+GeoBlank Posted August 16, 2005 Posted August 16, 2005 Nuclear reactors, would those roll up into another parent category? If you have nukes, coal plants, and other things... What would the parent be?
+WascoZooKeeper Posted August 16, 2005 Posted August 16, 2005 Along with bridges, could be a bit dicey snapping a picture of these . . . .
+hoovman Posted August 16, 2005 Posted August 16, 2005 Is it really a good idea to be Waymarking nuke plants? It seems to me that it is just inviting problems from people who don't understand the game.
+mtn-man Posted August 16, 2005 Posted August 16, 2005 I feel pretty sure that if you get out of your car with a GPS at the front gate that you will see several black cars and vans come out of nowhere in a hurry to find out what you are doing.
+GeoBlank Posted August 16, 2005 Author Posted August 16, 2005 Then should I call it de-comissioned nuke plants. Still, tourists take pictures of nuke plants daily. I don't see a big deal here. You can get the coords and a picture without getting too close
+treasure_hunter Posted August 17, 2005 Posted August 17, 2005 Sounds like a great way to get put in jail and investigated by the Federal Government! Then next thing you know Geocaching will take a huge hit from it also.
+Team GPSaxophone Posted August 17, 2005 Posted August 17, 2005 I vote against the category as proposed or something to that effect
+FtMgAl Posted August 17, 2005 Posted August 17, 2005 I don't see the problem. Most plants have some type of visitor center. I think it is an overreaction to think listing coordinates is a danger. As said, you can get a pretty good satellite photo of even the most restricted areas just by knowing the general location. For example: I know there is a plant somewhere around Clinton Illinois. I Google Clinton Nuclear. DOE list for Clinton with links to every other plant in Illinois. You can quickly find that the town of Clinton is located at 40°10'N 88°54'W. From there it only takes a few minutes at LostOutdoors to find 40.171716N -88.835769W and I would think that this would be a bigger threat than people showing up at the fence with a couple of kids and a GPS.
+hoovman Posted August 17, 2005 Posted August 17, 2005 (edited) For example:I know there is a plant somewhere around Clinton Illinois. I Google Clinton Nuclear. DOE list for Clinton with links to every other plant in Illinois. You can quickly find that the town of Clinton is located at 40°10'N 88°54'W. From there it only takes a few minutes at LostOutdoors to find 40.171716N -88.835769W and I would think that this would be a bigger threat than people showing up at the fence with a couple of kids and a GPS. We all know that. My objection is that non-cachers might not know that, and it could *appear* that we are a danger. Similar to my objection to using ammo cans without geocaching stickers on all sides. Edited August 17, 2005 by hoovman
+Skippy and Pingu Posted August 17, 2005 Posted August 17, 2005 (edited) Bad idea. I know for a fact that standing on the public road running down the side of the petroleum plant near us and taking a photo of it is a jailing offence. Edited August 17, 2005 by Skippy and Pingu
+hoovman Posted August 17, 2005 Posted August 17, 2005 ...I know for a fact that standing on the public road running down the side of the petroleum plant near us and taking a photo of it is a jailing offence. That sounds like a story! Any chance you logged that somewhere?
+Skippy and Pingu Posted August 17, 2005 Posted August 17, 2005 ...I know for a fact that standing on the public road running down the side of the petroleum plant near us and taking a photo of it is a jailing offence. That sounds like a story! Any chance you logged that somewhere? Sorry, boring story. Someone in my photography class took photos of it for a project and he got shipped of down to the local nick.
+welch Posted August 17, 2005 Posted August 17, 2005 Woot! I found one... DAEC How do I claim it?? Mostly I think this idea would be more likely to cause complaints than be a fun . Kinda like the Victorian post boxes locationless. (yea you can find all the addresses you want on google and free or cheap images elsewhere, but you know someones gonna claim because we're doing it, its bad )
+GeoBlank Posted August 17, 2005 Author Posted August 17, 2005 There is enough evidence in current virtuals, locationless, and eartch caches to support this type of category... http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...44-d9c2c2348ff9 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...d8-c45dfee29684 Missle Silo's, bomb shelters, you name it, there is a need for it. How can you archive exisitng items if the categories don't exist? Because there were no categories before did not keep them from being approved.
+welch Posted August 17, 2005 Posted August 17, 2005 WARNING! Do not make photos! It is prohibited, but there is no one notice about it! All park is under controlled by security cam's!
+esquimaux Posted August 18, 2005 Posted August 18, 2005 Maybe I'm just being post-9/11 paranoid, but I'm not sure I want an easy to use, provides downloadable coordinates, pictures, and casual comments about security, one-click webpage to find all the nuke plants in the US.
+Geovius Posted August 18, 2005 Posted August 18, 2005 Just google: nuclear plants in the usa and you get for example: Plants So I don't see any problems with that information.
+esquimaux Posted August 18, 2005 Posted August 18, 2005 Just google: nuclear plants in the usa and you get for example: Plants So I don't see any problems with that information. Well, okay, yeah, there is that. But that doesn't include all the other information I seem to be paranoid about. But I guess most of it's probably available without too much work.
+The Forester Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 Just try photographing and noting the GPS coords of a nuke plant in somewhere like North Korea, Iran, Israel or China and you will learn why this proposed category should not be accepted.
+GeoBlank Posted July 24, 2006 Author Posted July 24, 2006 This category is now live. I know that people had mixed feelings regarding nuke plants but based on feedback and the fact that you can get pictures and coordinates already from the web we went ahead and created a category.
+StagsRoar Posted July 24, 2006 Posted July 24, 2006 I can see both sides of the fence with this issue - but in light of Americas paranoia - albeit real or perceived, I think that this is one of those playing 'with Fire Issues'. If some nutter was to go and do something stupid with a Nuclear Plant or even attempt to - I'm quite sure when DHS is looking at the contributing/enticement factors then Groundspeak could take a hard hit over it as much as any other site such as Google Earth. But we can sit and watch snails whizz by and say "what if" till the second coming. But for myself - I say stay away & err on the side of caution. Besides - what in hell is so attractive & facinating about a Nuclear Power Plant that it needs to be waymarked in anycase. Why don't we also set up a category for Toxic Waste sites so we can all go get our picture taken and record the coordinates of 245D, PBC or enriched uranium Garbage heap. That way when we start to have babies with an eye in the centre of their head or 3 arms and a butt hole on it's left big toe - we can all know what coordinates it all originated from.
+Jake39 Posted July 24, 2006 Posted July 24, 2006 when we start to have babies with an eye in the centre of their head or 3 arms and a butt hole on it's left big toe - we can all know what coordinates it all originated from. Uuuuooohhh - Pretty strong words here Been there done that
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