+Team Hydro Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Since joining in on a recent thread about the good old yellow etrex, I had a look at Ebay to see how much they were going for. I was surprised to see a series of ebay adverts showing new boxed ones being sold very cheaply (under 19 pounds) and became interested. The Scam Ebay Advert However, I looked closely at the sellers feedback and also other items from the same seller and it is definitely a scam. The seller appears to be from China and at least two buyers have been taken in by this and another advert and have paid up and lost money without of course receiving any goods. The adverts i saw from this seller were all for the Garmin Etrex but I am sure that this scammer is adverting other GPS units as well as completely different items. So beware, if it looks to good to be true, it probably isn't! Quote Link to comment
Team 'James W' Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Ha - check out the phoney feedback from the obviously phoney buyer accounts! Who'd have an ebay ID "jjjjjjj_6" or "klfgggg"!! "the seller is very honest, i want to make friend with you" Quote Link to comment
+Windsocker Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 they have a few accounts on ebay ireland also trying to do the same and also want €50 postage Quote Link to comment
markandlynn Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Amazingly quick delivery 2 hours and feedback given must be a group all praising each other up Quote Link to comment
Nediam Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Hmmm does look rather sus. The feedback comments are in very broken english and most of the names supplying feedback seem to be random letters similar to the sellers! "Very good,you are a good buyer!" - I think he means seller "a good seller, i want to make friend with him in the furture" - oo er However, a chap at work was saying that a local LiDL store were selling GPSr's for around £19. Probably sold out by now and he didn't know what make they were. Might be worth looking into though if anyone's near a LiDL. Quote Link to comment
+Munkeh Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 I watch Lidl all the time the only Item like that they have had are digital compasses Quote Link to comment
+Learned Gerbil Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Not very good digital compasses either. Quote Link to comment
+walkergeoff and wife Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Shouldn't this have been reported to eBay? Quote Link to comment
+Moote Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 If you drill down into the accounts you come to ones without feedback! Yes a SCAM if I ever saw one Milton (aka moote) Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Shouldn't this have been reported to eBay? My thoughts exactly. Quote Link to comment
+The Hokesters Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Shouldn't this have been reported to eBay? My thoughts exactly. It's easy to do and all the accounts concerned will be suspended. I have had to do it on a number of occasions. Quote Link to comment
+Mr Nibbler Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 I particularly liked "very beautiful". Quote Link to comment
+Dorsetgal & GeoDog Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Shouldn't this have been reported to eBay? My thoughts exactly. Yep, I have reported it, and if all you folks do too, then they will be history within hours! Sadly though, the eBay system is such that they will be back with another fake ID and more shill bids from sock puppets as soon as you can blink! Quote Link to comment
+The Wombles Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 It would be really easy for ebay to write an anti-fraud application to monitor this sort of feedback loop and feedback-free accounts. It's a shame they haven't put the effort into their customer's protection and satisfaction. Quote Link to comment
+Sensei TSKC Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 One one of the tiems sold 'favourably' the item was put up for sale at 0837, sold at 1059 and feedback left at 1106 - ALL on the same day (1/10/2005) What makes you think this is a scam? Quote Link to comment
+walkergeoff and wife Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 It would be really easy for ebay to write an anti-fraud application to monitor this sort of feedback loop and feedback-free accounts. It's a shame they haven't put the effort into their customer's protection and satisfaction. Given the massive use of eBay my feeling is that there is remarkably little fraud, and this one is so obvious that I would have thought that a simple application of Caveat Emptor, along with 'There ain't no such thing as a cheap, let alone free, lunch' would be sufficient to make trying to run a scam just not worth the effort. Quote Link to comment
+Nellies Knackers Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Check out 419 eater to see just how clever some scammers are, dadgum funny reading!!! Quote Link to comment
+Mr'D Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Just seen this item for sale by this seller, hey it's Mrs.D's birthday on Saturday.... For sale Quote Link to comment
+Roving Rangies Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Not very good digital compasses either. Excuse me! I have a Llidl digital compass, and it has always been spot on. I paid about £4.99 for it I think. Quote Link to comment
