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The Garmin Communicator was depreciated many years ago due to safety issues. But you still can download GPX files: On every cache page you have the option to download a GPX file. Download it and move it to the \Garmin\GPX\ folder on your Montana. As a Premium Member you can create lists. Lists can be saved as a GPX file but you can sent it directly to your Montana. For this feature Garmin Express must be installed. Pocket Queries are also an option. Create a PQ, download it and unzip it to the \Garmin\GPX\ folder on your Montana.

It's not about the Microsoft employees being geocachers, it's about geocachers refusing to give up their outdated equipment. I get that these old GPS receivers still connect to the satellites and will still provide you with a position, but their interface with the computer is a combination of outdated/unsupported (Garmin no longer uses its proprietary serial interface, magellan no longer makes handheld GPS devices.) and being insecure (the communicator plugins were built on a outdated platform). Since Garmin now uses a universal USB interface with mass storage mode, there is no need for them to invest in re-building a communicator plugin when you can just save files directly to the device as if it were a hard drive. As much as I hate to say this, maybe it's time to retire the magellan (definitely time to retire that eTrex Vista) and either switch to using a cell phone or a "modern" Garmin GPS (ie, something released in the last 12 years which has USB mass storage mode, GPX file support, and paperless caching). These devices don't even need special software or drivers to be installed.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that basic members now get to download GPX files from the cache pages, with the LOC files being phased out at around the time browsers stopped supporting the Garmin Communicator plug-in.

Garmin closed down OpenCaching a long time ago before they ever had direct wireless capable GPS devices. I don't remember if it did field notes, but it synced with the GPS via the now defunct communicator plugin seamlessly, such that you could log your finds directly (via wired connection) and load new caches in bulk simply from the map page. There were features of that site that were glorious that I wished at the time Groundspeak would have adopted (now obsolete, though analogs have been created), and there were features of that site that made it terrible (community peer-review of cache submissions, for example). In the end, Garmin didn't maintain it well, didn't promote it well, and it couldn't compete with the already established community here at geocaching.com. And that's fine given that most of the caches on Opencaching were cross-listed here anyway. Garmin has a history of both pawning off problems as somebody else's fault and ignoring bugs/feature requests except where they cause a major problem. Otherwise, if it takes too much effort to fix, they'll wait and introduce it in a later model. Case in point: There's no reason why older BT devices such as the Oregon 600, 700 and 64 series be opened up to connect with smartphone apps (Garmin Connect, Garmin Explore).

Garmin Communicator is not supported anymore, along with the old "Send To GPS" feature. There's no plugin, but there's also no Garmin support and a whole bunch of their help files are also gone for discontinued devices. Your available options may be 3rd party software such as EasyGPS (which is a lite version of ExpertGPS), or GPSBabel, and GSAK which is currently free. If you're only sending a cache or two, it may be faster to type coordinates manually (well, faster than working on software when it breaks).

I've had Garmin Express and Communicator installed and tried webupdate as well. I've resorted to using EasyGPS. I uninstalled Garmin Express to see if that would make a difference and it didn't. It's an extra step, and the Rino only shows the name of the cache in the notes. I've re-installed Garmin Express and when I run it, it says Garmin Express doesn't support this device, and to use webupdater. I tried all versions of webupdater, still no joy.

GSAK is now free to download and use - no paid version anymore. That is probably your best solution for using these old GPS units for geocaching until you decide to switch to using a phone or a newer GPS receiver. By all accounts, the gpsMAP60 series is only obsolete in that the hardware and software are no longer supported or maintained by Garmin. Otherwise, they still communicate with the GPS satellites and will still help you navigate from one point to another. Newer models have features that make their use easier. They also have bugs that make their use sometimes aggravating, but general consensus is that the benefits of the new features outweigh the aggravation of the bugs. Most of the time. It's been well discussed in these forums why the Communicator Plugin no longer works, and consequently, why Groundspeak chose to retire that old "Send to my GPS" feature that utilized it. And, of course, the replacement feature - "Send to Garmin" requires that your GPS mount to a computer in Mass Storage Mode, essentially as an external hard drive or thumb drive, which the gpsMAP60 series does not do. Ironically, the next model introduced, the Garmin Colorado series in 2008, and everything released since then does support mass storage mode. So although the Colorado series is also "obsolete," it is substantially less obsolete than the 60csx because the new features have been relatively unchanged since then: full USB support, mass storage mode, direct support to read and write data to GPX file format, paperless geocaching. Every progression of the units since 2008 simply add faster processors, improved antennas, more storage space and capacities on the number of tracks, waypoints, routes, and geocaches, and nicer screens. Those are the real reasons to upgrade your GPS if you still wish to continue using one. A newer model (doesn't have to be the newest) will interact nicely with geocaching, work with a standardized data format, and let you carry more mapping and display it much nicer. The rest of the new fangled features are simply icing on the cake. Though it will be interesting to see if the latest models have the same robustness and lifespan as the models in the gpsMAP60 series, many of which are still going strong other than losing some of that software support. Whatever you do, there is no real need to bring paper descriptions and directions to a geocache. That's one old method that needs to remain obsolete.

