+MapLady Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Bug_Hunter_2005 is finding and keeping travel bugs, and now logging those finds. http://www.geocaching.com/profile/?guid=3b...51-3da10c39df0e Anyone know who this geocacher is who has an log name just to log the fact that he/she/they are keeping travel bugs? MapLady (from PA, and I almost went to get that white jeep travel bug ) Quote Link to comment
+whistler & co. Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 NO idea who he (or she) is, but it seems like a mean thing to do! Quote Link to comment
+Medic005 Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Really mean person, he/she just grabbed one of my bugs after it completed it's mission and was on it's way back to me. Quote Link to comment
+Frodo_Underhill Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Some one needs to put out a bug with a GPS transceiver on it. When he nabs it, all the previous bug owners can descend upon him and discuss the capture of their bugs - very politely - of course! Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 This is despicable! The caches seem to be near to, and on both sides of the Water Gap. Mario was not at Eastbound and Down when I visited on 9/5. The bug that was left there later that day disappeared before MaxB was there on the 15th. MaxB's Log. Quote Link to comment
+Muzikman Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Someone really needs a life...and for once, it's not me. Quote Link to comment
4wheelin_fool Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 The thief seems to be an alias for a premium member with 39 finds. I'm sure Groundspeak can find out his name and address through his payment info and get him to return the bugs. Quote Link to comment
+trail hound Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 (edited) ***DELETED*** Edited September 20, 2005 by trail hound Quote Link to comment
+Zhanna Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 The thief seems to be an alias for a premium member with 39 finds. I'm sure Groundspeak can find out his name and address through his payment info and get him to return the bugs. Nice detective work, and I see what you mean. If the thief is who I'm thinking it is, he certainly didn't cover his tracks very well. That username made me rather suspicious from the start, in fact, but their cache logs sounded innocent enough. ~Zhanna http://www.planetzhanna.com/ Quote Link to comment
+MapLady Posted September 20, 2005 Author Share Posted September 20, 2005 Thanks to all the geocachers who have emailed me. We all think we know what the other alias is for these geocachers, though none of us know who they are personally nor their real names - and I've notified the PA and the NJ administrator. The info has been sent to Groundspeak though I'm not really sure what exactly they can do. But for now, travel bugs are not safe in the Poconos and NEPA and parts of NJ. Quote Link to comment
+Packanack Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Maybe I am missing something here, but how can anyone conclude there is anything nefarious going on here ? Perhaps all those bugs will be dropped shortly. Quote Link to comment
4wheelin_fool Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 He is using a sock puppet account to log the bugs, and the caches he visits he replies that there is NO TB in cache. The bugs are logged a few days off from his visit to try to cover his tracks. Quote Link to comment
magellan315 Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 (edited) Yeah, I see the pattern. Its just not worth forming a posse, unless you caught them in the act. Let GC.com handle it. Edited September 21, 2005 by magellan315 Quote Link to comment
+whistler & co. Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 But if the posse were to be listed as an event cache..... Could be kind of fun! Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I'm sure this kid is watching this thread and getting a kick out of the fact that people are noticing his little game. Quote Link to comment
+whistler & co. Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Actually, I don't think he's a "kid" per se, as one of his posts under his other account refer to "the Mrs." But yes, I'm sure he is getting quite a kick out of it. Kind of like we do when we drive past a cache we've already found and notice someone looking for it! But without that little gleam of malice, of course... Quote Link to comment
+Medic005 Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I did get a message from the Bug Hunter that my TB would be released in a couple of days, so I guess I'll wait and see if that happens. Quote Link to comment
+cazray and Mrs.caz Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 (edited) I got an e-mail today from the owner that had two bugs taken out of the Alcatraz cache saying they would be returned on 9/21/05 after 6:30PM Edited September 22, 2005 by cazray and Mrs.caz Quote Link to comment
+Fabu Two Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 (edited) They 'supposedly' dropped them all off here: Waypoint: GCN9WD And the Jeeps here: GCMVNE Edited September 22, 2005 by Fabu Two Quote Link to comment
4wheelin_fool Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...eb-7e8b84dbb28b If there are 21 bugs there then... Quote Link to comment
