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I dislike liar's caches because often it's not clear in the description that the D/T rating and/or attributes are all fake. I prefer geocaching to be a real adventure and not some fantasy. I recently found a liar's cache, and I didn't even realize it was one until I found the container itself. Went back home and left the log "Things got pretty dicey, but we found it". Even this short statement is more than I would like to place in my log, because nothing really did get dicey at all. I want my log to be a real representation of what I went through to get the cache. The CO emailed me later, threatening to delete my log if I didn't rewrite it to talk about all the "crazy danger" associated with this cache.

If they talk to you you can get interesting information. I have been known to get into Philosophical discussions with ministers, but not any that I met Waymarking. I did have a running discussion with the minister at the Seventh Day Adventist Church that I work at during elections. I miss him since he was transferred to another church.

Hello fellow geocaching community! My name is Meghan, I work at the Manchester Public Library in Iowa. For our summer reading program this year we are looking to do a geocaching program. We would need someone who is interested in coming to give a short 30 to 45 minute program on how to get started with geocaching and what types of caches are out there. We need someone who could talk about it as well as show a few videos on geocaching. Please message me on here or you can always call the Library at 563-927-3719. Thanks! I have found quit a few caches since I have discovered geocaching, but not sure if I know enough to do a whole program on it myself.

I agree with almost everything you say here. For those of us who don't have a smartphone because we live where it isn't offered, it really looks like GS is trying to push us away. It seems very apparent to me that the techies have zero interest in anyone who isn't using a smartphone. For me, they have made it so I can't even load caches with my Magellan, using the Firefox browser. I am stuck using Internet Explorer, of all things. Talk about a giant step backwards.

Hi, my name is Dijana or Pikapis on geocaching. I am from Lithuania but now living in Northern Ireland about 2 month. I would love to meet and talk and ofcourse to geocache with new people. Feel free to write to me.

Hi, my name is Dijana or Pikapis on geocaching. Im from Lithuania but now living in Northern Ireland. Im searching for a geocaching friend or friends. I just want to improve my english language (couse I know it a little bit broken ) and make some friends. Feel free to write to me. If you want to see some my geocaching pictures you can find me on Instagram as Pikapis. I would love to talk and geocaching together

How about hosting an event (Cachers don't need much to get them someplace where there is food and alcoholic drinks) with the Title being what you want and then he can come and talk to a bunch of people and have a good time while interviewing.

Recognizing that they're being impacted and reconsidering whether the change is really justified. Instead, all we get are people trying to talk them out of what they like. I'm pretty sure that TPTB know/recognize that cachers are being affected by their announced logging restrictions. Their official announcement was updated to clarify that they will not make exceptions for specific caches. I don't believe they would've made that clarification if they weren't aware of the discussions requesting exceptions for specific caches, and if they hadn't considered whether to make exceptions or not. I was speaking of sympathy from people here in this discussion, not from GS. I don't pretend to know what GS is thinking unless they tell me. In which case sympathy has been shown here in this thread for the impact on YOSM and brass caps. +1 I don't agree that "all we get are people trying to talk them out of what they like". There have been multiple cachers that have expressed sympathy that YOSM won't be able to continue as it has. Only a small number of cachers have seemed dismissive of YOSM fans' concerns, although they've posted multiple times in this thread and so maybe that has amplified their tone.

Recognizing that they're being impacted and reconsidering whether the change is really justified. Instead, all we get are people trying to talk them out of what they like. I'm pretty sure that TPTB know/recognize that cachers are being affected by their announced logging restrictions. Their official announcement was updated to clarify that they will not make exceptions for specific caches. I don't believe they would've made that clarification if they weren't aware of the discussions requesting exceptions for specific caches, and if they hadn't considered whether to make exceptions or not. I was speaking of sympathy from people here in this discussion, not from GS. I don't pretend to know what GS is thinking unless they tell me. In which case sympathy has been shown here in this thread for the impact on YOSM and brass caps.

Recognizing that they're being impacted and reconsidering whether the change is really justified. Instead, all we get are people trying to talk them out of what they like. I'm pretty sure that TPTB know/recognize that cachers are being affected by their announced logging restrictions. Their official announcement was updated to clarify that they will not make exceptions for specific caches. I don't believe they would've made that clarification if they weren't aware of the discussions requesting exceptions for specific caches, and if they hadn't considered whether to make exceptions or not. I was speaking of sympathy from people here in this discussion, not from GS. I don't pretend to know what GS is thinking unless they tell me.

