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quote: I'd be VERY cautious going on the freeway with something that light. I get blown around by the wind coming off of trucks, SUVs and even cars that aren't very aerodynamic, and my bike's an 800cc V-twin that weighs almost 500lbs dry. BE CAREFUL and keep the rubber side down! I agree with Cruzin!. Its a bit unnerving at times, even on a heavier bike. But cost aside, (about $5500) the BMW C1 looks as though it would fit the bill. Wouldn't help you to be stealthy though! I'd like to try one but don't think I'd ever buy one myself. Same with the Segway. George

New to geocaching -- just got a new Magellan Meridian Color from my wife for our anniversary. Before I start looking for some caches, I'd like to have an idea of the kinds of stuff people take along to put in the cache. Rolex watches? Keys to a new BMW? A new iPod? I guess I'll get an idea as I progress through some finds, but I don't want to go off on my first expedition under- or over-prepared...

SOMETHING TO OFFEND EVERYONE PART I What do you call two Mexicans playing basketball?.... Juan on Juan. >>>> What is a Yankee?..... The same as a quickie, but a guy can do it alone. What is the difference between a Harley and a Hoover?..... The position of the dirt bag. Why is divorce so expensive?..... Because it's worth it. What's the fluid capacity of Monica Lewinsky's mouth?....... One US leader. What do you see when the Pillsbury Dough Boy bends over?..... Doughnuts. Why is air a lot like sex?...... Because it's no big deal unless you're not getting any. SOMETHING TO OFFEND EVERYONE PART II (JUST WARMING UP!) What do you call a smart blonde?..... A golden retriever. What do attorneys use for birth control?....... Their personalities. What's the difference between a boyfriend and husband?...... 45 minutes. How many women does it take to change a light bulb?...... None, they just sit there in the dark and *****. What's the fastest way to a man's heart?...... Through his chest with a sharp knife. Why do men want to marry virgins?....... They can't stand criticism. Why is it so hard for women to find men that are sensitive, caring, and good-looking?.... Because those men already have boyfriends. What's the difference between a new husband and a new dog?...... After a year, the dog is still excited to see you. What makes men chase women they have no intention of marrying?...... The same urge that makes dogs chase cars they have no intention of driving. A brunette, a blonde, and a redhead are all in third grade. Who has the biggest boobs?..... The blonde, because she's 18. Why don't bunnies make noise when they have sex?..... Because they have cotton balls. What's the difference between a porcupine and BMW?..... A porcupine has the pricks on the outside. What did the blonde say when she found out she was pregnant?..... "Are you sure it's mine?" What's the difference between Beer Nuts and Deer Nuts?..... Beer Nuts are $1, and Deer Nuts are always under a buck. Why does Mike Tyson cry during sex?..... Mace will do that to you. Why did OJ Simpson want to move to West Virginia?..... Everyone has the same DNA. Why do men find it difficult to make eye contact?...... Breasts don't have eyes. Did you hear about the dyslexic Rabbi?..... He walks around saying "Yo." Why do drivers' education classes in Redneck schools use the car only on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays?........ Because on Tuesday and Thursday, the Sex Ed class uses it. SOMETHING TO OFFEND EVERYONE, PART III What's the Cuban National Anthem?....... "Row, Row, Row Your Boat" Where does an Irish family go on vacation?..... A different bar. Did you hear about the Chinese couple that had a retarded baby?.... They named him "Sum Ting Wong" What would you call it when an Italian has one arm shorter than the other?..... A speech impediment. What does it mean when the flag at the Post Office is flying at half-mast?.... They're hiring. What's the difference between a southern zoo and a northern zoo?..... A southern zoo has a description of the animal on the front of the Cage along with... "a recipe". How do you get a sweet little 80-year-old lady to say the F word?... Get another sweet little 80-year-old lady to yell *BINGO*! What's the difference between a northern fairytale and a southern fairytale? A northern fairytale begins "Once upon a time..." A southern fairytale begins "Y'all ain't gonna believe this ****..." Why is there no Disneyland in China?.... No one's tall enough to go on the good rides. Kar

Congratulations. That is so cool. Since I already have a Rino, And may be called a Rino Enthusiast, Maybe I could win a pair of BMW Motorcycles. Wouldn't that be nice. But Now I have a feeling you will become Geocaching Enthusiasts. Come back and let us know how you first geocache find goes. Night Hunter I, Madam, I made radio!! So I dared!! Am I mad?? AM I????

