+bushwackin' schmo Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Does this bother anyone? Should the seller tell the buyer if the coins are made over seas? Just asking for your opinion. Quote Link to comment
+nielsenc Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Would you pay more to have made in the USA coins? Quote Link to comment
+bushwackin' schmo Posted November 7, 2005 Author Share Posted November 7, 2005 there is be a group of people who would not purchase a coin not made in the U.S. I am a little upset that a New Mexico coin would be minted in China. Quote Link to comment
+nielsenc Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 I bet that 80+% of all the coins are minted in China. I know that the Alaska ones were made in Alaska at the Alaska mint. Quote Link to comment
+DM500HD Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 (edited) The EU coin was minted in China and looks good, but I'm sure that it could be minted for the same prize somewhere else in the States or Europe. By the way: the Dutch one comes from the US. What about that folks? Edited November 7, 2005 by Team Firefox Quote Link to comment
+pdxmarathonman Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 (edited) I bet that 80+% of all the coins are minted in China. I know that the Alaska ones were made in Alaska at the Alaska mint. That estimate might be a little low. I know that some who have attempted to have a local shop do their coins have discovered that the shop can't accomplish what was being asked. Edited November 7, 2005 by pdxmarathonman Quote Link to comment
+nielsenc Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Another thing to note, just because it doesnt have the 'made in china' sticker on them, doesnt mean they werent. Our samples came in with no sticker yet the coins did. I have seen other coins which had no sticker on them yet I *know* they were made in China. At least they dont stamp that on the coin! Quote Link to comment
+bushwackin' schmo Posted November 7, 2005 Author Share Posted November 7, 2005 Should the seller state where the coins would be minted? There has to be some union guys who open their packages today and are taken back by the made in China sticker. Quote Link to comment
+DancesWithMoose Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 To be honest, I don't even know where mine are being made. I never asked. Maybe it could be added to the pinned thread on where to get coins made. Quote Link to comment
+pdxmarathonman Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Should the seller state where the coins would be minted? There has to be some union guys who open their packages today and are taken back by the made in China sticker. Just assume they're made in China and be pleasantly surprised if you find out otherwise Quote Link to comment
+graylling Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Although I would love to have had my coins made locally, when I'm footing the entire bill myself I have to be a bit more cost conscious than someone who is selling their coins and getting the buyers to cover the price. If the company I choose gets the coins made in China then so be it. Quote Link to comment
+bushwackin' schmo Posted November 7, 2005 Author Share Posted November 7, 2005 I assumed a U.S. state coin would be minted in the U.S. I'm gonna start asking. Quote Link to comment
+Shop99er Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 I assumed a U.S. state coin would be minted in the U.S. I'm gonna start asking. And if they're not? Quote Link to comment
+Fundamental Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 I don't mind where the coins are made if they look good If made in China is cheaper than made in USA then I prefer buying made in China ones Quote Link to comment
+Nazgul Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 IIRC, the coins from KV come from South Korea. Coins & Pins offers multiple greades of coins, with the cheaper coins coming from an unspecified source while the higher grades are made in the US. My personal preference is for coins not made in China. Quote Link to comment
+carleenp Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 I would suspect that many US companies still sub-contract out to China. It could be hard for many to know exactly where their coin was minted. Quote Link to comment
+9Key Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 My personal preference is for coins not made in China. Why is everyone hatin' on China? I had no idea where the New Mexico coins were going to be made. Frankly I didn't care as long as they look good - I think they look great.If anyone would like their money back because the coins were made overseas just return the coins to me and I'll issue a refund. Geesh! Quote Link to comment
+nielsenc Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 IIRC, the coins from KV come from South Korea. Coins & Pins offers multiple greades of coins, with the cheaper coins coming from an unspecified source while the higher grades are made in the US. My personal preference is for coins not made in China. From the coins I see coming from CoinsandPins, based on the artwork, they are made in China. Take what pdxmarathonman wrote to heart, unless they give you the name of the mint, like the Alaska Coins, they are most likely made in China. We did contact the Alaska Mint to make some of our coins but they were unable to do some of the custom things on our coins. For example, we wanted to have the tracking number on the back of the coin, they could not do that. Quote Link to comment
+Scaramanga Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 I don't care about coins made in China. Will, you can put me down for some of the returned coins. Quote Link to comment
+team simpson Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 with the dutch geocoins, we did look for coin makers in the Netherlands, but the prices where very high. For the die only we would already have to pay $850 for each side. The costs for one coin would go up to about $20, and they couldn't number them, and coloring was not possible either. Quote Link to comment
