+Stuey Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 (edited) I've just bought an A6 pad of waterproof paper (www.web-tex.co.uk: similar products by other manufacturers are available!). I've just tested it in the sink and it is great. I have written on it in pencil and biro, and plunged it in the sink. The writing stays on the page, and can't even get rubbed off, let alone smudged off! Has anyone else used this, and if so, is there any drawback to this stuff? It looks good at the moment, but I'll know after a while of one being placed out "in the wild" within a few months. (EDIT to put in link) Edited November 9, 2005 by Stuey Quote Link to comment
+Moote Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Cheers Stuey Now on my bookmarks list Milton (aka Moote) Quote Link to comment
+Dorsetgal & GeoDog Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Have you tried writing on it when it is wet? Quote Link to comment
+Gralorn Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 This reminds me that NASA spent more than $12,000,000 in the 1960's researching and developing a pen that would work upside down and in zer gravity conditions. The Russians used a pencil!!! At £2.95 have you tried a ziploc plastic bag to put it in, which would save you about £2.80. It looks classy though, I'll give you that! Quote Link to comment
+Moote Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 This reminds me that NASA spent more than $12,000,000 in the 1960's researching and developing a pen that would work upside down and in zer gravity conditions. The Russians used a pencil!!!At £2.95 have you tried a ziploc plastic bag to put it in, which would save you about £2.80. It looks classy though, I'll give you that! I think what Stuey's idea is, is to have paper that will withstand a very harsh location, I would not think he would use it in a location where weather / water abuse is negligible. But then I could be wrong Moote Quote Link to comment
+Stuey Posted November 9, 2005 Author Share Posted November 9, 2005 At £2.95 have you tried a ziploc plastic bag to put it in, which would save you about £2.80. It looks classy though, I'll give you that! I've got a couple of micros out in Exeter that are in magnetic key holders. The books are in ziplock bags. The books are wet. Let's be honest, how many times have you found caches where the zip-log bag that is there to keep the logbook dry has been left un-zipped? Loads I bet? So... this stuff is really neat. I can get two books worth out of each book anyway, so it's cheap for peace of mind of having a ruined logbook. I'll let you know how it goes. Quote Link to comment
+Learned Gerbil Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 With my central London micros there is no room for a bag Quote Link to comment
+Stuey Posted November 9, 2005 Author Share Posted November 9, 2005 yep, and I have a copy-cat one in the making with waterproof paper Quote Link to comment
+third-degree-witch Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 The machetes on that site are excellent tools...i use mine alot in the field..you have to spend time creating a decent blade initially but well worth the effort. Quote Link to comment
+Kitty Hawk Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 The machetes on that site are excellent tools...i use mine alot in the field..you have to spend time creating a decent blade initially but well worth the effort. Huh?! Quote Link to comment
+Stuey Posted November 9, 2005 Author Share Posted November 9, 2005 The machetes on that site are excellent tools...i use mine alot in the field..you have to spend time creating a decent blade initially but well worth the effort. Huh?! I understood.... "Machete" as in "big knife". Quote Link to comment
+davy boy Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 The machetes on that site are excellent tools...i use mine alot in the field..you have to spend time creating a decent blade initially but well worth the effort. Huh?! I understood.... "Machete" as in "big knife". But whats it to do with waterproof notebooks? Quote Link to comment
+Birdman-of-liskatraz Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Maybe A6 is too big? Quote Link to comment
+Stuey Posted November 9, 2005 Author Share Posted November 9, 2005 But whats it to do with waterproof notebooks? The url I mentioned is an army supplies place..... third-degree-witch said "machetes on that site" Now back on topic...waterproof logbooks Has anyone ever used one? Quote Link to comment
+Stuey Posted November 9, 2005 Author Share Posted November 9, 2005 Maybe A6 is too big? I expect they sell scissors I'm going to cut mine down to size. Quote Link to comment
+Birdman-of-liskatraz Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Makes the idea of an underwater cache even more feasible.... Can you get waterproof pens? I mean can you write on the waterproof paper when it's wet? Quote Link to comment
+Stuey Posted November 9, 2005 Author Share Posted November 9, 2005 I mean can you write on the waterproof paper when it's wet? Yes, just tried it with a pencil under water. Biro doesn't work so well on wet paper, but it does work. Quote Link to comment
+Bill D (wwh) Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 These pens are designed to write pretty well anywhere, including underwater, and on most surfaces including wet ones. Quote Link to comment
