the Atlantic Geocachers Association Logo. (AtlanticGeocachers.com) They will be trackable on geocaching.com and have their own icon! Prices are: Gold $10.00 - Limit 2 per buyer (93 available) Bonze $8.50 - Limit 3 per buyer (292 available) Here is a rendering which is subject to minor changes. Front: Back: Edited December 2, 2005 by JMBella Quote Link to comment
+Ladycacher Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 So to make sure, 6pm central right? Just want to make sure. Quote Link to comment
+MO Outdoorfamily Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 So to make sure, 6pm central right? Just want to make sure. Sounds right to me Quote Link to comment
+JMBella Posted December 2, 2005 Author Share Posted December 2, 2005 So to make sure, 6pm central right? Just want to make sure. You got it. 4:00 PST 5:00 MST 6:00 CST 7:00 EST Quote Link to comment
+FlyinV Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Was beginning to wonder what we were gonna do this afternoon... now we know! Quote Link to comment
+Ladycacher Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 (edited) I also wanted to add that I think this is a good idea for selling coins and keeping control. My question is (since I do not and have never bought a dutch auction) will both coins be for sale on the same auction? Or will there be two different auctions seeing there are two different metals? Edited December 2, 2005 by Ladycacher & Boys Quote Link to comment
+JMBella Posted December 2, 2005 Author Share Posted December 2, 2005 I also wanted to add that I think this is a good idea for selling coins and keeping control. My question is (since I do not and have never bought a dutch auction) will both coins be for sale on the same auction? Or will there be two different auctions seeing there are two different metals? 2 different auctions. Quote Link to comment
+Ladycacher Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I was wondering....thanks! Quote Link to comment
+AtlantaGal Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 It's a great idea for inventory control. It's just too bad about all the fees... listing fee, closing fee, and paypal fee. Seems that adds at least $2 to what the coin price would have been. Quote Link to comment
+Team Perrito Blanco Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 (edited) Nevermind... Edited December 2, 2005 by Team Perrito Blanco Quote Link to comment
+Balla & Silly Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Only 400 of these coins will ever be minted. 100 gold and 300 bronze. They will be trackable on geocaching.com and have their own icon! Looks very nice, I hope we can keep our eyes open... One question: With only 400 coins getting minted we are surprised that they will have their own icon. Did Groundspeak lower the amount of coins you have to produce before you can purchase your own icon (thought it would be 1.000+ coins)? Hey, that would mean a lot of new icons in the near future! Cheers, Heidi Quote Link to comment
+FlyinV Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Only 400 of these coins will ever be minted. 100 gold and 300 bronze. They will be trackable on geocaching.com and have their own icon! Looks very nice, I hope we can keep our eyes open... One question: With only 400 coins getting minted we are surprised that they will have their own icon. Did Groundspeak lower the amount of coins you have to produce before you can purchase your own icon (thought it would be 1.000+ coins)? Hey, that would mean a lot of new icons in the near future! Cheers, Heidi Lighthouse Series =More will come! Quote Link to comment
+JMBella Posted December 2, 2005 Author Share Posted December 2, 2005 Only 400 of these coins will ever be minted. 100 gold and 300 bronze. They will be trackable on geocaching.com and have their own icon! Looks very nice, I hope we can keep our eyes open... One question: With only 400 coins getting minted we are surprised that they will have their own icon. Did Groundspeak lower the amount of coins you have to produce before you can purchase your own icon (thought it would be 1.000+ coins)? Hey, that would mean a lot of new icons in the near future! Cheers, Heidi Lighthouse Series =More will come! Exactly. We have to buy at least 1000 numbers and the icon up front which means with this first set of coins we'll be lucky to break out even but probably won't. Quote Link to comment
+f0t0m0m Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I've never done a Dutch "Buy it Now" auction... does eBay give you the flexibility to restrict people to 2 coins and 3 coins, or are you using some other mechanism for that? Quote Link to comment
+Ladybug Kids Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 You got it. 4:00 PST 5:00 MST 6:00 CST 7:00 EST 3:00 AST Quote Link to comment
