The New Jersey Thread

August 16, 2005

I mean?

You mean we shouldn't just post in here to keep the thread going?

Or we could just keep quoting until the quote boxes get down to one inch across

August 16, 2005

I mean?

You mean we shouldn't just post in here to keep the thread going?

Or we could just keep quoting until the quote boxes get down to one inch across

But then again, that HAS been done already

August 16, 2005

Submitted for approval:

Somewhere in Somerset (GCPTJK) (4.5/2)

Good luck!

--TT--

P.S. Have a nice day!

38.2k · August 16, 2005

I mean?

You mean we shouldn't just post in here to keep the thread going?

Or we could just keep quoting until the quote boxes get down to one inch across

But then again, that HAS been done already

When?

10.1k · August 16, 2005

Submitted for approval:

Somewhere in Somerset (GCPTJK) (4.5/2)

Good luck!

--TT--

P.S. Have a nice day!

Okay, Tuckson, descriminate against us peons.

August 17, 2005

Okay, Tuckson, descriminate against us peons.

That's a new one..... for spelling Tucson that is.

I've seen:

Tuscon

Tuson

Toosan

Tucsahn

Texan

and my personal fav...

Toquesan

(that one musta been from a Canadian, eh?)

August 19, 2005

A congratulations and gold medal award to trowel32! First to find "Somewhere in Somerset".

Good Job!

-TT--

August 22, 2005

I recommend trying NB44's new puzzle cache Go Figure. Another excellent addition to the NB44 collection! :lol:

August 25, 2005

As I am finally starting to make a dent on the caches in my home area, I realized that of my 20 closest unfound caches, 8 of them are hard puzzles! :unsure: <_< I am doomed! I need to move somewhere else to be able to clean out a 10 mile radius zone. Perhaps I need a new goal, like clean out a 1 mile zone...no wait...one of those puzzles is 0.2 miles from my home, great.

Edited August 25, 2005 by LocaRoja

August 25, 2005

Trying to clear out a 10 miles circle? Do a search based on zip 07438 and you will find 10 pages and most of an 11th are within 10 miles. A total of 214 caches within 10 miles (these are highlands caches, not urban micros <_< ).

38.2k · August 25, 2005

Trying to clear out a 10 miles circle? Do a search based on zip 07438 and you will find 10 pages and most of an 11th are within 10 miles. A total of 214 caches within 10 miles (these are highlands caches, not urban micros ).

Hey, be glad you live in northern NJ. Knock on wood we haven't seen the micro spew that other areas deal with. There are people in some regions who would sell their GPS to have the percentage of quality caches that are in the 07438 area.

Edited August 25, 2005 by briansnat

1.2k · August 25, 2005

Trying to clear out a 10 miles circle? Do a search based on zip 07438 and you will find 10 pages and most of an 11th are within 10 miles. A total of 214 caches within 10 miles (these are highlands caches, not urban micros ).

Wow, I can barely get 5 pages from my home zip.

The best part, is I still have quit a few caches to get within the 10 radius.

I think I have less unfound caches in Wharton State Forrest then in Central NJ.

Sorry Loca, I guess I'm somewhat responsible for your misery

Edited August 26, 2005 by ekitt10

August 25, 2005

Sorry Loca, I guess I'm somewhat responsible for you misery

I feel the sympathy over the duress you're causing me oozing out of your GPS.

Yeah, so if anyone wants to work on the non-earth caches (the moon and venus puzzles), let me know.

1.3k · August 25, 2005

...no wait...one of those puzzles is 0.2 miles from my home, great.

Place a cache in your yard. Then you'll have a 100-foot radius.

August 25, 2005

Trying to clear out a 10 miles circle? Do a search based on zip 07438 and you will find 10 pages and most of an 11th are within 10 miles. A total of 214 caches within 10 miles (these are highlands caches, not urban micros ).

Oh Boo Hoo. I have too many quality caches close to my home :huh:

August 25, 2005

Trying to clear out a 10 miles circle? Do a search based on zip 07438 and you will find 10 pages and most of an 11th are within 10 miles. A total of 214 caches within 10 miles (these are highlands caches, not urban micros ).

