+ItsMeDave Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 I'm about to buy my first GPS (I guess my Garmin Forerunner 301 really counts as my first). It's a toss up between the Vista C and the Legend C. Is the electronic compass and altimeter worth the extra cash or is it better to purchase a good magnetic compass and a dedicated altimeter? I know the difference is only $50CDN but if I still have to buy the separate items it's $50 wasted. cheers Dave Vancouver, BC Quote Link to comment
+tands Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 We never use the Altimeter, but the compass really helps when the sats are sketchy. How, you ask? When we put the unit down to let it settle, the compass knows which way to point to the cache location. Otherwise, units without a compass need to move to get a bearing. And the unit has code built-in to use the compass and the sats at the same time to help get a bearing to the cache. So, if you really want to drill down to a cache, the compass helps. But be sure to calibrate it by doing the bee-dance! - T of TandS Quote Link to comment
rickertk Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 I have the VistaC. I love the altimeter, but then, I'm not using the unit for geocaching. I'm using it to track bicycle rides, and it's very nice to have the vertical profile to go along with the track. I think it really depends on what you want out of the unit as to whether it's worth the money or not. Keith Quote Link to comment
goodweather Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 I own a Vista C and I use the altimeter very often. It's very useful for tracking altitude profiles of my bike routes. Also, when I'm hiking, when I stop walking I can still trust my compass; with the Legend C, I would have to move to know where north is. I'd say, go for the Vista C. Quote Link to comment
Neo_Geo Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 The LegendC will give you altitude information based on GPS data. You will still have vertical profile data for the tracks. The thing about having a barometric altimeter is if altitude information is critical, and you lose your GPS signal, you can still have a good altitude reading. Also, an FYI: If you take an altimeter onboard an airliner in a pressurized cabin, it will tell you that you're only 5,000 feet up when in reality the plane is actually at 41,000 feet. Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Some people like the Compass and some don't. Most actually like them when they get used to them. I don't like how they work on a GPS so I'd get the Legend over the Vista. As for the Altimiter the calculated position is fine for my purposes and I've never even had the desire to try to use one even when I had a Vista for awhile. The compass at least once I turned it off most of the time I got used to being able to turn it on, on the rare occasion I wanted to see what it was going to tell me. Quote Link to comment
goodweather Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 The LegendC will give you altitude information based on GPS data. You will still have vertical profile data for the tracks. Yes, but the accuracy of the barometric altimeter is much better; it is close to 1 meter. The altitude given by GPS data is never more accurate than about 3-5 meters. Also, an FYI: If you take an altimeter onboard an airliner in a pressurized cabin, it will tell you that you're only 5,000 feet up when in reality the plane is actually at 41,000 feet. Measuring the altitude onboard an airliner with a barometric altimeter is, in my opinion, not something most people need to do... However, it true that in a car on the highway, the pressure is different from the actual atmopheric pressure because of the air speed around it and this can alter the measurements... Quote Link to comment
+Thrak Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 I have a unit with the compass and altimeter. I have no use at all for the altimeter but I LOVE the electronic compass. I'm sold on it. Quote Link to comment
+eranou Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 I recently purchased a Legend C and have to say that i'm very pleased with it. I chose it over the Vista C primarily because I have no use for an altimeter and also because I wouldn't like to rely solely on an electronic compass. I think that if you're a keen walker/geocacher then you should carry a compass with you anyway - for safety sake. I'd go for the Legend C but you really need to decide what you'll be using the GPSr for to make that decision I guess. Quote Link to comment
+ItsMeDave Posted September 14, 2005 Author Share Posted September 14, 2005 Thanks for the feedback everyone. I was leaning towards the Vista, you just gave me that extra little push to seal the deal. And I do recognize the importance of having a magnetic compass as backup. cheers Quote Link to comment
+ItsMeDave Posted September 16, 2005 Author Share Posted September 16, 2005 Well, I did it, I ordered the Vista C last night from gpscentral.ca. Should be here early next week. Can't wait. Quote Link to comment
+tands Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 I love the compass in our GPS, but I agree on having a real magnetic compass if you really depend on having an accurate compass. Here's a thread I started back when that explains why. I've showed this phenomenon to a bunch of folks who will verify that it's true. - T of TandS Quote Link to comment
peter Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 I love the compass in our GPS, but I agree on having a real magnetic compass if you really depend on having an accurate compass. Here's a thread I started back when that explains why. The compass in a Vista or similar GPS receiver *is* a "real magnetic compass" since the fluxgate sensor responds directly to the ambient magnetic field. If magnetic materials from pins in your wrist affect the fluxgate sensor then they'll also affect a small mechanical compass held in exactly the same location as that sensor. I remember being very upset about the performance of my new Suunto compass when I tried it for the first time at the lunch break on a hike and couldn't get my map to line up properly with the actual terrain. The reason became clear right after lunch when we turned a corner and saw a large pile of iron ore from an old mine only a few feet away. Of course there are other good and sufficient reasons to carry a separate compass since you don't want to depend entirely on a single complex electronic gadget like a GPS receiver. Even if extra batteries are carried, the GPS can easily fail for a wide variety of reasons. Quote Link to comment
+tands Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Didn't mean to get us off-topic. - T Quote Link to comment
+ItsMeDave Posted September 17, 2005 Author Share Posted September 17, 2005 No worries, it's all interesting. Quote Link to comment
+ItsMeDave Posted September 20, 2005 Author Share Posted September 20, 2005 My new Vista C arrived today and I've been playing around with it in demo mode. Can't wait to get out and use it. Quote Link to comment
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