quote:Originally posted by BrianSnat:I'm on Jomarac5's side with this one (even though that thought might cause him to re think his position). Nobody's expecting to find gold coins, keys to a new BMW, or a brand new GPS V in a cache. But putting a little thought into the items you place in a cache isn't asking a whole lot. The item doesn't have to be expensive, but it should be thoughtful. You can buy a brand new Matchbox car for 99 cents, so why leave one that you found in your kid's toy chest with missing wheels? Instead of leaving a dirty toy soldier, partially chewed by your dog, you can leave a new bag of 50 of them that will cost you $1.49. Why leave a rusty pocket knife with a broken blade, when you can find a brand new Wenger for $4. A little imagination goes a long way. Use it and if you put 1/100 the effort into finding decent items to leave for your fellow cachers than you do racking up numbers, the sport will be better off for it. _"It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues"_ -Abraham Lincoln I think you just summed it all up quite well. Why is that so difficult for others to understand? -------------------------------- Magellan Meridian GPS / 128MB Handspring Visor Deluxe L.O.S.T. - http://www.kjjeep.com http://www.darkglobe.com/geocache

I'm on Jomarac5's side with this one (even though that thought might cause him to re think his position). Nobody's expecting to find gold coins, keys to a new BMW, or a brand new GPS V in a cache. But putting a little thought into the items you place in a cache isn't asking a whole lot. The item doesn't have to be expensive, but it should be thoughtful. You can buy a brand new Matchbox car for 99 cents, so why leave one that you found in your kid's toy chest with missing wheels? Instead of leaving a dirty toy soldier, partially chewed by your dog, you can leave a new bag of 50 of them that will cost you $1.49. Why leave a rusty pocket knife with a broken blade, when you can find a brand new Wenger for $4. A little imagination goes a long way. Use it and if you put 1/100 the effort into finding decent items to leave for your fellow cachers than you do racking up numbers, the sport will be better off for it. "It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues" -Abraham Lincoln

I have the coolest signature trading item you all have ever seen! It is worth more than any stupid BMW! It is my...... RADMAN PHOTO FRAME! The most unorigional and idiotic trading item ever thought up! Coming soon to a cache near you! "If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure." - Dan Quayle

quote:Originally posted by leatherman:_P38 ?_ Walther P38? P38 modem? My first thought was of a small model of an old fighter plane. My second thought was that it was weird that two people had the same model plane on their keychain. My third thought was that the plane was actually a P51 and that I was an idiot. Oh yeah, and it's car key (VW), housekey, other housekey, blindingly bright LED-light thingie (blue), and my GTI keyfob. When the VW's broken (like now) , there's also the BMW key added. CK -- Geocaching: The World's Finest Outdoor Geeking "Oh, look at me. I'm off with my way cool friends to sniff floor wax." - Brian, 'My So-Called Life'

Only one VW? Well, at the moment, I'm on VW #5 of 6 cars owned. #1: '69 Bug Convert - The roof fell off, so it was replaced by.. #2: '82 Rabbit - Powder Blue and a G-grind together, whoda thunk it? But then I parked it on the back bumper of a Ford F250, so.. #3: '84 Rabbit - Finally a 5th gear! But it started eating every electrical component in sight after a break-in tore up the dash, so.. I bought a used '90 BMW 325i. But.. I also bought #4: An '80 Scirocco S - w/ a '86 GTi engine, a few months later as a second car. It eventually got sold when I moved cross-country for a year, and I've recently bought.. #5: '86 GTi - which cost less ($200) than my GPS unit (Rino 120, $249)! Between the new radio and the Garmin, there's regulary about 3X the cost of the car in electrical gadgets traveling around inside it! The irony.. I can understand a strong correlation between Cachers and Dubbers though, some kind of mindset thing. Especially the multi-owners.. Don't ask me to quantify why, but it's there. CK -- "Oh, look at me, I'm way cool. I'm off with my way cool friends to sniff floor wax." -Brian, 'My So-Called Life' [This message was edited by CurlyKrakow on April 25, 2003 at 08:01 AM.]

quote:Originally posted by BrianSnat:Realistically, if everyone had to "trade up", eventually, the cache would have a brand new BMW in it. I voted for "trade up always" because I want to find a 325i in my next cache. Not top of the line. But 4WD please. Thanks. [wink]

Realistically, if everyone had to "trade up", eventually, the cache would have a brand new BMW in it. As long as most people trade evenly, that's plenty. And an even trade is not taking one nice item and leaving 8 peices of junk. "It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues" -Abraham Lincoln

Typically most of your high end cars are going to have this feature. Audi A8,A6 BMW 5,7...Ect It is also a problem with ezpass and other drive thur toll units. You can go to ezpass.com and they list cars that need the sensor on the bumper...