Oh Boo Hoo. I have too many quality caches close to my home

Oh, we're not COMPLAINING!

So may caches.. so little time

10.1k · August 25, 2005

Out of 160 on my current Ten-Mile List, I have 23 yet to find. Doesn't count the one's I've put out, or the archived ones.

You want a nasty Ten-Mile List, try Andy Bear's from 07093. Only 154 current caches, but, they're spread out across Bergen, Hudson, Essex, Passaic, New York, Queens, Brooklyn and The Bronx Counties!

And that's not counting the twenty that we've found that have been archived!

Edited August 25, 2005 by Harry Dolphin

August 26, 2005

Okay, so everyone has a difficult zone to clear out, point acknowledged...but, it doesn't make me any happier when I look at my closest 20 unfound page. :laughing:

I need a geocaching fairy godmother to make all of the solutions to these mystery caches just pop into my head! :lol:

...and as an update, there are now 9 hard puzzles within 8 miles of my home I have left to find. :lol: Stop the pain... :huh:

Edited August 26, 2005 by LocaRoja

August 26, 2005

I wouldn't complain about caches being with-in ten miles from my house...I have most of them cleared out for twenty miles and now I have to travel far and wide to go caching and the gas prices just keep going up and up !!!!!

August 26, 2005

edited to remove post...wrong person logged in.

Edited August 26, 2005 by TucsonThompsen

August 26, 2005

Yeah, I feel your pain on the gas prices...this morning I filled up my Accord for 40 bucks! OUCH!

:rolleyes:

August 26, 2005

While caching last night in Kingston, I grabbed three caches in a row (Cook Stream, Kingston Cache #2, and Cipher Cache Alpha) that were all removed from their hiding spot and exposed to view. Strange coincidence? Thoughts? :rolleyes:

Edited August 26, 2005 by LocaRoja

10.1k · August 26, 2005

LocaRoja, it seems to happen. We found three in a row in Loantaka Brook that were out in the open. Animals? Inappropriate things in the cache that attract animals? Cachers who are not good at rehiding caches? ¿Quien sabe?

August 26, 2005

I wouldn't complain about caches being with-in ten miles from my house...I have most of them cleared out for twenty miles and now I have to travel far and wide to go caching and the gas prices just keep going up and up !!!!!

Fall is coming! When it cools off, I intend to retire a few series and place new ones to repopulate your within 20 mile radius. :rolleyes:

August 26, 2005

I wouldn't complain about caches being with-in ten miles from my house...I have most of them cleared out for twenty miles and now I have to travel far and wide to go caching and the gas prices just keep going up and up !!!!!

Fall is coming! When it cools off, I intend to retire a few series and place new ones to repopulate your within 20 mile radius.

More TRL Caches....I like the sounds of that!!!!

August 27, 2005

I've seen this in a couple logs lately. What does "borderline illegal" mean? I'm not looking for particlulars of any cache just trying to figure out what the term would mean. The edge of private property or national park? Too close to an airport??

Mike

1.1k · August 28, 2005

The ones you've seen refered to were, probably, the near buried caches. There are many around, and I'm not completely innocent, myself.

August 28, 2005

What does "borderline illegal" mean?

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In reference to me (yes...I'll call myself out on this) labelling certain hides, "borderline illegal"., I am referring to those caches which are nearly buried, or have become buried by nature. I've found a rash of hides out here that are buried up to the neck of the container in the ground leaving only the lid exposed. Usually these tend to be in really really dense forests which winds up having them become effectively fully buried by the leaves, twigs, and other detritus from the seasonal variations of the forest. I found one recently that, while intended to be stick out a few inches above the surface, was actually buried by the leaves and other stuff to a depth of five inches. I found it only because my walking pole punched through and hit something that felt not like dirt and normal forest floor.

So I guess when I mean "borderline illegal", I mean they were placed in legal fashion originally, but now have become fully buried, and thus now could be considered illegal hides.