nobby.nobbs Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Not very good digital compasses either. Excuse me! I have a Llidl digital compass, and it has always been spot on. I paid about £4.99 for it I think. cheapscate! Quote Link to comment
+Naefearjustbeer Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 you must of been lucky my mates one doesnt always point north?? which is handy for a compass. Quote Link to comment
+Learned Gerbil Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 The Lidl digital compass I have seen (£12.99) is very heavy, doesn't point North even when recalibrated regularly, has no way of recording a bearing so you can follow it, and bearings are only meant to be accurate to 5 degress anyway. In all, it does none of the things a compass half the price would do. Quote Link to comment
+Mr Nibbler Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Out of interest I clicked on JohnnyMuscles who gave three negative feedbacks - he's been well and truly flamed by our Chinese friend. Just off to clean the tea out of my keyboard. Quote Link to comment
+Munkeh Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 The Lidl digital compass I have seen (£12.99) is very heavy, doesn't point North even when recalibrated regularly, has no way of recording a bearing so you can follow it, and bearings are only meant to be accurate to 5 degress anyway. In all, it does none of the things a compass half the price would do. I bought a digital compass from aldi £9.99...I quickly realised it was not worth the money in comparison with a normal compass Quote Link to comment
+Munkeh Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 oh dear mr china seems to have lost his account....only next week to open another one...just call me cynical Quote Link to comment
+Sue Gremlin Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Out of interest I clicked on JohnnyMuscles who gave three negative feedbacks - he's been well and truly flamed by our Chinese friend. Just off to clean the tea out of my keyboard. How does one person give that many bad feedbacks? I thought you had to actually buy an item from someone to give them feedback. Quote Link to comment
+Mr Nibbler Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 No idea, but the flames are really funny. Quote Link to comment
+Sensei TSKC Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Out of interest I clicked on JohnnyMuscles who gave three negative feedbacks - he's been well and truly flamed by our Chinese friend. Just off to clean the tea out of my keyboard. How does one person give that many bad feedbacks? I thought you had to actually buy an item from someone to give them feedback. Quite easily in this case. he tried to purchase three different things! Quote Link to comment
+Munkeh Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 he bought everything the seller was selling Quote Link to comment
+Tupperware Hunters Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Seller information dsw_1_2 ( 10)No longer registered with eBay Quote Link to comment
+Nellies Knackers Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Has anybody read jonnymudcles own feedback, must love baiting these people, I bet he aint lost a penny! Quote Link to comment
+Mr Nibbler Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 NN - yes, that's what I was alluding to above. Priceless. Quote Link to comment
+Team Hydro Posted October 5, 2005 Author Share Posted October 5, 2005 This doesn't seem to be a scam but may amuse some people...... Another Ebay Advert Quote Link to comment
+Haggis Hunter Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Has anybody read jonnymudcles own feedback, must love baiting these people, I bet he aint lost a penny! Classic line from them I bet he was really offended by that one. you are bad boy???????????????you are not honest? Quote Link to comment
+The Blorenges Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 (edited) Just to redress the balance in this thread a bit.... My son was recently the victim of a duff seller on Ebay. Bid for, and paid for, a new mobile phone....which never turned up. After waiting patiently for 10 days he saw that two other disappointed buyers had left neg feedback so he then realised he'd been had. So he went through the Ebay procedures for reporting "item paid for, never received". Within a month he'd had all his money back - £105 from the Ebay protection cover, the rest of the balance from his credit card (which he'd used to make the payment). Mrs B Edited October 5, 2005 by The Blorenges Quote Link to comment
+Roving Rangies Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Not very good digital compasses either. Excuse me! I have a Llidl digital compass, and it has always been spot on. I paid about £4.99 for it I think. cheapscate! Jealous? Quote Link to comment
+Learned Gerbil Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Having seen one in action - I can't imagine why anyone would be jealous. Quote Link to comment
nobby.nobbs Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 nope not jealous. got me an old fashioned non digital, non electric compass, always works always points north. no need to worry about batteries or re calibrating. sometimes new isn't better. Quote Link to comment