+JMBella Posted December 2, 2005 Author Share Posted December 2, 2005 I've never done a Dutch "Buy it Now" auction... does eBay give you the flexibility to restrict people to 2 coins and 3 coins, or are you using some other mechanism for that? I don't see anyway to automatically restrict people from purchasing more that 2 or 3 coins. Mainly this is on the honor system. If that fails, anyone who purchases more than the allowed amount will have their entire purchase refunded which would probably result in them not getting ANY coins. Quote Link to comment
+f0t0m0m Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Thanks.... Just asking because initially I did not read the post that closely.... had I not gone back and re-read it, I would have ordered my normal 5 or 10 of each... Quote Link to comment
+JMBella Posted December 2, 2005 Author Share Posted December 2, 2005 Thanks.... Just asking because initially I did not read the post that closely.... had I not gone back and re-read it, I would have ordered my normal 5 or 10 of each... I'll make sure it's very clear on the listing page. Quote Link to comment
+Wij Drie Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 ... (since I do not and have never bought a dutch auction) ... We Dutch know everything about Dutch auctions. To bad it will be 1 AM in the Netherlands when this thing starts (correct me if i'm wrong, GTM+1). We'll see when we wake up. tot cache, team Wij Drie Quote Link to comment
+nielsenc Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I've never done a Dutch "Buy it Now" auction... does eBay give you the flexibility to restrict people to 2 coins and 3 coins, or are you using some other mechanism for that? I don't see anyway to automatically restrict people from purchasing more that 2 or 3 coins. Mainly this is on the honor system. If that fails, anyone who purchases more than the allowed amount will have their entire purchase refunded which would probably result in them not getting ANY coins. Can you do that with Ebay? Quote Link to comment
+JMBella Posted December 2, 2005 Author Share Posted December 2, 2005 I've never done a Dutch "Buy it Now" auction... does eBay give you the flexibility to restrict people to 2 coins and 3 coins, or are you using some other mechanism for that? I don't see anyway to automatically restrict people from purchasing more that 2 or 3 coins. Mainly this is on the honor system. If that fails, anyone who purchases more than the allowed amount will have their entire purchase refunded which would probably result in them not getting ANY coins. Can you do that with Ebay? I wish. It's OK. I trust you all. Quote Link to comment
+JMBella Posted December 2, 2005 Author Share Posted December 2, 2005 Just got an email from someone in Germany asking a question I don't know the answer to. I'm hoping someone here can help out. If you place an item on ebay, I'm assuming people in Germany or other countries can buy it too, right? Quote Link to comment
+GeoCrickets Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Just got an email from someone in Germany asking a question I don't know the answer to. I'm hoping someone here can help out. If you place an item on ebay, I'm assuming people in Germany or other countries can buy it too, right? Only if you set up the auction that way. You need to list the you will ship outside of the us. If you say US only people with a address outside of the us will not be able to bid. Richard Quote Link to comment
+Team Maddie UK Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 oh yes we can bid and pay and have them sent to a US address cause I do it quite often Quote Link to comment
+JMBella Posted December 2, 2005 Author Share Posted December 2, 2005 Just got an email from someone in Germany asking a question I don't know the answer to. I'm hoping someone here can help out. If you place an item on ebay, I'm assuming people in Germany or other countries can buy it too, right? Only if you set up the auction that way. You need to list the you will ship outside of the us. If you say US only people with a address outside of the us will not be able to bid. Richard Got it. It is already st up that way. Thanks. Quote Link to comment
+Albatross1901 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 GeoCrickets Posted on Dec 2 2005, 11:53 AM QUOTE (JMBella @ Dec 2 2005, 12:33 PM) Just got an email from someone in Germany asking a question I don't know the answer to. I'm hoping someone here can help out. If you place an item on ebay, I'm assuming people in Germany or other countries can buy it too, right? Only if you set up the auction that way. You need to list the you will ship outside of the us. If you say US only people with a address outside of the us will not be able to bid. And sad enough you are blocked even if you would be able to give a shipping address in the US. Ebay is using the profile data. Hope you did't make it up that way Cheers, Albatross1901 Quote Link to comment
