+rutson Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Full Story here Basically the idea is you store a number to be called in case of emergency in your mobile under the name 'ICE'. Sounds like a good idea to me. Quote Link to comment
Deego Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 What a simple but good idea. Quote Link to comment
+John & Hazel Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Seems like a very good idea Quote Link to comment
+Bekandian Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 So simple yet so important. I added all my emergency numbers into my mobile as soon as I read it. Quote Link to comment
+Marvo434 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 I was about to add this as a topic! A great, effective and simple idea. Quote Link to comment
+Pengy&Tigger Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Perhaps you could have ICCE - In case of caching emergency. I bet Rutson would have a few of these! Quote Link to comment
+klaus23 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Can't fault that one. Just added my (Dad's) number for ICE (Ireland) and my SO's number for ICE (Britain). Now if only this could be more public? Or is this already S.O.P. for the emergency services in Britain and Ireland? Quote Link to comment
+kbootb Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 They've mentioned it a few times on the news items following the bombing just to see if they get a public reaction. Nothing negative seems to have been heard. It seems to be spreading 'virally'. hard to judge how universal it is as most people I know are like geocachers and pick up on these 'semi-tech' waves. I wonder if the great majority of the 'muggle-like' population picked up on it. I'll add it to mine, but friends in the emergency services always look for 'home' and 'mum' in the phone book if they recover a phone from an incident. Quote Link to comment
+Learned Gerbil Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 The negative side I have found is that if the number is the same asa number you already have in your addressbook, then the phone has no idea who is calling as it thinks two people have the same number so fails to play the approproiate tone etc. It also means you can't have two tones, one for normal, and one for when the ICE is triggered. Jackie and I have had to remove our usual entries, and just leave the relevant ICE one (with name attached) so tha tthe phone can at least display some sort of caller ID. Quote Link to comment
+kbootb Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Good point LG, didn't affect dialling out, but I have yet to test what it does when receiving from that number. I wonder if it takes it in alphabetical order. I have taken to putting a. b. and c. in front of entries so that the names I need most often float to the top of my alphabetical list and those I need one or twice a year are at the bottom. Quote Link to comment
NickPick Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 I'd get confused, as I'm a member if the Institute of Civil Engineers, and already have their number under ICE! Quote Link to comment
+Learned Gerbil Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Good point LG, didn't affect dialling out, but I have yet to test what it does when receiving from that number. I wonder if it takes it in alphabetical order. I have taken to putting a. b. and c. in front of entries so that the names I need most often float to the top of my alphabetical list and those I need one or twice a year are at the bottom. If the authorities in an emergency are looking for the ICE contact, it will have to start with ICE - but you can work round that by making sure that the other entries all start with letters other than I. As for alphabetical order - my Nokia doesn't work like that. If a call is recieved from a number that has more than one addressbook entry it just displays the number which is a pain. Quote Link to comment
Deego Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 You can always put the number in the name and leave the number blank I.E name : ICE 01234 123456 number : its better than nothing. Quote Link to comment
+68 GUNS Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 I think that as an ongoing push to making this a std thing for all mobile carriers, the manufacturers should include an ICE contact page as a separate menu item. Alternatively, maybe one phonebook entry could be selected which would then be highlighted as the ICE contact, thereby not affecting the phones other features. I know some of the users of this forum are more up on the firmware for mobiles, so could this be done as a flash upgrade to existing phones? With all new models this should be done as standard! Don't forget to also put your ICE contact details on your owner details page page in your PDA, and you could also add it to your GPS with the addition of the waypoint!! Whatever happens, I would have thought the emergency services would use their own system to make the contact rather than using the victims own mobile, so you are less likely to get a call from a number you recognise, with a strange voice telling you that your friend or loved one is hurt or worse. Quote Link to comment
+Daisy&me Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 The negative side I have found is that if the number is the same asa number you already have in your addressbook, then the phone has no idea who is calling as it thinks two people have the same number so fails to play the approproiate tone etc. It also means you can't have two tones, one for normal, and one for when the ICE is triggered. Jackie and I have had to remove our usual entries, and just leave the relevant ICE one (with name attached) so tha tthe phone can at least display some sort of caller ID. If you add an extra number to the end of your ICE number it will still be dialled OK but will not match an incoming call so your phone will correctly identify the caller as 'Home' or whatever you called it. Work for my phone/number anyway. Quote Link to comment