I refer you all to GC.com's own regs on this:

"Caches that are buried. If a shovel, trowel or other “pointy” object is used to dig, whether in order to hide or to find the cache, then it is not appropriate. "

Oh well. I just find them. And It makes it all the more sweeter when you do find something evilly placed. :wub:

Comments from the peanut gallery?

--TT--

Edited August 28, 2005 by TucsonThompsen

August 28, 2005

The key to these hides is the pointy object rule. The use of naturally occuring holes and hollows is fair game. You will see a lot of hides covered with leaves and pine needles in the area. Walking sticks are good for tapping around the area when you suspect that kind of hide. They are also good for probing natural holes and cavities to ensure nature does not jump out of one at you.

August 29, 2005

I realized that of my 20 closest unfound caches, 8 of them are hard puzzles! I am doomed!

And now you have a new puzzler to contend with. <snicker, snicker>

I think I'll never clear out this area, since others have adopted his evil caches. I guess I'll just have to clear out the area sans puzzles.

August 31, 2005

Thanks for clearing up the "borderline illegal" question. We're still working on ideas for our first cache so didn't want to do anything stupid. Although that's still a possibility.

Mike

August 31, 2005

If a shovel, trowel or other “pointy” object is used to dig, whether in order to hide or to find the cache, then it is not appropriate. "

What if a "trowel32" is used to find the cache

Ha ha - bad joke...sorry

September 1, 2005

If a shovel, trowel or other “pointy” object is used to dig, whether in order to hide or to find the cache, then it is not appropriate. "

What if a "trowel32" is used to find the cache

Ha ha - bad joke...sorry

Punny

September 1, 2005

If a shovel, trowel or other “pointy” object is used to dig, whether in order to hide or to find the cache, then it is not appropriate. "

What if a "trowel32" is used to find the cache

Ha ha - bad joke...sorry

Punny

I don't think T32 would appreciate being used as an implement of destruction.

However the pointed object rule could apply to just about any of us geeky folk with pointed heads who go looking for these crazy puzzle caches!

1.2k · September 1, 2005

What if a "trowel32" is used to find the cache

I've found that method to work well.

She's also pretty good at clearing out spiderwebs on the path.

... labelling certain hides, "borderline illegal"., I am referring to those caches which are nearly buried, or have become buried by nature.

Regarding the buried cache issue, I think it widely accepted any cache placed, where you need to dig up the ground like looking for Black Beards treasure is just plan ridiculous.

However, a cache placed in boarder line manner, isn't nearly as bad. It's "evil", but does it cause as much stress on the enviorment as plastic contaner in a rotten log or hollow tree stump?

Maybe Im missing something, but this doesn't seem as damaging to the environment as a cache placed in a rotten log. A rotten log is home to many type of ground insects, newts and salamanders. Which in turn, become a good location of food for the small furry critters of the woods. The more a rotten log is broken down by man, the more stress is caused to these critters as their home gets destroyed. Coarse Woody Debris

I've seen lots of crazy things at cache sites, and I've even witness some cachers doing such things as ripping bark off of trees, kicking over hollowed trees, splitting rotten logs, and ripping out ground cover. WTF? All are much worst then a cache that's "buried" up to it's lid.

</devil's advocate>

September 1, 2005

Maybe Im missing something, but this doesn't seem as damaging to the environment as a cache placed in a rotten log. A rotten log is home to many type of ground insects, newts and salamanders. Which in turn, become a good location of food for the small furry critters of the woods. The more a rotten log is broken down by man, the more stress is caused to these critters as their home gets destroyed.

The rationale for hiding a cache ANYWHERE goes quickly down hill if you start following this logic.

You could argue that hiding a cache in a crevace behind a rock could displace a snake. Covering a cache with leaves could displace frogs. Encouraging someone to walk through the woods this time of the year certainly displaces spiders (eaten more than my share). Or that group hunts traumatize vultures...

I consider tree stumps, dead logs and sticks fair game. I am much more put off by caches affixed to live trees with screws/bolts, caches placed amongst delicate vegitation (swamps, bogs) and micros in amongst bushes that require the searcher to pull them apart during the search.