I have been riding Dirtbikes for years, and I have ridden the first two bikes that you mentioned, and a larger version of the last bike you mentioned (A BMW Dakar GS R100 1000CC) and which one you want is very dependent upon where you live. In my neck of the woods, Central Florida, I wouldn't have any of them, because they are terrible in the sand and mud. Those bikes are great if you are staying on hard packed dirt, or asphalt most of the time, and you like to haul ***, and have tons of power. Which, is good for some people, but I prefer a smaller bike. If I had the money, and I were buying a new bike on today's market, I would probably buy a Suzuki DR-Z400E (little brother to number 2 on your list). This is a great all around bike because it has the wider torque bands because of the larger engine, but it is a good bit lighter, and much easier to handle in rough terrain, sand, and mud. You can take it into tricky places and not have to worry about getting it up if you drop it. Right now I ride 1988 Yamaha XT 350, and I thoroughly enjoy it, it has most of the power I need (it will cruise 95 on a good hard surface). Mechanically it is pretty bulletproof, I can work on it myself; and if I crash it, I only have a thousand bucks in it, and it wouldn't be the end of the world. Antoher thing I would consider if I were in your situation, is your limited experience riding. Knowing what I know, it is much easier to get some good experience in on a smaller bike that you can handle, and beat up a little bit, than it is if you have a larger bike that is a beast, or a 5000 or 6000 dollar bike that you are afraid to take out of the garage. But I think you are approaching it the right way. Whenever I meet someone getting into dirtbikes, I recommend they ride a good 6 months to a year off road, and get the feel for the bike before they hit the streets on a street bike. As far as caching by dirtbike goes, I love it. It is a great excuse to get out and ride, and I can go a lot of places that I couldn't get to in my 2 wheel drive pick up.

I'm keen on getting a dual purpose bike, could be used for caching (to hide and seek) if the area allows it of course (no flames thanks). The ones I'm looking at are the: - Kawasaki KLR650 - Suzuki 650 (not sure exact model) - BMW Dakar 650 (not sure exact model) I'd appreciate comments on these bikes if anyone has one. My concern though with these bikes is that they are all fairly big and having only driven/ridden a bike a few times I'm not sure. Getting a bike is also all in my head at this stage so it'd be interesting to hear other comments. Robert

I completely agree that if everybody traded up to increase the value of the cache items that things would be better. I'm not expecting to find brand new DVDs or keys to a nearby BMW. Just something remotely useful. I just thought if I said something about this it might help the sitsuation. I traded a brand new in the package emergency blanket for a key chain that said, "Be all you can be" on it and on the other side it had a picture of a hummer.

quote:Also, if the car is German engineered, you will likely find the speedo is 5 km/h off (give or take) This is alledgedly due to stiff manufacturer's fines (in Germany) if the speedos read low. My friend's BMW reads 5 MPH under the GPS speed, while my Chevy just about matches the GPS. "Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand."

quote:Originally posted by dwmurphy:Must rent BMW or Mercedes to find this cache? Or Warning: This is An Urban Cache! Do NOT wear your OD green cache pack, black web gear, or Jump Boots.

Must rent BMW or Mercedes to find this cache? I'm not Lost, my GPS says I'm right here....no here......no here.

My first reaction to Fred's story is YIKES!!!!!! but then I had two further reactions. First, Caching Toddler, Hidden Tupperware is in a neighborhood that would be best described as abso-freakin-lutely astonomically wealthy. The place is full of turn-of-the-century mansions. Cheap places can be had for about $750K. There are several $1,500K+++ homes within a 1/2 mile of the cache. Any car less than a BMW looks out of place. Besides, the cops are bored. They spend all day chasing embezellers and crooked stock brokers. Busting a regular hoodlum is a nice break. Second, I've met Fred at one of the local events. I would have arrested him as well. He looks like a criminal from a mile away. Now where did I park my car???????