+whistler & co. Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 (edited) Then he can sit at some vantage point and watch people search for the cache! We always enjoy watching people look for caches we have already found, especially if the search involves crawling under a tank! (edit) Unfortunately, this is one day probably going to lead to a fender bender because we're looking at the tank/light pole/bridge abutment rather than the road in front of us! Edited September 22, 2005 by whistler & co. Quote Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 (edited) http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...eb-7e8b84dbb28b If there are 21 bugs there then... I don't delurk too often, as you can probably tell by my tadpole status. This was an interesting thread though. I don't think the knucklehead realized he was going to get caught so easily. I'll bet he doesn't realize he exposed an IP address by answering people's emails, either . Well, I've found that cache in question, and it's more than spacious enough to accomodate 21 TB's. I hope they're there. Maybe a name change to the Eastbound and down Travel Bug Hotel is in order? As long as they don't make it a TB prison Edited September 22, 2005 by TheWhiteUrkel Quote Link to comment
+Packanack Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 (edited) Maybe I am missing something here, but how can anyone conclude there is anything nefarious going on here ? Perhaps all those bugs will be dropped shortly. Looked like whomever just wanted to move some travel bugs and the reaction was just a little over the top. Edited September 22, 2005 by Packanack Quote Link to comment
+MapLady Posted September 22, 2005 Author Share Posted September 22, 2005 Hope the New Jersey folks let us know if the travel bugs are really there. Quote Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Maybe I am missing something here, but how can anyone conclude there is anything nefarious going on here ? Perhaps all those bugs will be dropped shortly. Looked like whomever just wanted to move some travel bugs and the reaction was just a little over the top. You really need to examine the thread and information available before making such a statement. Someone just wanted to "move bugs", so they collected them over a period of several weeks, left most of them unlogged and missing until a couple of days ago, so they could drop 21 of them in a cache which is pretty much local to where they were all "captured" (his words) from? This was absolutely someone with malicious intent, who didn't think they would get noticed as quickly, or especially tied so easily to a premium member account. Heck, they could have read this very thread, and realized that as a premium member, Groundspeak has their name, address and credit card information, which I'm sure escaped their attention at first. Quote Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I'm sure this kid is watching this thread and getting a kick out of the fact that people are noticing his little game. Ya got a point there But I am a mere Tadpole for one more post, after all. Eh, I'm going back to lurking anyways. Quote Link to comment
+Reddog176 Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Hello all, I have some good news and some bad news... I'll start with the good news... the cache that he dropped 24 travel bugs in.. he DID drop them there, I was to that cache this morning.. I grabbed 11 of the bugs and will be distributing them to the NJ/PA area in the next week or so. I did this with mixed feelings, but I didn't want to see the cache get muggled with 24 bugs in it, I hope you don't all hate me for my choice. I also visited the jeep cache last night, only to find it missing (i've been to it before).. but I got harasses by the cops as it was 1am and a business right near the cache had been robbed a few days prior... so I went back to the cache later in the morning, around 8am to find it still missing, and upon closer inspection it was below in the river. Me and my crew took a 2 hour hike down to it and retrieved the container, minus the lid and most of the contents. We waded around in the river a bit and found the pen, some of the log book, some other misc papers, and a few objects that were in it.. but no jeeps. There were also tracks from 4wheelers doing doughnuts near where the cache had been hid.. so I assume that had something to do with it. So, I'm not sure if the muggler made off with the jeeps and tossed the rest of the cache.. or if their currently at the bottom of the deleware... But, that's the update I've got for now. Team Reddog176 Quote Link to comment
+trail hound Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Thier own bugs are also in ALCATRAZ!!!! I stopped by this morning and grabbed some of the 'rest stop' bugs after checking ALCATRAZ and the bridge...I couldn't find the cache at the bridge (Now I know why!!!) I just wonder if they kept the jeeps and made it look like a muggled cache!!!! (Although it did take a header into the Delaware before!!) Reddog...Go ahead and log the bugs that you grabbed this morning...They are still showing up in the cache and you will need to have them logged to drop them anyway. Quote Link to comment
+Tiffany's Slaves Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 The Head Slave found the cache and took three more of the bugs that had been dropped and will move thm eastward. Look for them to appear in a new cache within a couple of days. Quote Link to comment
+Resolution Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 (edited) This is very strange. We received notification that this cacher also dropped our WhatIsIt bug. However, it (as well as Mario Bug) was logged as being dropped in a different cache: The Blairstown Airport Cache. Why would the bulk of his haul be dumped into one cache and just these two in a different one? Are there any others besides the Jeeps that were dropped away from the mass bug dump? Edited September 25, 2005 by Resolution Quote Link to comment
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