+the hermit crabs Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Question for Ziggy Crew about the timer: say someone manages to solve it within the 5-minute limit, and then gets up and does a happy dance or something before writing the coords down. Does the 5-minute timer keep ticking after the puzzle is complete? (So does the solver need to not only solve it but also quickly copy it before the timer elapses?) Quote Link to comment
+Langner91 Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Ziggy, My kids have now tried it, my wife (who hates puzzles) has tried it. You have my family hooked, and we will probably never cache in your neck of the woods. If you would like to "license" your puzzle to other areas of the country, I would gladly sponsor a cache with different coordinates, similar puzzle and give you credit in the listing. I would love to see one of these in my area. That is too fun. On the fourth try, the timer stopped for me too. I am assuming that just naturally happens if someone tries it enough times? Which makes it good for everyone also. Quote Link to comment
+mini cacher Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 If anyone is interested (like OP) I spent about 30 minutes fixing this puzzle so it works in both IE and FireFox... so it can be done. Would be happy to pass off the fixed version to OP if interested. Quote Link to comment
+mini cacher Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Question for Ziggy Crew about the timer: say someone manages to solve it within the 5-minute limit, and then gets up and does a happy dance or something before writing the coords down. Does the 5-minute timer keep ticking after the puzzle is complete? (So does the solver need to not only solve it but also quickly copy it before the timer elapses?) the timer is nothing more than a page refresh. The puzzle itself does not even know when it is done. The user will visually see that the puzzle is correct... and the page refresh keeps on going. Short answer: Yes Quote Link to comment
+the hermit crabs Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 (edited) So how do you stop the clock? I wanna solve this stoopid thing! I just can't get it in 5 minutes. Phooey. I don't know if this caused the clock to stop, but the clock did appear to stop after I did it: when I was about halfway through, I decided to hit the browser's Refresh button. I was hoping it would reset the clock. Instead, it re-shuffled all the pieces (), so I didn't try doing that again. But after that, the puzzle stayed up for as long as I needed to finish it. I played around with it some more, and it appears that hitting the Refresh button does shut off the clock. I started it up, and eventually the 5-minute timer kicked in. I kept retrying the puzzle, and it timed out five more times (so the timer doesn't appear to automatically be disabled after four tries, as another poster had suggested). I then killed that window and started completely fresh, and in the first attempt I pressed the refresh button. I then had no time limit, and could finish at my own pace. (btw, it took me 11 minutes to put it together the second time -- and this was with a copied image of the solution sitting in an image editor, right next to the puzzle browser window! Man, I am slow ) edited for typos Edited August 10, 2005 by the hermit crabs Quote Link to comment
+Mushroom Doom Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 IMO there are too many tiles in the matrix & there are some indescriminate tiles as well that would frustrate the HELL outta me & I have a 140 I.Q.! Quote Link to comment
+EcoPit Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 I have to agree with CompuCash--I am not sure five minutes is enough time. It is a very neat idea though. I would do it if it were in my area. I disagree, its his puzzle its no different then going to find a 5* Difficulty cache that you have to decode or decrypt the cache page. He could simply make it a 5* Difficulty. Keep up the good work!! Of course, it is his cache and he can do it any way he pleases. But he asked for our opinions on it, which is what I gave. I didn't say he had to change it, and I did say it is a neat idea and I would try it regardless. Quote Link to comment
+medic208 Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 After hitting the refresh button, I was able to finish the puzzle. Lots of fun... but I'm a long way from the cache - lol. Thanks Quote Link to comment
+Johnnie Stalkers Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Ok, that's pretty cool and I must admit I spent more time on it than I should have. Well done. Are those thae actual coords? <Reaching for GPS> Quote Link to comment
newmonster Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Very Cool! Did it take a lot of time? Quote Link to comment
+Wacka Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Make it work with Firefox and Safari. IE is a dinosaur that is on its way to extinction. Also have no tme limit or a much longer one. Quote Link to comment