I'm not sure that unintended duplicate logs will always have the same text. I've only received 1 duplicate log and such a test would not have caught it. First log was 12 words long. Second log, received 8 minutes later, was 14 words long. There were only 2 words shared by both logs. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's exactly what the official Groundspeak app does. The app doesn't get rid of puzzles and multis. It just restricts those caches to cachers that are willing to pay for the convenience of finding caches via the app. Recognizing that they're being impacted and reconsidering whether the change is really justified. Instead, all we get are people trying to talk them out of what they like. I'm pretty sure that TPTB know/recognize that cachers are being affected by their announced logging restrictions. Their official announcement was updated to clarify that they will not make exceptions for specific caches. I don't believe they would've made that clarification if they weren't aware of the discussions requesting exceptions for specific caches, and if they hadn't considered whether to make exceptions or not.

Oh. I have one that was picked up by a 'geocacher' with one find in 2006. Another by a geocaching couple who broke up in 2012. She said I should talk to her ex. Oh, well.

Recognizing that they're being impacted and reconsidering whether the change is really justified. Instead, all we get are people trying to talk them out of what they like. Oh, brother. Nice illustration of not having any sympathy for the people complaining for pages and pages right here in this thread about losing some well loved caches. Perhaps I should reduce "recognizing" to simply listening to the people being impacted. That's about all I can muster to this one, since we may as well just go back to the beginning of the thread.

Recognizing that they're being impacted and reconsidering whether the change is really justified. Instead, all we get are people trying to talk them out of what they like. Oh, brother. Nice illustration of not having any sympathy for the people complaining for pages and pages right here in this thread about losing some well loved caches. Perhaps I should reduce "recognizing" to simply listening to the people being impacted.

Cliques, i see just about every time i go to an event. Like someone mentioned, most are good friends that want to talk with each other. I don't think they're trying to be snobby on purpose but for a new comer or someone shy, i'm sure they aren't fun to encounter. I've always enjoyed fun events and make sure to visit with everyone, especially new people. As far as knowing who's premium and who's not, most of the time i have no idea. Can't remember it ever being brought up at an event. I've never known anyone to buy premium membership in order to feel superior or for bragging rights.

+1 here When I have hosted an event, I made sure to talk to everybody--at least to say hello and thanks for coming. As the event progressed I made sure to talk to those who were not sitting with a group--if they are just hanging on the edge of a group and not participating in the conversation I may not notice that. But if I'm not the host, I talk to whomever I want to--usually this is a person by him/herself because I do better in a one-on-one than in a group conversation (poor social skills ya know). Mostly people talk to others that they know; that's just natural and it's not a "clique" at all, though it could look like it to someone who wants to see it that way. Cliques deliberately shut others out; all geocaching event group conversations that I have seen include newcomers. But if someone is going to sit apart and wait to be included, that's not likely to happen. The person who wants to be included has to make some effort to be included.

I'm surprised you would know that everybody there is a premium member. I've been to a lot of events, and I have no idea who is premium and who isn't. Nobody wears badges saying "I'm a Premium!" and I can't recall this ever coming up in a conversation at an event, unless you happen to be talking about one of the small number of features available to premium members only. As far as cliques, are they really exclusionary or just groups of people that know one another well and hang out? I'm not a real social person, so when I go to events I tend to talk with the people I know and have cached with these past 14 years or so. There are a lot of people in my area I don't know, and I will not strike up a conversation with them unless I recognize their name and have something to say about their cache or a log of theirs. I really don't believe there is anybody who pays money to purchase status. They pay money to get access to additional features and caches. Many people make their caches premium to reduce the chances of a cache getting taken in high muggle areas. I've made mine premium only when there are reports of cache theft, usually a temporary thing because some young kid found out about geocaching and wanted to be a jerk. Or they do it to reduce traffic so the cache owner doesn't need to do as much maintenance. If adding favorite points was available to all cachers, then cache popularity could easily be fudged by creating accounts whose purpose was to favorite one's own or friends caches. I could easily get 100 favorite points in an hour by creating bogus accounts.