OK, we've tried Geocaching whilst carrying a 22kg child and it ain't pretty. So what we need is a serious, bona-fide, ALL terrain pushchair. It needs to scale tall mountains and ford deep rivers, climb sheer rock and........OK, I'm getting carried away here but you get the idea. Recommendations welcome for a large-wheeled, robust, proper off-road buggy (please don't tell me about the namby-pamby BMW X5 soft roader equivalents)

I have hung up my GPS for my true passion of bowhunting for a while, but I am still lurking a little here. Be safe, If you are going into the woods between now and January 11, please wear orange. You are not going to be shot either way, you have a better chance of your refrigerator falling over on you when you go for a glass of water. Wearing orange makes it clear you are a person in the woods and a hunter can take appropriate measures to secure their firearm LONG before you know they are there, instead of putting you in their crosshairs to see what the commotion is about. Archery and small game is now open. "Gun" season (it is actually open weapons season, but the majority use guns) starts 2-Dec and primitive weapons season starts the day after christmas and runs until January 11. Many small game seasons run concurrent with these times. Not just game lands. Hunters hunt EVERYWHERE, it keeps the fenders on those BMW's from wrinkling PLEASE, if you own a dog and choose to take it into Penns woods during these times, PLEASE mark it with blaze orange as well. I use an orange bandana on my dog Boomer. While YOU are easily distinguishable as a "non-game" animal, your dog can look really similar to a coyote which is a deer killer and will get shot 8 out of 10 times it is spotted. If it has orange on, there should not be a problem at all. We all need to share the woods together and discussions like these are fantastic. Thanks. Go Eagles.

quote:Originally posted by The Quantum Mechanic: quote:I personally think that all of those bmw-driving, mansion-owning, freeway-loving, mall-shopping, four-car-garage-owning, magellan-using, nature-park-loving, tree-hugging, PBR-disliking, cow-tipping, frequent-flying, veal-eating, intel-working, hair-dying, child-having, corgi-owning, button-pushing, hawaii-vacationing, digital-cable-subscribing, pseudo-CALIFORNIANS that describe themselves as living west of the Willamette don't have a chance against us non-hyphen-using eastsiders. don't make me offer examples as to why. all rights reserved, all wrongs reversed Now I'm being insulted! I would never own a corgi. Isn't a corgi one of those little cast-iron toy cars from the UK? Corgi If that's what you mean, then I do own some Star Trek corgis That would bring my total from the list to 4. And we all know that most of the caches are on the west side to give the east-siders an excuse to get away for a few hours. And how many caches can you hide in chestnut trees along those house filled streets anyway?

quote:I personally think that all of those bmw-driving, mansion-owning, freeway-loving, mall-shopping, four-car-garage-owning, magellan-using, nature-park-loving, tree-hugging, PBR-disliking, cow-tipping, frequent-flying, veal-eating, intel-working, hair-dying, child-having, corgi-owning, button-pushing, hawaii-vacationing, digital-cable-subscribing, pseudo-CALIFORNIANS that describe themselves as living west of the Willamette don't have a chance against us non-hyphen-using eastsiders. don't make me offer examples as to why. all rights reserved, all wrongs reversed Now I'm being insulted! I would never own a corgi. Peace through superior firepower

quote:Originally posted by oregone:As i've said before, i think we should see how the Puget Sound game goes before we rush to any decisions. Amen! quote:Originally posted by oregone:But we all know how this is going to end up: eastsiders vs. westsiders. It's how it has always been, and it's how it always shall be. Double amen! quote:Originally posted by oregone:I personally think that all of those bmw-driving, mansion-owning, freeway-loving, mall-shopping... Amen again, brother Oregone!

As i've said before, i think we should see how the Puget Sound game goes before we rush to any decisions. But we all know how this is going to end up: eastsiders vs. westsiders. It's how it has always been, and it's how it always shall be. I personally think that all of those bmw-driving, mansion-owning, freeway-loving, mall-shopping, four-car-garage-owning, magellan-using, nature-park-loving, tree-hugging, PBR-disliking, cow-tipping, frequent-flying, veal-eating, intel-working, hair-dying, child-having, corgi-owning, button-pushing, hawaii-vacationing, digital-cable-subscribing, pseudo-CALIFORNIANS that describe themselves as living west of the Willamette don't have a chance against us non-hyphen-using eastsiders. don't make me offer examples as to why. all rights reserved, all wrongs reversed