+Team Sauk Trail Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 I think it is AWESOME!!! I wouldn't change a thing Quote Link to comment
+DocDiTTo Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Liked it, haven't solved it yet but doing it within 5 minutes would probably kill me. Used the refresh trick to buy more time. Got signal and the jeep put together, as well as the borders, but the text is tough. Nice idea though. I too would have liked to see it firefox compatible, and the intro was really, super, extremely, kill-me-now annoying. Ok, maybe I'm exagerating, but the intro needs to be sped up, and the ready-set-go thing could be dropped completely. Love the concept; definitely a good one to work on on a lunch break. Actually, perhaps even something bigger with more pieces would be cool, something that could take a long time to finish, like a jigsaw puzzle. Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 The text was hard for me to do, also. Eventually, I kinda ignored the text and concentrated on matching colors. Quote Link to comment
+Ziggy Crew Posted August 10, 2005 Author Share Posted August 10, 2005 Question for Ziggy Crew about the timer: say someone manages to solve it within the 5-minute limit, and then gets up and does a happy dance or something before writing the coords down. Does the 5-minute timer keep ticking after the puzzle is complete? (So does the solver need to not only solve it but also quickly copy it before the timer elapses?) Don't do the happy dance for to long or you will loose out Quote Link to comment
+Ziggy Crew Posted August 10, 2005 Author Share Posted August 10, 2005 If anyone is interested (like OP) I spent about 30 minutes fixing this puzzle so it works in both IE and FireFox... so it can be done. Would be happy to pass off the fixed version to OP if interested. Cool!!! Could you email me the code so I can use it for firefox users? Quote Link to comment
+Loch Cache Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 If you would like to "license" your puzzle to other areas of the country, I would gladly sponsor a cache with different coordinates, similar puzzle and give you credit in the listing. I too like the puzzle. Solved it on the second try without stopping the clock or printing it out. Seems like a cool idea. I'd be delighted to see a puzzle like this in my area and would be happy to hide a nice cache to be the final. A twist might be a two stage multi where the first stage has the url for the second puzzle. Just place the first stage near a library. Not being a coder I don't know what would be involved in setting one up to run on multi-platforms, but most people I know who use Firefox or other non-IE browsers still have IE on their systems. If not, that's what the public library is for. Just list on the cache page "Special Equipment" is needed to complete this cache. Loch Cache Quote Link to comment
+The Divine Ones Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 HOW WICKED!! Having not read the whole thread, I just went and tried the puzzle. I was SO CLOSE when the timer expired! AAarrgghh!! Quote Link to comment
+mini cacher Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 If anyone is interested (like OP) I spent about 30 minutes fixing this puzzle so it works in both IE and FireFox... so it can be done. Would be happy to pass off the fixed version to OP if interested. Cool!!! Could you email me the code so I can use it for firefox users? email sent. Quote Link to comment
+Ziggy Crew Posted August 10, 2005 Author Share Posted August 10, 2005 If anyone is interested (like OP) I spent about 30 minutes fixing this puzzle so it works in both IE and FireFox... so it can be done. Would be happy to pass off the fixed version to OP if interested. Cool!!! Could you email me the code so I can use it for firefox users? email sent. Thanks Mini Cacher! Quote Link to comment
+treasure_hunter Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 So how do you stop the clock? I wanna solve this stoopid thing! I just can't get it in 5 minutes. Phooey. I don't know if this caused the clock to stop, but the clock did appear to stop after I did it: when I was about halfway through, I decided to hit the browser's Refresh button. I was hoping it would reset the clock. Instead, it re-shuffled all the pieces (), so I didn't try doing that again. But after that, the puzzle stayed up for as long as I needed to finish it. Thats what I did! Quote Link to comment
+Ziggy Crew Posted August 11, 2005 Author Share Posted August 11, 2005 Ok all you firefox users. With some BIG help from mini cacher. And I must say Thank You! I have the puzzle for firefox. Give it a shot here! Let me know how it works! Quote Link to comment
+the hermit crabs Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 I tried it with Firefox. The puzzle shows up, but I can't move any pieces. Quote Link to comment