Basically it's just a matter of downloading GPX files and copy them to your Magellan file system. I don't know to what folder, I guess you can find that in your owner's manual. * For single caches you can download a GPX file from the cache page. * For lists you can create a pocket query. * For pocket queries you can download, unzip and copy the two resulting GPX files. I think you are referring to the Communicator plug-in, which is depreciated a couple of years ago. The plug-in was redeemed unsafe and is blocked by most browsers. At one time Groundspeak had to let go of the plug-in. Garmin was kind enough to offer a solution for their own models, but the other manufacturers never did.

I Had a heck of a time re-learning how to get my GPS to communicate and accept caches after a long time away as well. I spent a full 24 hours learning how to update my firmware (never done it before on my 60 csx). Had to take a 6 hour nap to get the frustrations out. I was following all the directions but kept getting error messages. Error messages of all various kinds. I finally worked through each one but it was a struggle. Garmin Communicator plug in is still available for download. That was the final thing I had to do as I had simply forgot about this plug in. A newbie would have even a harder time finding out about this plug in. I watched several youtube video's and even came here to the forums looking for directions but it was very hard to find my solutions to the error messages. I was almost convinced that the 60csx was and outdated piece of equipment and that I would have to upgrade but NO!!!! Everything works as it should be. Just like before. The only thing missing is the link on the cache page where you can send the coords directly to the GPS. So disappointing but I can live with that as long as my GPS is acting all brand new again after the firmware update.

I guess the TS means the Garmin Communicator. This plug-in is unsafe, outdated and abolished. For the 60cxs you'll need MapSource, BaseCamp, EasyGPS or GSAK to place GPX files onto your device.

Ok. Now we have the culprit. The "Send to GPS" function used the now defunct Garmin Communicator Plugin. You could always put GPX files directly on your GPS, which is what you will have to do from now on (you can use the "Send to Garmin" feature with Garmin Express, but it can sometimes not work well.) Pocket queries come packaged as a Zip file, and must be unzipped first. In Windows, I think you just right-click and extract. The GPX files then go into the GPX folder on your 62s. Keep in mind that if you're loading caches in Europe, and you are not in Europe, the GPS won't list them because they are too far away, though they will show up if you scroll the map to the location of the cache. For now, practice loading local geocaches to make sure you have the process working.

The short answer is no, you don't *need* to be a premium member, but being a premium member has its benefits for loading caches. The problem, though, isn't premium or basic membership, but that you are using a legacy GPS device, and the website gives you data in GPX files. The 60CSx's support for GPX files is rudimentary at best. It doesn't really support them natively, and it doesn't support them for geocaches. In the past, the communicator plugin would convert geocaches to generic waypoints and load them in Garmin's old proprietary file format for you. Another option was converting the GPX files to POIs. If you happen to have Mapsource installed, you can import geocaching GPX files and transfer the waypoints to the device. I believe GSAK also has some export settings to send geocaches to a pre-paperless device such as your 60csx. If you're a Mac user, fugettaboutit? There are still plenty of people here clutching to their ancient technology and making it work. However, an upgrade to a device that supports paperless caching, mass storage, and GPX files natively is the best option going forward. You'll get full hardware and software compatibility well into the foreseeable future, basically until the USB port becomes obsolete. I don't see the abandonment of the GPX file format coming anytime soon.

Hier werkt de knop "lists" wel (alles staat in het Engels). Ik krijg dan mijn lijsten te zien met rechts een "knop" met drie puntjes. Als ik daar op klik krijg ik de optie die o.a. "send to Garmin" heeft. Daar op klikken vraagt of ik Garmin Express wil starten (Garmin Communicator is al zeer lang "dood" en die knoppen verdwenen al in augustus verleden jaar). Dus zoals het bij jou steeds werkte. Blijft de vraag welke browser je gebruikt, of/welke plugins je gebruikt en of je de laatste week updates deed. In Firefox 65.0.2 met o.a. GClittle helper script BTW: Als GSAK gebruiker download ik nooit via de website dus eventuele aanpassing op de website zie ik haast nooit, alles gaat via de API en GSAK.