Ok, I will try to explain it one more time. Maybe I didn't make my point clear enough, blame it on my bad English. "Stolpersteine" are small metal plates with the names of Holocaust victims that are produced by the mentioned artist Gunter Demnig. Here in Vienna, Austria some people wanted to order some of these, but they would have to wait for a year or more, because the artist was so busy. So they decided to create their own "Stolpersteine". The are about the same size, are also made of metal, show the name of Holocaust victims and are built into the pavement in front of the house where the victim lived. If you want to compare: http://www.Waymarking.com/waymarks/WMNPJ0 is a real Stolperstein by Gunter Demnig. http://www.Waymarking.com/waymarks/WMQZNR is part of the project "Steine der Erinnerung" (Stones of Remembrance) and not done by Gunter Demnig. You will see that they both look pretty similar AND they both have the same purpose. However, the description of the category is currently just allowing the work of Gunter Demnig. That means that all the other similar, but not "real" Stolpersteine would either have to be listed in the Holocaust category or the Citizen Memorials category or ??? or not at all. My waymark was about 3 victims and I think that it's a good idea to create a waymark about that. If not in the Stolpersteine category, then in the Holocaust category. And once again: I wanted to DISCUSS about it. If the group says "No, we don't want to change anything and we don't want to talk about it", it is fine for me. If the solution is to post it in the Holocaust category, fine. If they also have a reason to deny it, ok, then I will go and search other waymarks instead. I just wanted to hear what people think. Ok?

Are you asking about creating "Field Notes" in the app? If so, then that is already available in the app, although they are now called "Drafts" instead of "Field Notes". You can read about it in the March 9th Release Notes thread. Hi Geocaching HQ, I already know this option I talk about a way to export "Drafts" like in my GPS receiver called "FieldNote.txt". is really more easy to log multi caches and standardise the log. This option is essentiel for me. I understand the way to use "Draft" but for many geocachers the able to Export into txt file is more easy for us. I hope you dev team have this feature in the next release. Regards, Just to clarify, I am not Geocaching HQ. Neither is niraD or The A-Team that have also replied to you. Can you explain how you would use the Draft if it is in a text file? Do you add more text around what you have saved in the app/GPSr? If so, then couldn't you type your logs in any text file on your computer - it doesn't have to be the fieldnote.txt file. You could open the Draft on the website or app to look at it while typing your log in a separate text file.

Absolutely priceless! Most if not all of your posts amount to your lack of willingness to accept slight inconveniences! And that of 'many' geocachers who apparently would rather throw in the towel than accept them. Talk about double standards I guess you then misread my statements. I usually write either about my preferences or what I observe in the local community and not what I want the site to prescribe on others. It's quite easy to make someone leave geocaching who is not any longer attached to it and who just keeps some caches for the enjoyment of others. There small things then can suffice to make yet another one leave. Those who are still very attached to geocaching are rather in a position where one could hope that they are willing to accept compromises and also see the needs of others within the activity.

Absolutely priceless! Most if not all of your posts amount to your lack of willingness to accept slight inconveniences! And that of 'many' geocachers who apparently would rather throw in the towel than accept them. Talk about double standards

Are you asking about creating "Field Notes" in the app? If so, then that is already available in the app, although they are now called "Drafts" instead of "Field Notes". You can read about it in the March 9th Release Notes thread. Hi Geocaching HQ, I already know this option I talk about a way to export "Drafts" like in my GPS receiver called "FieldNote.txt". is really more easy to log multi caches and standardise the log. This option is essentiel for me. I understand the way to use "Draft" but for many geocachers the able to Export into txt file is more easy for us. I hope you dev team have this feature in the next release. Regards,

+1 Yep. Since '09 or so, we've logged less than half the events we attended.. Some I consider similar to family dinners, with the same folks, same subjects discussed, same location. Fun to talk with friends, but (to me) not that big a deal. Others just seemed to be only about another "smiley" on their way to a cache run, as most (except for the host) leave after signing the log. One bragged once that he hit over a dozen events in one day (sign n scoot). Those (to me) aren't events... Apparently many aren't familiar with guidelines either, or they'd be waving from their cars.

You could just log the ET Highway caches. It isn't like the owners try to verify any of the signatures on the logs. That will buy you more than a thousand posts here on the unicorn- and rainbow-infested forums. Shhh...don't talk about rainbows - Lep's listening.

I know that this can be a passionate subject for some of the people participating in this thread. I just want to remind everyone to please keep the posts civil, and please do not make rude or off topic comments. We can talk about our differences without being inappropriate with our personal or national comments.