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Hit the arboratum caches this weekend and really had a good time. The kids and I only picked up 3 ticks between us. Your guys don;t have ticks up here! I'm planning on send the arboratum folks a letter thanking them for allow the geocaches to be placed in their park. I wonder if a number of us shouldn't do the same. That would give them some great positive feedback and perhaps they'd talk caches up to other Parks folks. Met with Liz Austin from the Star on Saturday--she's looking you you Todd and Tracey next!

Very easy to read and program, This Magellan GPS 2000 XL is in great shape. Includes owner's manual and Lawrence Letham's fine book "PS Made Easy". Thought I should give fellow Geocachers first crack at it before EBAY. I'm in San Diego if you want to pick it up in person or I'll ship COD. Make me an offer I can't refuse. Since this is a "garage sale"-- I also have two large aquariums, glass with stands,approx. 100 gallons, filters, pumps etc. I don't think I want to ship these, but I have a truck so, talk to me. Jerry 760-471-9339 jerry@elfinforest.net

Bunkerdave I think we could be figthing an uphill battle here.Personnaly,I'd remove all coordinates from the geocaching webpage to all caches!There !! NO MORE PLUNDER .That would be the most efficiant way to protect,secure or stop the plunder of cache !! Agree ?? Know,what good would that do to the game itself ? As we speak,at this very moment,a plunderer is whatching me discusting this issue with you.Now,if we come up with a very good solution to minimize this plundering activity,who's going to know at the same time?You guess it,your friendly plunderer ! Now,an another way to stop him from finding out what we are talking about,is not to talk about it at all.This way here,we cannot educate him on the activaties or solutions we come up.We have to be creative,in our own way,on how to protect our caches,be one step ahead of him and learn to think like him.His intentions,motivations and actions after the fact of plundering.What is he going to do after he did it ? Strike twice or turn tail ? Stike twice or turn tail ?? MadGPS

Bunkerdave I think we could be figthing an uphill battle here.Personnaly,I'd remove all coordinates from the geocaching webpage to all caches!There !! NO MORE PLUNDER .That would be the most efficiant way to protect,secure or stop the plunder of cache !! Agree ?? Know,what good would that do to the game itself ? As we speak,at this very moment,a plunderer is whatching me discusting this issue with you.Now,if we come up with a very good solution to minimize this plundering activity,who's going to know at the same time?You guess it,your friendly plunderer ! Now,an another way to stop him from finding out what we are talking about,is not to talk about it at all.This way here,we cannot educate him on the activaties or solutions we come up.We have to be creative,in our own way,on how to protect our caches,be one step ahead of him and learn to think like him.His intentions,motivations and actions after the fact of plundering.What is he going to do after he did it ? Strike twice or turn tail ? Stike twice or turn tail ?? MadGPS

Rubberstamps? Talk to the letterboxers at their website: letterboxing.org. They skip all the prizes and just use logbooks and rubberstamps. The really good boxers make their own stamps from vinyl erasers, like a Staedtler-MARS, the kind used by artists & architects. To make your own rubberstamp, draw or xerox a suitable design, preferably an image that's somehow related to the geocache location. Then put the paper on the eraser, and rub it with nail polish remover to transfer the image to the eraser. Finally, use an Exacto knife or Speedball linoleum carving tools to remove all the rubber that isn't part of the image. Anton ------------------ Anton Ninno - N2RUD Syracuse, NY 13210

I think it would be cool to meet people that share the same interest as me and talk a little about geocaching.I think we should be cool to each other.Not snobby.definately say hi at least, If you walk right up on somebody else.If I thought I could stay out of their site and not mess up the moment I would wait until the other folks left and then move in.

Have the need to talk to fellow Geocacher's? try this chat room.. http://chat.hotx.com/chat/diggers#start a couple of how-to's type in your Nickname, and hit "update" then enter your text, and hit "send" continue to hit "Update" to get screen refreshes. I know it says treasure hunting, But Its kind of appropriate. Feel free to use it, please dont abuse it. OZ ------------------ Carmen Sandiego is at S 45 45.001 E 150 55.976

hi, i'm a freelance writer doing a story on geocaching in the danbury area for the news-times. i'd like to talk to someone in the vicinity. anybody out there? steve stephenkrcmar@yahoo.com

quote:Originally posted by Quinnow:What you should see is my point of view as to what "I" feel is right and wrong. Telling others that you feel their point of view is "wrong", which is what I infer from your comments on this issue, tends to get people's defenses up. Better if you had just said your personal preference is that people not publish spoilers, but you understand and respect their valid reasons for doing so. I'm afraid we're in an impossible situation. Some people want the logs to serve like movie reviews, to decide if they should hunt this cache or not. Others want the logs to serve like a bar where people gather after the movie to discuss what they all just saw. The logs can't serve both functions. And as I don't believe a bunch of amateur geocachers will ever have the skills of professional movie reviewers, I hold out no hope of keeping spoilers out of the logs, no matter how much we lobby, beg, and scold. Besides, even if we could get everyone to censor what they write, we'd still lose the second function. Where CAN the successful hunters gather and talk about every gory detail without fear of spoiling it for others? The best solution I see is that we encourage people to say what they want in the logs, and encourage hunters to exercise self restraint and not read the logs until after their hunt is over.