+Naefearjustbeer Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 (edited) this pen is the same without costing as much. I ordered one and when it arrived it was a the same as the crome pen in the previous posting. shown below Edited November 9, 2005 by Naefearjustbeer Quote Link to comment
+The Hancock Clan Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 If it's the same waterproof paper that's used in the official geocaching logbooks then it may be worth providing a biro/pencil too as a lot of ink pens don't write well in them. Quote Link to comment
+Bud Lightbeer Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I used this type of paper initially at Uni when out in the field surveying. It has since served me really well when on exercise/ops with the RAF. It isn't always deserts and sunshine One thing to note is that I have always used pencil, which can fade after a while. Suggest a nice dark one. Quote Link to comment
NickPick Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I've used this sort of paper lots for field surveying - it comes in Yellow books called Chartwell. I've used it in extremely heavy rain, and doesn't disintegrate at all. When it's wet, writing on it with a pencil makes the lines a bit fainter, and biro can be a bit difficult to get to write on it (the ball slips on the water and doesn't put the ink down properly). Space pen works well. Felt tip would leach all over the place. (Those observations are with the paper sopping wet, if it was just damp or mildly moist, I expect the biro would work better, but the felt tip would still leach) Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment
+purple_pineapple Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 At work, we use water insoluble glass marker pens (bit like OHP pens, but not water soluble) I should imagine they would make a good felt tip based pen. I'm not 100 % sure that they actually write when the paper is sopping wet though. Quote Link to comment
markandlynn Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Theres also x stream paper Quote Link to comment
+Matrix Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 There is also this a waterproof notebook Ebay Link Quote Link to comment
+Nellies Knackers Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 So can you print on this stuff using a standard bubblejet printer? Quote Link to comment
+Stuey Posted November 10, 2005 Author Share Posted November 10, 2005 No idea... and I'm not about to try, just in case it makes a mess of my printer Quote Link to comment
+Moote Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I tend to use this paper when the going gets really tough Milton (aka Moote) Quote Link to comment
+marknhelen Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Been using these notebooks for years in the army. They get my vote. Excellent bit of kit. Quote Link to comment
Shep, Seren & Tess Dog Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Ive used a waterproodf paper notebook on my Heston Island Hop cache...its yet to be found though, as its a bit of a mare to get to, so cannot yet report wether it is any good or not. Seren. Quote Link to comment
+rutson Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 I've just bought an A6 pad of waterproof paper (www.web-tex.co.uk: similar products by other manufacturers are available!). {snip} Has anyone else used this, and if so, is there any drawback to this stuff? It looks good at the moment, but I'll know after a while of one being placed out "in the wild" within a few months. How did it get on? Quote Link to comment
+Stuey Posted April 4, 2007 Author Share Posted April 4, 2007 It's been great! The only problems I have had are: when the pencil goes missing from a micro, and people try to write on the wet waterproof paper with a biro. It sorta works, but you end up getting the pages engraved rather than written on when that happens. HB and softer pencils work fine, even when it is saturated. when the staple gets rusty it doesn't look as nice I have put a few of these out now, and have had generally good responses from other cachers. Thanks for finding the thread! Quote Link to comment
+rutson Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Was curious as I found an old waterproof notebook the other day. I've made a 'logbook' for a magnetic keyholder that's just been hidden, so we'll see how it copes. Quote Link to comment
+Tiger-Eyes Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 So can you print on this stuff using a standard bubblejet printer? My sister has printed maps from memory map onto waterproof paper using a standard printer though I don't know if it's the same paper manufacturer. Quote Link to comment
+Captain Gore-tex Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Was really impressed with the Exeter cache that was soaking wet but still able to log so have just ordered a book through the Luton suppliers Quote Link to comment
+2202 Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Been using waterproof paper in a number of my micros in Oxford for some two years at least, bought it in a army surplus shop. Not all pens work though. Quote Link to comment
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