+Team Maddie UK Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 actually when i set up my ebay account i was still living in maine..years before i moved to the uk:))) KISS IT! Quote Link to comment
+JMBella Posted December 2, 2005 Author Share Posted December 2, 2005 Not to worry. They are listed as "Will ship Worldwide." Quote Link to comment
+Puma Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 So there will be 2 auctions listed. If I buy on both auctions, do you charge double shipping costs? Quote Link to comment
+Albatross1901 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 @ Team Maddie UK 6 EST is Midnight in UK and 1 a.m. in Continental Europe isn't it? Quote Link to comment
+Twin Peaks Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 (edited) So I understand this coin is available to bidders worldwide? Edited December 2, 2005 by Twin Peaks Quote Link to comment
+Puma Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 jepp das stimmt, 1 Uhr Nachts ;-) Quote Link to comment
+Team Maddie UK Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 thank you JMBella:) Yes that is right on the time midnight gmt 1 am europe. Quote Link to comment
+JMBella Posted December 2, 2005 Author Share Posted December 2, 2005 So I understand this coin is available to bidders worldwide? Da. Quote Link to comment
Hugh Jazz Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 This is a great idea. I love lighthouses. Maybe I'll do a "Lighthouses of Kansas" series of geocoins. Quote Link to comment
+MO Outdoorfamily Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 So there will be 2 auctions listed. If I buy on both auctions, do you charge double shipping costs? If it's not set up as "immediate payment required you can "commit to buy" however many you want and after they are sold the lister can send invoices with combined shipping (or the lister can have it set up that one coins is x shipping and each additional item is y more to allow for people to checout without an invoice). I know to use the "Immediate payment required" option assures each sale is complete and inventory accurate but it also may rip some people off on shipping if they buy in both auctions. Quote Link to comment
+MO Outdoorfamily Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I've never done a Dutch "Buy it Now" auction... does eBay give you the flexibility to restrict people to 2 coins and 3 coins, or are you using some other mechanism for that? I don't see anyway to automatically restrict people from purchasing more that 2 or 3 coins. Mainly this is on the honor system. If that fails, anyone who purchases more than the allowed amount will have their entire purchase refunded which would probably result in them not getting ANY coins. Can you do that with Ebay? I wish. It's OK. I trust you all. You can refund the money if you want to go through the hassle of requesting Ebay refund the fees as a mutual aggreement between parties to cancel the transaction but if the partry buying doesn't agree it was mutual it could get ugly. I guess we just have to hope people read and do the proper thing. Quote Link to comment
+Damenace Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 So there will be 2 auctions listed. If I buy on both auctions, do you charge double shipping costs? Can we please get this question answered? Not that it is going to affect me buying the coins . I really think that we are going to see the direction of coins going in this direction if it works. There have been way to many SNAFU's up to this point with inventory control. I personally like this idea and I would think it would be easier. It would take a lot of printing since you have the ability to print shipping labels if the person buying uses Paypal. Hopefully Ebay holds up better that Paypal did ! Quote Link to comment
+Damenace Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I've never done a Dutch "Buy it Now" auction... does eBay give you the flexibility to restrict people to 2 coins and 3 coins, or are you using some other mechanism for that? I don't see anyway to automatically restrict people from purchasing more that 2 or 3 coins. Mainly this is on the honor system. If that fails, anyone who purchases more than the allowed amount will have their entire purchase refunded which would probably result in them not getting ANY coins. Can you do that with Ebay? I wish. It's OK. I trust you all. You can refund the money if you want to go through the hassle of requesting Ebay refund the fees as a mutual aggreement between parties to cancel the transaction but if the partry buying doesn't agree it was mutual it could get ugly. I guess we just have to hope people read and do the proper thing. If they are going to restrict how many can be purchased then they need to list that in the "auction". Otherwise there would be no violation to the "bidder" and therefore no reason to refund the money. The unfortunate thing with Ebay you really need to spell everything out to cover your butt. Quote Link to comment