quote:Originally posted by Quinnow:What you should see is my point of view as to what "I" feel is right and wrong. Telling others that you feel their point of view is "wrong", which is what I infer from your comments on this issue, tends to get people's defenses up. Better if you had just said your personal preference is that people not publish spoilers, but you understand and respect their valid reasons for doing so. I'm afraid we're in an impossible situation. Some people want the logs to serve like movie reviews, to decide if they should hunt this cache or not. Others want the logs to serve like a bar where people gather after the movie to discuss what they all just saw. The logs can't serve both functions. And as I don't believe a bunch of amateur geocachers will ever have the skills of professional movie reviewers, I hold out no hope of keeping spoilers out of the logs, no matter how much we lobby, beg, and scold. Besides, even if we could get everyone to censor what they write, we'd still lose the second function. Where CAN the successful hunters gather and talk about every gory detail without fear of spoiling it for others? The best solution I see is that we encourage people to say what they want in the logs, and encourage hunters to exercise self restraint and not read the logs until after their hunt is over.

Bickering is a good thing. I personally enjoy it if concerns something I am passionate about. I have become good friends with people simply because we both loved to argue and test each others verbal and intellectual skills. We may never agree on anything, but at least we can talk about it. Sometimes it gets petty, but that is when you can claim the upper hand! LOL

Bickering is a good thing. I personally enjoy it if concerns something I am passionate about. I have become good friends with people simply because we both loved to argue and test each others verbal and intellectual skills. We may never agree on anything, but at least we can talk about it. Sometimes it gets petty, but that is when you can claim the upper hand! LOL

Looks like I'll be chatting with Liz Austin from the Star about local geocaching. Anybody have anything they want brought up? Or, contact her by email (her address is in her posting). She's eager to talk with anyone. Just got back from St. Louis where I did a bit of geocaching (along with visiting family). If anyone wants a really great day trip, go to Columbia, Missouri. There are four caches there (I only had time to find two), and the best by far is the Katy Trail 174. What an adventure! Paul Lamble

Greetings, Send an announcement about local activity to the "pennysaver" newspaper in your town, the publication with all the classifieds for people selling cars and holding garage sales, etc. Talk to the managers at stores that sell GPS receivers. Suggest that their support and promotion of geocaching as a sport will help GPS sales. Perhaps the store could put up a bulletin board with GC information, or sponsor a contest, or offer coupons to people who the store's cache. Hold a meeting of local geocachers at a sporting goods store or coffee shop. Put an announcement for it in the newspaper a month in advance, and send it to newpapers and radio stations. I hear the Boy Scouts are getting into GC, so you might contact their local office. Offer to put on demos at BS meetings. Same goes for any local outdoor clubs: climbing, hiking, canoeing, xc-skiing, orienteering, hunting, fishing, Audubon, Sierra, birding, etc., etc. Anton ------------------ Anton Ninno - N2RUD Syracuse, NY 13210 [This message has been edited by Anton (edited 01 May 2001).]

r finding the few available to them. Demand exceeds supply. It's happened in my area because there are only 11 caches total, and they were all planted in the last three weeks (talk about growing!). As more caches appear, the activity will spread out, especially for the new people coming along. Of course, those of us who started earlier will all convene on the next new cache. Oh well, c'est la cache. As usual, the "early adopters" pay a premium for being pioneers. Remember to be polite. Don't trip the first guy to pass you on the trail holding a GPS. After all, he might NOT be a cacher. You don't want to harm civilians - bad PR. Just ask the Navy. Anton ------------------ Anton Ninno - N2RUD Syracuse, NY 13210 [This message has been edited by Anton (edited 01 May 2001).]

Paul, I'll let you talk to the fine lady from the K.C. Star!!! Liz, Thank you for your interest! Ryan, To answer your question about letterboxing: (just now read your message). Hard to explain but here goes...In the 1800's a man left his business card in a bottle in England..years later someone else found it...This turned into a phenomenon where people will hand-make these intricate rubber stamps and hide them--only giving compass directions/vague coordinates (100 paces North from a tree...) and once found you use your personally hand-made rubber stamp to stamp their log and you use theirs (in the cache) to stamp your log...There are actually a few in K.C. Sometimes letterboxing sites and geocaching are combined. Often there is a riddle attached to find the site. The last one I did was in St. Louis called: Scarab! I'm trying to combine these two hunts with another one called Armchair treasuring hunting. To read more look at the "links" section in the geocaching site. Good luck

Paul, I'll let you talk to the fine lady from the K.C. Star!!! Liz, Thank you for your interest! Ryan, To answer your question about letterboxing: (just now read your message). Hard to explain but here goes...In the 1800's a man left his business card in a bottle in England..years later someone else found it...This turned into a phenomenon where people will hand-make these intricate rubber stamps and hide them--only giving compass directions/vague coordinates (100 paces North from a tree...) and once found you use your personally hand-made rubber stamp to stamp their log and you use theirs (in the cache) to stamp your log...There are actually a few in K.C. Sometimes letterboxing sites and geocaching are combined. Often there is a riddle attached to find the site. The last one I did was in St. Louis called: Scarab! I'm trying to combine these two hunts with another one called Armchair treasuring hunting. To read more look at the "links" section in the geocaching site. Good luck

Hi, I'm a reporter for the FYI section of the Kansas City Star. I've been assigned to do a story on geocaching and it's popularity in the KC area. Would anybody be willing to talk to me about the sport and maybe even take me along on a hunt? My email address is laustin@kcstar.com and my work phone number is 816-234-4362. I'd really appreciate any help anybody could give me.