+f0t0m0m Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 I don't care where the coin are made. As long as the quality is good, working conditionsare reasonable, and the service is good. I beleive our coins were made in China... Quote Link to comment
+pdxmarathonman Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 with the dutch geocoins, we did look for coin makers in the Netherlands, but the prices where very high.For the die only we would already have to pay $850 for each side. The costs for one coin would go up to about $20, and they couldn't number them, and coloring was not possible either. Were the Dutch coins actually minted in the U.S.? Or was it just a U.S. company? Quote Link to comment
+Albatross1901 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Isn't geocaching or "geocoining" a global activity? Most important - as already said - that they look nice and are well minted. You should not care whether they are produced in US or elsewhere in the world. Would you stop to purchase for example Nike products or many other well known American brands knowing that they are not domestically produced but in China, Taiwan, Korea, Thailand or elsewhere? But ... this is an opinion from an "old" European country only Albatross1901 Quote Link to comment
+DancesWithMoose Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 I don't care where the coin are made. As long as the quality is good, working conditionsare reasonable, and the service is good. I agree. The coin quality is very important Quote Link to comment
PCFrog Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 (edited) www.coinandpins.com = Hong Kong So all the coins made from them are made over seas? Edited November 7, 2005 by pcfrog Quote Link to comment
+Squealy Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 I love cheap labor. Quote Link to comment
Parrolet Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 China made means jobs sent to china though. USA means jobs kept here. I would rather pay a little more for USA made. Quote Link to comment
+HerrK & Friends Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 with the dutch geocoins, we did look for coin makers in the Netherlands, but the prices where very high.For the die only we would already have to pay $850 for each side. The costs for one coin would go up to about $20, and they couldn't number them, and coloring was not possible either. Jep, the same in Germany...personal coins are at a very high price! The price for one coin is easy the double........... Quote Link to comment
+IceCreamMan Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Does this bother anyone? Should the seller tell the buyer if the coins are made over seas? Just asking for your opinion. Get the best value and everything else will work out. Doesn't bother me a bit to buy a coin made in China or anywhere else. Anymore than it bothers me to drive past the car dealer in my home town to get a better deal in the next town. Quote Link to comment
+IceCreamMan Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 China made means jobs sent to china though. USA means jobs kept here. I would rather pay a little more for USA made. Paying an inefficient provider extra to make something that can be made more efficiently else where means fewer jobs for everyone. It is a falacy that buying foreign goods costs jobs. Trade creates jobs, for both sides. Buying something that costs more JUST because it's made in America is no better for the economy than cutting a Welfare Check is. Quote Link to comment
57chevy Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Isn't geocaching or "geocoining" a global activity? Most important - as already said - that they look nice and are well minted. You should not care whether they are produced in US or elsewhere in the world. Albatross1901 Ya hit this one right on the nose, Quality is Quality no matter where it comes from. I hear them Swiss folks make a real dandy watch. And I'm really a fan of BMWs and Audi or Peugeot. I'm sure some of their parts come from southeast Asia. Not really sure, but if I were to take a wild guess,I would bet some of the Swiss's ding dong comes from Hong Kong. Quote Link to comment
+Nazgul Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 You should not care whether they are produced in US or elsewhere in the world. Thank you for telling us how we should think. Personally, I try to avoid purchasing goods from China when there is a reasonable alternative, geocoins or otherwise. That's just my preference. I don't feel the need to debate or justify my actions here. Quote Link to comment
57chevy Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 That's just my preference. I don't feel the need to debate or justify my actions here. I think that sums it up. Quote Link to comment
+Nazgul Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 I think that sums it up. Quote Link to comment
+nfa Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 (edited) Now how do you guys feel about the Chinese geocoin being made in China...I just got the 25 I ordered in the mail today and they look great, but I'm worried that they might have really been made in Iowa... I don't want Chinese jobs stolen by Iowa sweat-shop workers... Edited November 8, 2005 by NFA Quote Link to comment
+Fundamental Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Now how do you guys feel about the Chinese geocoin being made in China...I just got the 25 I ordered in the mail today and they look great, but I'm worried that they might have really been made in Iowa... I don't want Chinese jobs stolen by Iowa sweat-shop workers... I don't want to buy those! Unless they have own icon Quote Link to comment
+Audion64 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 That low price comes at a cost... maybe not yours but certainly someones. That choice is up to you whether that fact is important to you or not. Quote Link to comment