IK bedoel de knop 'Jouw lijsten' die op de Dahboard pagina staat van mijn persoonlijke pagina van geocaching.com. De Garmin doet er niet toe, want ik kan niet eens mijn lijsten inzien via die knop. Wel via de app op mijn telefoon, maar daarvandaan kan ik geen lijst op de GPS plaatsen. Hoe deed ik het vroeger? Heel simpel, als ik een bepaalde cache wil bewaren, bijvoorbeeld op een privé- of openbare lijst, dan geef ik op de betreffende cachepagina aan dat ik hem in een lijst wil opslaan. Ik selecteer dan de betreffende lijst en klaar is Kees. Als ik dan later de cache wil inzien ga ik naar het dashboard en bekijk en/of bewerk ik de lijst. Wil ik een lijst op mijn GPS zetten, dan klik ik op het rondje met de drie puntjes achter de betreffende lijst en selecteer 'naar GPS zenden'. Dan opent Garmin communicator en zie ik of het wel of niet lukt. In 999 van de 1000 keer levert dat geen enkel probleem op.

You're not incorrect. But this is technology. It changes. Quickly. Standards change, and if you are unwilling to keep with the standards - if you insist on using older and often outdated technology to serve your needs, any problems you run into are your personal problems, not a problem with the general system. Hardware and software makers can only support older models of their product for so long before it becomes unsustainable to do so. You can't blame Microsoft if features of Windows XP stop working when they are now 4 OS generations beyond and a decade past support. If you choose to continue using XP instead of 7, 8 , or 10, you do so at your own responsibility. In this case, GPSrs that support GPX files and direct loading with mass storage have been around for over a decade. The Communicator plugin was somewhat necessary to move data between websites and the GPS in earlier models that relied on using Garmin's proprietary serial interface to talk to the computer. But these new fangled fancy GPS models communicate over a standard USB interface, one that allows for mass storage. Transferring data is no different than uploading/downloading files from your hard drive. So when it became known that the platform that the communicator plugin was built upon provided vulnerabilities to end users, browser makers began removing support for those classes of plugins. Garmin decided it wasn't worth their effort to create a new, more secure communicator plugin because you can just download data directly to folders on modern GPSrs. Groundspeak took their time, but finally recognized that keeping the "send to GPS" function that relied on these defunct plugins was causing more confusion than functionality (or worse yet, encouraging people to keep their systems vulnerable to attack by using outdated browsers just to keep the feature working). So, "Send to my GPS" is dead. Getting geocaches to those old GPS models is now a convoluted process. You either accept that, or use modern solutions that made geocaching easier in general. Paperless caching. Direct GPX file interaction. Mass storage. Phones that do everything a GPS does including store data for offline use. You don't have to be a power cacher to take advantage of these features. You don't have to find 20+ caches a day to justify using them. Of course you are welcome to cache however you want and with whatever equipment you want. You can make the process as simple or complex as you desire. But if you choose to use legacy hardware and methods, it is not the fault of Geocaching.com or Garmin that some legacy functions get retired, causing you to change up your workflow. We at the forums are always happy to help. But when we come up with solutions that don't even require you to buy new hardware, and you reply with "well we just don't do it that way," forgive us for losing sympathy that you are experiencing troubles that are simply caused by your stubbornness.

Did you use the „Send to GPS“ Button and the Garmin communicator? This way doesn’t work anymore, communicator won’t run on actual browsers.

Is there any way to download a GPX file, a list, or a pocket query to a Garmin GPS Map 60CSX? Garmin says the GPS Map 60csx is not compatible with Garmin Express. Without Garmin Express or Garmin Communicator, my computer does not recognize the GPS.

Things change. There's a new feature being developed that looks like it may be one button again at some time, at least for newish Garmins. Remember, support by manufacturers for discontinued devices vanishes entirely when the new models come out. This is the way of the universe. And the structure for the "old button" went away as new security prococols came online. See the thread that Touchstone mentioned. It's a many-layered topic. If you enjoy a lot of reading about this, there are thousands of threads right here to discuss the technical issues of "Garmin Communicator".