The Rock and Roll cache is in North Carolina. Here's what the ranger had to say in the log after he found it: "Hello everyone! I happen to be the ranger that removed this cache. Unfortunately, no one contacted us about placing it as specified in the info about placing caches on public lands. I have to admit I see the fun in this activity as it took me two tries to find it. As Outlander indicated the area where this was, was dangerous and ecologically sensitive. There are herd paths in the area now, and I suspect some (but not all) are from people trying to located this cache. I would be willing to talk to someone about viable alternatives in the park if anyone is interested. Call the park office 704 853-5375." Many of the rangers around this part of the country are laid back and a bit like Andy of Mayberry. Unfortunately, a few are more Barney-like and one can only hope that they only have one bullet that they are required to keep in a shirt pocket. This particular ranger is more than likely an "Andy". He's offered his assistance to help find a better, less sensitive location for the cache, so even though he confiscated it, I'm for giving him the benefit of a doubt that he'd like to work with us. The whole scenario does have a way of making a case for portions of this site being available on a paid-subscription basis.

I just got my Etrex Legend last Thursday and havent put it down since. Easy to learn, in fact I hid my first cache about 3 hours ago. Talk about a cool toy ! It even aquires position in my house in about 45 seconds.

agel! talk about devotion to a sport. Make sure you bring your gps with you as that is Gimpy's and my primary goal while in syracuse...CACHE HUNTING! I figure if we start at different sides of the city we won't run into each others group to give away the locations. But I am game for just about anything. I am looking forward to meeting everyone, and to tell you the truth I have never even met a real live cacher before. Hope you guys are not a bunch of loons just released from some state hospital, at least not like the one I came from I already have my routes programmed into my software for the GPS's, laid out my favorite hiking boots and lucky tee shirt. Heck I have even painted up 3 .50cal ammo cans in case I find a great spot along the way! ------------------ Quinn Stone Rochester, NY.14616 www.Navicache.com

agel! talk about devotion to a sport. Make sure you bring your gps with you as that is Gimpy's and my primary goal while in syracuse...CACHE HUNTING! I figure if we start at different sides of the city we won't run into each others group to give away the locations. But I am game for just about anything. I am looking forward to meeting everyone, and to tell you the truth I have never even met a real live cacher before. Hope you guys are not a bunch of loons just released from some state hospital, at least not like the one I came from I already have my routes programmed into my software for the GPS's, laid out my favorite hiking boots and lucky tee shirt. Heck I have even painted up 3 .50cal ammo cans in case I find a great spot along the way! ------------------ Quinn Stone Rochester, NY.14616 www.Navicache.com

i used clear packing tape to attach a "for sale" sign to the outside of a car window once. this was the kind of tape that you can purchase from the postal service, so i guess it is what you are referring to. when it became time to remove the sign, the tape residue was very stubborn. i can't talk myself into using this stuff. everyone keep their eyes open, and keep the screen protection ideas coming. together, we will stumble onto something ideal.

Talk about difficult Caches, this weekend we were stopped dead in our tracks by the very loud and very close growl of what we assume was a Mountain Lion. Since we didn't want the dogs to end up cat food, we decided to come back without them another day. We wish we had seen it but it was in a very heavily covered area and that sound can chill your blood. YIKES!

Hey group, I've read the posts here, and there are some interesting points being made. First off, we do need to consider the environmental concerns being addressed. Having said that, I think "*Matt and Dave Sutherland" are addressing some concerns for a particular locale. Dave's points of concern are very good, but, it sounds like his area has some serious issues with overuse of the wilderness space. Seems to me that focusing on Geocaching isn't going to resolve the preexisting issue of "social trails." While I think their concerns are important, consider the threads here that talk about responsible items in caches, gaining permission before placing a cache, and etc. I think Jeremey and company are doing a good job at trying to educate folks before they go out chasing caches. Newbies like me need to help. :0 My fiance and myself have prepped three caches for the central part of our state (topic of another thread). We are working with local people to: 1) get permission to place them in state and local parks, and 2) get assistance in safe places to place them. When I mean safe, I mean non-hazardous locations that won't harm sensitive plant, animal or human life. Also good locations that highlight the beauty of the parks. (see thread on "how far off the trail") If a park or open space is that sensitive, then we should avoid it- so should everyone. I don't see anyone here talking about 4wheeling to the coordinates, or leaving their picnic trash behind after a long hunt. I do see people taking exception to being attacked by Matt. Mr. Sutherland, you sound like you'd be a good person to help out with some of the environmental concerns in Colorado. I will work with my local folks to do what I said above. Richard