+CompuCash Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 (edited) IMO there are too many tiles in the matrix & there are some indescriminate tiles as well that would frustrate the HELL outta me & I have a 140 I.Q.! 142 and it did frustrate the hell out of me!!! not sure what you mean, but there were several with the same color tone that made it very difficult to finish. having the 5 minute reset really frustrated me making me start over from the beginning. It really is a great puzzle and I enjoyed it. I dropped one of the menus after a move - it seemed to stop the clock. cc\ Edited August 11, 2005 by CompuCash Quote Link to comment
+mini cacher Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 I tried it with Firefox. The puzzle shows up, but I can't move any pieces. my bad. I was not totally clear with my instructions. email sent to OP. Quote Link to comment
+treasure_hunter Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 The same happened to me. Quote Link to comment
+the hermit crabs Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 (edited) Also there is extra white space between each row on the Firefox version. Edited August 11, 2005 by the hermit crabs Quote Link to comment
+Bear Paughs Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 You need to make it so it stops after you solve it! I finally got it, with seconds to spare, but it went back to the black screens before I would have had time to write down the answer. Got it a second time, with more time to spare, but barely. But I LOVE the idea! So much fun! Quote Link to comment
+Ziggy Crew Posted August 11, 2005 Author Share Posted August 11, 2005 ok! i'm getting there. Try it now. Quote Link to comment
+mini cacher Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Also there is extra white space between each row on the Firefox version. I don't know where that came from. I don't see it on my original copy. Quote Link to comment
+Ziggy Crew Posted August 11, 2005 Author Share Posted August 11, 2005 Also there is extra white space between each row on the Firefox version. I don't know where that came from. I don't see it on my original copy. Did I goof??? Quote Link to comment
+mini cacher Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 (edited) We used different doctypes. Mine looks like this: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> no white space in puzzle with this one. white space with yours. Your first IE only puzzle had the white space in Firefox as well. I just didn't notice it before. Edited August 11, 2005 by mini cacher Quote Link to comment
+Ziggy Crew Posted August 11, 2005 Author Share Posted August 11, 2005 If you would like to "license" your puzzle to other areas of the country, I would gladly sponsor a cache with different coordinates, similar puzzle and give you credit in the listing. I too like the puzzle. Solved it on the second try without stopping the clock or printing it out. Seems like a cool idea. I'd be delighted to see a puzzle like this in my area and would be happy to hide a nice cache to be the final. A twist might be a two stage multi where the first stage has the url for the second puzzle. Just place the first stage near a library. Not being a coder I don't know what would be involved in setting one up to run on multi-platforms, but most people I know who use Firefox or other non-IE browsers still have IE on their systems. If not, that's what the public library is for. Just list on the cache page "Special Equipment" is needed to complete this cache. Loch Cache If any one wants to use this idea, its fine with me. I put a lot of time in this. the only thing that I ask is that you mention me in the listing that I am the creator of this type of cache. Thanks Quote Link to comment
+Ziggy Crew Posted August 11, 2005 Author Share Posted August 11, 2005 All fixed now!!! i hope! Quote Link to comment
+the hermit crabs Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 All fixed now!!! i hope! All fixed -- maybe too fixed! The Refresh cheat doesn't work in Firefox Quote Link to comment
+Pork King Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 I couldn't take the pressure, so I worked out a way to do the puzzle without worrying about the five minute limit. I can see it now. You've captured the puzzle, printed it, cut it apart, and now you've got all the pieces spread out on a card table with a glass of iced tea! I ALMOST did that last night when I first tried it, but I got bored. Quote Link to comment
Clan Riffster Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Ziggy, you're evil! Great idea! Quote Link to comment
+OienLabs Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Using IE 6. Refresh stopped the clock. Took me 19 mins. to solve the puzzle. Fun though. I say, go for it. Quote Link to comment
+Jester2112 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Awesome idea. I'd love to use it on one of my hides. I won't admit how long it took me to solve it, but wow! GREAT idea! Quote Link to comment