+SunshineGang Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 I would love to buy american made geocoins. but no one in america will make my for the price that someone in korea will. Does anyone actually know someplace to get american made geocoins? Quote Link to comment
57chevy Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Now how do you guys feel about the Chinese geocoin being made in China...I just got the 25 I ordered in the mail today and they look great, but I'm worried that they might have really been made in Iowa... I don't want Chinese jobs stolen by Iowa sweat-shop workers... Now that's funny, I don't care who ya are. Oh yeah, Thx, I just found out root beer REALLY burns when it comes outta my nose. Quote Link to comment
+pdxmarathonman Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 I would love to buy american made geocoins. but no one in america will make my for the price that someone in korea will. Does anyone actually know someplace to get american made geocoins? www.militarycoins.com Oh, and the Chinese made coins are better quality than the Korean coins (really). Quote Link to comment
+Audion64 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 I would love to buy american made geocoins. but no one in america will make my for the price that someone in korea will. Does anyone actually know someplace to get american made geocoins? Hmm, will YOU work for the same wage as someone in Korea?? Then why would you expect the people making coins in the US to work for Korean wages? Quote Link to comment
+IceCreamMan Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 ...will YOU work for the same wage as someone in Korea?? Then why would you expect the people making coins in the US to work for Korean wages? I don't. I expect folks in America to be doing something more productive than can be done in Korea for a fraction of the cost. Quote Link to comment
+Geometeacher Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 While we here in America are debating where the geocoins should be made, much of the rest of the world is wishing they had half the disposable income we have as Americans. We are a rich, snobby country, and unless we are all willing to get rid of our 3 TV's 2 cars and 5 land phones to go along with our cell phones and $500 GPS units and work for $5 a day, then we should be happy that somewhere in the world our silly geocoin obsession is supplying food for some Chinaman's family Quote Link to comment
+FlyinV Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Now how do you guys feel about the Chinese geocoin being made in China...I just got the 25 I ordered in the mail today and they look great, but I'm worried that they might have really been made in Iowa... I don't want Chinese jobs stolen by Iowa sweat-shop workers... Now that's funny, I don't care who ya are. Oh yeah, Thx, I just found out root beer REALLY burns when it comes outta my nose. "That ain’t right, Lord I apologize for that right there and be with the starving pygmies down there in New Guinea there, Amen." Quote Link to comment
+Damenace Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Now how do you guys feel about the Chinese geocoin being made in China...I just got the 25 I ordered in the mail today and they look great, but I'm worried that they might have really been made in Iowa... I don't want Chinese jobs stolen by Iowa sweat-shop workers... Now that's funny, I don't care who ya are. Oh yeah, Thx, I just found out root beer REALLY burns when it comes outta my nose. "That ain’t right, Lord I apologize for that right there and be with the starving pygmies down there in New Guinea there, Amen." "Git R Done", I just love Larry The Cable Guy!!! Quote Link to comment
+Audion64 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 (edited) First let me say I have nothing against 9Key, and the New Mexico coin is only being used as an example because he has already stated it was made overseas.... Hmmmmm New Mexico coin, made overseas.... $7 +shipping Alaska coin, minted in the United States..... $5 +shipping Someone was saying American workers are overpriced? Edited November 8, 2005 by audion64 Quote Link to comment
+Geometeacher Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 First let me say I have nothing against 9Key, and the New Mexico coin is only being used as an example because he has already stated it was made overseas.... Hmmmmm New Mexico coin, made overseas.... $7 +shipping Alaska coin, minted in the United States..... $5 +shipping Someone was saying American workers are overpriced? Add the trackable option, the size, and the color, not to mention the fact that there were more Alaska minted, your case doesn't hold up. Quote Link to comment
+pdxmarathonman Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 First let me say I have nothing against 9Key, and the New Mexico coin is only being used as an example because he has already stated it was made overseas.... Hmmmmm New Mexico coin, made overseas.... $7 +shipping Alaska coin, minted in the United States..... $5 +shipping Someone was saying American workers are overpriced? Add the trackable option, the size, and the color, not to mention the fact that there were more Alaska minted, your case doesn't hold up. I don't remember if there was actual shipping from the AK mint. I know the cacher/designer actually visited the mint during the process though, so it is possible they were picked up. Volume discounts make a huge difference, as does color. So yeah, it was an Apples -vs- Oranges comparison. Quote Link to comment
+legm Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Most of the Geocoins I have bought had the little sticker "made in china" They look great. Even if they were made here, in the USA. It would be in a factor of mostly of illeagles. Pay them min. wages. So they can just send their money back home. What is the diffrence in that. Quote Link to comment
+Chaos A.D./aka Arlsdaddy Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 www.coinandpins.com = Hong Kong What???!!!! You're kidding, right??!! Quote Link to comment
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