+nfa Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 (edited) edit...stupidity... Edited December 2, 2005 by NFA Quote Link to comment
+JMBella Posted December 2, 2005 Author Share Posted December 2, 2005 (edited) So there will be 2 auctions listed. If I buy on both auctions, do you charge double shipping costs? Can we please get this question answered? Not that it is going to affect me buying the coins . I really think that we are going to see the direction of coins going in this direction if it works. There have been way to many SNAFU's up to this point with inventory control. I personally like this idea and I would think it would be easier. It would take a lot of printing since you have the ability to print shipping labels if the person buying uses Paypal. Hopefully Ebay holds up better that Paypal did ! This is why I posted this several hours before the coins actually going on sale so we could work out some possible kinks. I appreciate everyone's input and it will hopefully help in future coin sales for everyone. Listing the coins in this way on ebay seems like a logical solution to many SNAFUs. I'll try and work out an easy solution for shipping fees on multiple orders. Not sure if there's an automated way of doing it. I've got 3 hours to figure it out. Edited December 2, 2005 by JMBella Quote Link to comment
SlytherinAlex Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 @ Team Maddie UK6 EST is Midnight in UK and 1 a.m. in Continental Europe isn't it? No. Quote Link to comment
+Puma Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 @ Team Maddie UK6 EST is Midnight in UK and 1 a.m. in Continental Europe isn't it? No. SlytherinAlex is right: 6 pm EST is not 1 am CET. But the auctions are starting at 7 EST and this is 12 GMT and 1 am CET ... Hope we have cleard all these timeshift problems Quote Link to comment
+Ladycacher Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I am already starting to get excited! Where's that GAA thread......... Quote Link to comment
+Big JohnP Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I am already starting to get excited! Where's that GAA thread......... Now, now............. Quote Link to comment
+Ladycacher Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Well I also can't wait to see how this works out. I may do this with the LE Kansas because I think it would be so much easier for me to handle it. Quote Link to comment
+MO Outdoorfamily Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 (edited) So there will be 2 auctions listed. If I buy on both auctions, do you charge double shipping costs? Can we please get this question answered? Not that it is going to affect me buying the coins . I really think that we are going to see the direction of coins going in this direction if it works. There have been way to many SNAFU's up to this point with inventory control. I personally like this idea and I would think it would be easier. It would take a lot of printing since you have the ability to print shipping labels if the person buying uses Paypal. Hopefully Ebay holds up better that Paypal did ! This is why I posted this several hours before the coins actually going on sale so we could work out some possible kinks. I appreciate everyone's input and it will hopefully help in future coin sales for everyone. Listing the coins in this way on ebay seems like a logical solution to many SNAFUs. I'll try and work out an easy solution for shipping fees on multiple orders. Not sure if there's an automated way of doing it. I've got 3 hours to figure it out. Bella, if you contact me on yahoo messenger with the same name as my geocaching name I can help you get some of the shipping issues answered I think. Outdoorman and I had a coin store on Ebay for a while (not geocoins but US mint coins). Edited December 2, 2005 by outdoorlady79 Quote Link to comment
+bwick99 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 So there will be 2 auctions listed. If I buy on both auctions, do you charge double shipping costs? How much is the shipping charge per coin going to be? Quote Link to comment
+AtlantaGal Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Well I also can't wait to see how this works out. I may do this with the LE Kansas because I think it would be so much easier for me to handle it. Ugh, I hope you don't. The fees alone are going to make coins too pricey... extra 60 cents minimum in the price per coin is for ebay and that's if no special features are used like gallery, bold, etc. Quote Link to comment
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