The Button was the result of a collaboration between Garmin and Groundspeak. There had been no updates to Garmin Communicator for a long time. “Send To GPS” began breaking years ago, and people had to adapt. No notice, for the most part. Whatever they did, do that. I can follow plans pretty well, yet eventually I could not keep “Send To GPS” working. Long before it was “removed”. I did it as a personal challenge. There is a shiny new button, “Send To Garmin”, this is the alternative, and it's more useful than the old button was. It supports Garmins that can accept GPX files directly, newer models only. Garmin doesn't provide updates for old devices, and that's simply the way of the world. Operating systems have updated security. Web browsers are dropping “Plugins” as they once were, and combinations of security measures made “Garmin Communicator” stop working. People who are not updating their PCs see many broken things on those PCs, not just “Send To GPS”, and five thousand icons on their desktop, and half of those are copies of icons. Go look! Worse, those PCs are connected, yet by definition unsecure, operated by users who are not adept with computer settings. The perfect storm. Geocaching.com removes or changes things all the time, and I dread the day when they remove the “opt out” features that I use. But it was high time for “Send To GPS” to go away.

As you can read in the topic I linked to, it was removed: The reason it became unreliable is that modern browsers block the Garmin Communicator permanently because of safety issues. The fact that this function did work for you tells me you are using an outdated browser and you should update it immediately. Meanwhile, you can use the GPX file button and save it directly to the \Garmin\GPX\ folder on your GPSr (or save it elsewhere and copy it later to that folder).

Zoals eerder gezegd, de onveilige Garmin Communicator werkt niet meer met moderne browsers. Het feit dat het bij jou nog werkte betekent dus dat je geen moderne (en dus geen veilige) browser gebruikt. Iets waar je wat aan zou moeten doen. Er wordt al jaren gevraagd om de knop permanent te verwijderen en dat is nu eindelijk gebeurd. Een gpx-bestand rechtstreeks opslaan is geen omweg. Klik op GPX file, navigeer in het "Opslaan als..." menu naar je eTrex, de map Garmin en dan naar de map GPX en klik op Opslaan. De eerste keer zal misschien een of twee muisklikken extra kosten, maar de volgende keren binnen dezelfde sessie juist een muisklik minder, mits je browser je eerste keuze onthoudt.

I was finally able to load a list onto my GPS. This just may work better. If I delete a list on the site with my GPS hooked up, does that remove those caches from my GPS? It would be nice to remove those caches all at once. Or should I continue to do that through Basecamp? Now should I go in and delete the Garmin Communicator Plugin? Or is it needed for other applications? If it is no longer needed why keep it? Thanks again for everyone's help.

Npbody I know wanted less convenience. Sometimes I really wonder what the plan is. But "Send To GPS" was no longer supported, and many people arrived in the Forums as Send To GPS failed for them over the past few years. Constantly. It used "Garmin Communicator" which ceased being updated four years ago (an eternity in Internet time), and that plugin relied on an insecure protocol. Your home computer could get hacked, or more likely, get weird browser plugins that you don't want. Update your PC security, and that button stops working. Garmin does not design cool new software for 10-year-old GPSs, it abandons them (this isn't exclusively a Garmin thing, it's everywhere, go look at "smart phones"!). "Send To GPS" worked with even the oldest GPSs, even other brands. Fortunately, there is software to load old GPSs, which many people started to use as Send To GPS failed. I wouldn't automatically abandon my old GPS just because Garmin did. But choose your battles. I think in your case, you can load your GPS directly in many ways. But others may try a few software ideas and see what works, or simply type coordinates for a cache or two, or find a newer GPS, used, if it's a good deal.

Moin, da ich den Weg über "Send to GPS" nie gegangen bin, vermiss ich ihn auch nicht - zumal mein Gerät als Laufwerk erkannt wird. Dennoch hab ich nun eine Verständnisfrage und diese dann auch noch rein aus Interesse, also ohne wirklichen Nutzen für mich Brauchte ich für das "Send to GPS" nicht dieses Garmin Communicator Plug-In oder ist das wieder eine ganz andere Geschichte? Wenn hier dieses Plug-In benötigt wurde, dann hab ich nämlich durchaus regelmäßig von Problemen gelesen, da das Plug-In bei diversen Leuten nach einem Update des Browsers plötzlich nicht mehr funktioniert hat. Für diejenigen, wo es bis zuletzt reibungslos funktioniert hat, ist der Wegfall natürlich ärgerlich, aber wenn es wirklich zu Problemen und Anfragen kam und das Problem auch nicht von Groundspeak gelöst werden kann, kann ich nachvollziehen, dass man den Button rausnimmt. Glück auf smoerf

Sounds like you are trying to use the "Send to GPS" button? If so, then please know that it just doesn't work anymore. There are many, many forum topics about this. You can search for "garmin communicator" in the forum and find the many threads. Garmin Express is what you'd use for "Send to Garmin", which allows you to send a Bookmark List of caches to your Garmin GPSr. Your other options are (1) individual cache downloads, using the "GPX File" button on a cache page or (2) multiple cache downloads, using Pocket Queries.