+Roving Rangies Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 OK! if digital compasses from lidlls is a bad thing, why does mine work fine! I can even tell how hot I am while I hunt for the caches! I suppose we all rely on modern technology too much, after all what is wrong with a pin on a cork in a bowl of water to see where north is! OR, knowing the moss only grows on the north side of trees? Scouts! they have all the answers! Quote Link to comment
+Mr & Mrs Hedgehog Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 Just to redress the balance in this thread a bit....My son was recently the victim of a duff seller on Ebay. Bid for, and paid for, a new mobile phone....which never turned up. After waiting patiently for 10 days he saw that two other disappointed buyers had left neg feedback so he then realised he'd been had. So he went through the Ebay procedures for reporting "item paid for, never received". Within a month he'd had all his money back - £105 from the Ebay protection cover, the rest of the balance from his credit card (which he'd used to make the payment). Mrs B I do think you were very very lucky to get your money back... I've been done on eBay to the tune of £26. eBay didn't want to know. I kissed that money goodbye... There was a seller I dealt with. HE started off good. Selling items cheap, delivery OK. Then he went bad. Took hundreds of pounds of many many people from all over Europe and people never got thier goods. He ran that scan for a couple of months before being banned. I doubt if many of those poeple ever got their money back... Quote Link to comment
+Learned Gerbil Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 OK! if digital compasses from lidlls is a bad thing, why does mine work fine!I can even tell how hot I am while I hunt for the caches! Good point - I had forgotten the built in thermometer! :-) Does yours show bearing only to 5 degress or is it better than that? It seems strange that the one I saw allowed you to input magnetic variation to half a degree, but then only shows all bearings in five degree increments! Quote Link to comment
+Munkeh Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 Good point - I had forgotten the built in thermometer! :-) Does yours show bearing only to 5 degress or is it better than that? It seems strange that the one I saw allowed you to input magnetic variation to half a degree, but then only shows all bearings in five degree increments! best part of it, but as a compass it takes good bearings of rubbish bins Quote Link to comment
Shep, Seren & Tess Dog Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 Ive bought laods of things on E Bay (including motorbikes) & *touch wood* everything has gone ok. But as usual, its the minority that spoil it for the rest of us. I also bought my GFPS from E Bay, I only wanted a ikkle cheap one, so decided on a Garmin 101, but they were still over £100 at the time. I managed to get a brand new boxed one for £50 from a chap in Plymouth, it didnt take long to arrive, but imagine my horror when it turned up having been posted in the US, & the customs document on the front of the package read "Used GPS"!!! What he had done,was that he obviously had friends in the US that could buy them & send them out cheaper than he could get them, & to get round paying the tax, they said it was used...Eeeek, I bet I could have got done if it had been checked at the sorting office! Seren. Quote Link to comment
+purple_pineapple Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 oooh - do you want another motorbike then?? I can sell you my old one! g'wan, you know ya wanna! Quote Link to comment
markandlynn Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 Speaking of ebay'ish things i had a phishing email get past the spam filters last week purporting to be from paypal. It was very cleverly worded and set out. I just never reply to unsolicited survey's etc on the net or in emails and always type the url for ebay, paypal banks etc. :shudder: Quote Link to comment
+Dorsetgal & GeoDog Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 Speaking of ebay'ish things i had a phishing email get past the spam filters last week purporting to be from paypal. It was very cleverly worded and set out. I just never reply to unsolicited survey's etc on the net or in emails and always type the url for ebay, paypal banks etc. :shudder: Very common indeed, forward them to spoof@paypal.com Quote Link to comment
+Jolly green giants Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 Even the pik looks dodgey not even going there. Even though I did buy my etrex via ebay youv'e just got to be careful Quote Link to comment
+Dorsetgal & GeoDog Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 This doesn't seem to be a scam but may amuse some people...... Another Ebay Advert Thanks for that, twas finished when I got there so dotted a quickie off to the seller and he put it back on a "buy it now" for me, and said I could have two for the price of one. Oh yes, of course I know tis a blow up beach ball thingy with a globe on, just what I have been looking for to use in a fundraising venture! Quote Link to comment
+StrongGale Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 This bit of freeware helps you identify if a link from an email (eg eBay, PayPal) is dodgy or not. http://www.realtimecredentials.com/spoofstick/ Cheers, D Quote Link to comment
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