+kbootb Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Whatever happens, I would have thought the emergency services would use their own system to make the contact rather than using the victims own mobile, so you are less likely to get a call from a number you recognise, with a strange voice telling you that your friend or loved one is hurt or worse. They don't intend to call from that phone, but once they have the number they can use it to track down the contact and make a visit, or call from an official centre. As you said, a call looking like it was coming from the mobile would be dreadful. They are also suggesting that if possible, under the ICE to enter a landline and mobile. My phone certainly lets me put in 'general, mobile, home, office and fax' for every name. So the entries could actually be for different people, e.g. wife on mobile, mum on general. Just increases the chance of them contacting someone. Quote Link to comment
+kbootb Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 (edited) If you add an extra number to the end of your ICE number it will still be dialled OK but will not match an incoming call so your phone will correctly identify the caller as 'Home' or whatever you called it. Work for my phone/number anyway. Clever, just hope it doesn't fool the people who are trying to use it. As I stated, they are not intending to dial using that phone, but to copy the number out and dial from a casulty centre or similar. If they see an incorrectly formed number, would they guess to take the last number off? Here's a website that might be of interest. Edited July 11, 2005 by kbootb Quote Link to comment
NickPick Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 If they see an incorrectly formed number, would they guess to take the last number off? Even if they don't, the phone system will ignore it (well, BT and T-mobile will - I haven't tested any others) Quote Link to comment
+Learned Gerbil Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 The negative side I have found is that if the number is the same asa number you already have in your addressbook, then the phone has no idea who is calling as it thinks two people have the same number so fails to play the approproiate tone etc. It also means you can't have two tones, one for normal, and one for when the ICE is triggered. Jackie and I have had to remove our usual entries, and just leave the relevant ICE one (with name attached) so tha tthe phone can at least display some sort of caller ID. If you add an extra number to the end of your ICE number it will still be dialled OK but will not match an incoming call so your phone will correctly identify the caller as 'Home' or whatever you called it. Work for my phone/number anyway. That is a clever idea - I will have to try it. Quote Link to comment
+kbootb Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Another solution, just add ICE to the front of any name so you only have one entry for that person. e.g. ICE mum The phone then knows who is calling. OK so it displays ICE mum, but I can live with that. Means you can also have a number of ICE contacts so if one is not avaialable they can try the next one. Also gives the services an idea who they are calling. If the entry was just ICE then they wouldn't have a name. Quote Link to comment
+Skippy and Pingu Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 They are also suggesting that if possible, under the ICE to enter a landline and mobile. My phone certainly lets me put in 'general, mobile, home, office and fax' for every name. So the entries could actually be for different people, e.g. wife on mobile, mum on general. Just increases the chance of them contacting someone. For those of us with ancient phones who can't do this they suggest to have ICE1, ICE2, ICE3 etc. I have done this with my brick! They then know the order in which to call as well so my next of kin are contacted in the order I would like them to be. If my phone identifies an incoming call as ICE1 instead of "home" I know that ICE1 is our house number so I answer the call knowing its home. So incoming call identification isn't a problem as long as you remember whats on each ICE. Quote Link to comment
+DomHeknows Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 The negative side I have found is that if the number is the same asa number you already have in your addressbook, then the phone has no idea who is calling as it thinks two people have the same number so fails to play the approproiate tone etc. It also means you can't have two tones, one for normal, and one for when the ICE is triggered. worse still is the *&(&(*^(^ samsung phones you get over here - you CAN'T have two people with the same number. So I can't have home and ICE. The only way around it is to program a pause onto the end of the phone number for one of the numbers. Quote Link to comment
+DomHeknows Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 oh and the other slight drawback is that you'd need to leave your phone unlocked so the emergency services can get into it. They may not always have a 13yr old kid handy to "break the lock" to access the phone memory. Quote Link to comment
+Couparangus Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 There's only one number that I want called if I can't speak for myself. That's 999 (or 911 in North America). If I lose the phone and the finder is actually honest enough to want to return it, I have an entry in my phone book called HOME. I also have one in my GPS the same in the off chance I lose it and the finder has a dose of morality. Quote Link to comment
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