+Ziggy Crew Posted August 12, 2005 Author Share Posted August 12, 2005 Liked it, haven't solved it yet but doing it within 5 minutes would probably kill me. Used the refresh trick to buy more time. Got signal and the jeep put together, as well as the borders, but the text is tough. Nice idea though. I too would have liked to see it firefox compatible, and the intro was really, super, extremely, kill-me-now annoying. Ok, maybe I'm exagerating, but the intro needs to be sped up, and the ready-set-go thing could be dropped completely. Love the concept; definitely a good one to work on on a lunch break. Actually, perhaps even something bigger with more pieces would be cool, something that could take a long time to finish, like a jigsaw puzzle. Ok! here goes. I am currently working on a larger and a bit harder puzzle with no time limit. When I finish it I will create a new thread so that everyone can try it again. Currently, with the help from mini cacher, the puzzle that is listed here now works in Netscape and Firefox, as well with IE. Some of you found a way to bypass the refresh option in IE. So in that case that is why I will make a larger and harder puzzle to be solved. I am aiming it to be a 5* difficulty to really make it a challange. Any one who wishes to create a cache like this can email me with there wishes, I only ask that you give me some time to create it for you. I will publish the puzzle on my site and you can put a link to the puzzle on your cache page. Thanks for all the great help to everyone who posted. Quote Link to comment
+mini cacher Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Currently, with the help from mini cacher, the puzzle that is listed here now works in Netscape and Firefox, as well with IE. For what it is worth, the FireFox one works with IE as well. At least it works with the IE-based viewer in my development tool. Perhaps an actual IE user could varify this. then there is no need for two seperate ones. Quote Link to comment
+Ziggy Crew Posted August 12, 2005 Author Share Posted August 12, 2005 Here is a bigger puzzle only in IE for now. Give it a shot. Click here. This one has no time limit. Let me know how long it took you. Thanks. Hope you like it. Quote Link to comment
+the hermit crabs Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 (edited) Here is a bigger puzzle only in IE for now. Give it a shot. Click here. This one has no time limit. Let me know how long it took you. Thanks. Hope you like it. It timed out after 5 minutes edit: and after the timeout, it reverted back to the older, smaller puzzle for the second try. Edited August 12, 2005 by the hermit crabs Quote Link to comment
+Ziggy Crew Posted August 12, 2005 Author Share Posted August 12, 2005 Here is a bigger puzzle only in IE for now. Give it a shot. Click here. This one has no time limit. Let me know how long it took you. Thanks. Hope you like it. It timed out after 5 minutes edit: and after the timeout, it reverted back to the older, smaller puzzle for the second try. OOOps! All fixed! Quote Link to comment
+the hermit crabs Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 (edited) I have to say I like the other one better... I don't know how long this one took me (check the time difference between this post and the previous one). I have it to the point where I can see what the coords are, and I have the hint, but the puzzle is not put together correctly. I have a bunch of separately-put-together sections, and I still can't quite see how they're supposed to be laid out. If I were doing this for real, I would stop right now since I'd have enough information to find the cache, but I'd never actually see the completed picture. (edit: I went back to it later and eventually did put all the pieces in the correct order. total time was about 40 minutes to get all the info needed, and another 20 minutes to make everything pretty. I imagine it would have take longer if I hadn't already done the smaller version before.) Edited August 12, 2005 by the hermit crabs Quote Link to comment
+Team Red Oak Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 (edited) I started at 12:10 and finished at 12:42 in IE. I know in an earlier post I said I wouldn't be able to do it at work, but it's Friday, it's slow and it's lunch time. I love these puzzles. Ziggy is an evil genius (I mean that in a kind way, I don't want to break the rules with name calling) I just hope the cache isn't hidden in a field of rocks. I can't wait to get home and have my husband try this in firefox. Almost forgot: No problems with the puzzle at all. Edited August 12, 2005 by Team Red Oak Quote Link to comment
+WhatsRNutts Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 ok, I have too many side peices and corners!! Quote Link to comment
+WhatsRNutts Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 I got the right side done but there is to much of a glare on my screen to finish the left side so I will ahve to save it for later! Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 25 minutes to finish the big one Quote Link to comment
+onetrapper Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Do mean like this one? Quote Link to comment
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