September 3, 2005

What's up with all the geocoin icons on the event pages. I realize there are different types of geocoins, but are seven IDENTICAL icons really necessary :laughing: It's messing up my NJ search page so I have to scroll way over to see the actual caches - very annoying Can't they wrap them around or something?

September 3, 2005

Oh wait, sorry...make that EIGHT identical icons :laughing:

September 3, 2005

Perhaps this is taking the icon thing too far! :laughing: I thought the page was still loading and then I realized all the pertinent information was off the screen on the right.

Does anyone have any advice about the best time of year to find Melvin's Multiple Madness cache (needed for Magoo Merit cache)? As much as I'm looking forward to climbing through mud for a day, I was wondering if it is better to attempt this one in summer or winter? :laughing:

Thanks and hope all enjoy the long weekend

:sad:

Edited September 4, 2005 by LocaRoja

1.1k · September 4, 2005

I consider late summer/early fall a good time. You definitely don't want to risk getting wet in the middle of winter. Phragmites are more of a concern right now, but they are not all that bad.

September 6, 2005

Does anyone have any advice about the best time of year to find Melvin's Multiple Madness cache (needed for Magoo Merit cache)? As much as I'm looking forward to climbing through mud for a day, I was wondering if it is better to attempt this one in summer or winter?

I'm also eyeing Melvin. I thought that kayaking in sounds like a good option, however, I don't own a kayak. Also, generally it seems that it would be better to do this one in a team rather than alone. If some more folks are up for it, and someone knows someone with equipment, perhaps we can mount an attack before it gets too cold.

September 6, 2005

You are most likely going to get wet unless you wear hip waders, so it's probably best to do Melvin's when its warmer out. I just wore hiking boots with gaiters and only got wet below the knees (the gaiters really did nothing to help though). The best thing I brought with me was a pair of rubber gloves. They were great when I had to scramble up the stream/creek banks since the mud didn't really adhere to them -- and yes, I needed my hands to climb up and outta that mess :lol:

September 6, 2005

I would love to tackle this cache as part of a group. I don't have a kayak, but I am free this saturday or sunday.

38.2k · September 6, 2005

Maybe Im missing something, but this doesn't seem as damaging to the environment as a cache placed in a rotten log. A rotten log is home to many type of ground insects, newts and salamanders. Which in turn, become a good location of food for the small furry critters of the woods. The more a rotten log is broken down by man, the more stress is caused to these critters as their home gets destroyed.

What's the difference if the rotting log is disturbed by a man looking for a cache, a bear looking for grubs or a herd of deer walking over it? Also, I've been in the woods and haven't noticed a shortage of rotting logs.

Does anyone have any advice about the best time of year to find Melvin's Multiple Madness cache (needed for Magoo Merit cache)? As much as I'm looking forward to climbing through mud for a day, I was wondering if it is better to attempt this one in summer or winter?

To enjoy the full Melvin's experience, it should be tackled in the summer. If you want to make it a bit easier do it in the winter like I did.

I thought that kayaking in sounds like a good option, however, I don't own a kayak

It isn't. It would be mostly useless and more of a pain to carry around than its worth.

Edited September 7, 2005 by briansnat

September 6, 2005

The coming weekend works for me. Sunday early in the morning is probably best, leaving Saturday for chores. Anybody else up for it (EMT, coast guard, rescue choppers, etc.)?

September 6, 2005

This sunday, Sept 11th, low tide is at 7:25 AM, so a 7 AM start would be ideal....

September 6, 2005

I'm in! Yee-haw! Is there a good general meeting place or are the starting coords a good spot? Anyone? Anyone?

--TT--

September 6, 2005

7 am sounds great. A little earlier probably wouldn't hurt either; sunrise is ~6:30, so that'd be my vote. The posted parking coordinates seem as good as any. Also, not meeting separately before at some other location likely will cut down on time.

September 6, 2005

6:30 is probably better, but I may damage my bedroom wall when I hear my alarm go off so early on a weekend! :laughing:

Okay, so 6:30 am at the starting parking coordinates on Sunday September 11th! Here we come, Melvin! :laughing:

8.1k · September 6, 2005

There is parking at the starting coordinates.

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