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Editing Previous Logs for a Personal Coin
cerberus1 replied to FossTanager's topic in General geocaching topics
The header for the forums, "Talk about trackable and oh-so-collectible Geocoins" doesn't sound like more about trading to me... We know of a few families that use a "personal trackable" for their kids, who were too young to log on their own but were present. They bought them close to when starting, and back-dated the ones done beforehand to it. When/if the kids want to open their own accounts, they have a record of all hides found. IIRC, rather than edit previous logs, most simply logged a note for that log date, so the CO was aware they "added" to the cache history. -
If you've been to the cache site for sure don't be timid. If you've never been to the area, mind your own business. That's my philosophy. But then I am not perfect either. Geocaching is a community thing, if all of us just mind our own business, geocaching will die. TRIM Oh pu-lease. Was my point that difficult to see? Was your point that you're not perfect either? I think I see the point and I think I agree with it. We can and should all identify problems so they can be resolved, one way or another. Posting N/A is a serious action. We all know that n000bs sometimes post it too quickly (they search for 5 minutes and assume it's missing). To me, posting N/A on a cache you've never visited is a bit extreme. IMO that crosses the line to becoming a "cache cop." I was making a joke unrelated to the topic. I agree with bflentje, but I disagree with two parts of your response. NA isn't "a serious action". It's just a log type, and people sometimes get it wrong. If you think it's "serious", then you take the game too seriously. Then, there's the "cache cop" thing. We're all "cache cops", and I'm really sick of seeing this tossed around as an insult. Yes, yes, people can be overbearing or deliberately inflammatory when posting NAs. But that's a HUGE minority of cases for how the NA log is actually used in the overwhelming majority of cases. And in those where it is not, see "taking the game too seriously" if someone gets undie-bundled over a NA log. It's not just the job of a Reviewer to look at a cache and weigh the evidence for a log. If I can tell that a cache needs maintenance as I'm researching for a trip, I can certainly log that. And if the case seems very clear that a NA is possible, then there's really no reason not to log that as well. Now, if you want to talk about a big difference here--then we can talk about where someone is not a "cache cop", but just a plain "jerk". That is when one might simply start couch-clicking through cache listings and logging NA from their armchair with Cheeto dusted fingers when they have no plan whatsoever to ever be at or near that cache.
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Fast and Loose With Contact Guidelines
dprovan replied to ecanderson's topic in General geocaching topics
I have no idea what GS or the reviewers think about, but I can't help but imagine that there are some areas where if they didn't allow caches that skirted some of the requirements, there's be no caches at all. If that's what's going on, I can't blame them for ignoring some of the rules once in a while. In particular, in some places, a cache not protected by a business might not last very long. Calling it "trying to fill up their maps" isn't really fair. Geocaching is a hobby, and people enjoy adding their hobby to their vacations. There's no need to belittle that by asserting that they don't enjoy it on vacation for the same reasons we all enjoy it every day and only want to look for caches on vacation because of some mindless numbers grubbing. (Is that why you're looking for these same caches?) While I generally understand the negatives of, say, business caches, are the negatives really so large that you don't want the caches available for you to seek at all? Historically, business caches have been upfront about the requirement to interact with the business, so I've never had much trouble when I'm traveling understanding that a cache had that requirement and skipping it if I didn't want to interact with anyone. But with the rules having changed, particularly if people complain, you're likely to run into more caches that do require interaction because there's no other way to have a cache in that area, yet don't talk about it because it wouldn't get through review. I'm not sure that's better. -
"Hey wait! You’re about to leave Geocaching.com. Are you sure you want to do that?" "( ) Allow dialogues from www.geocaching.com to take you to their tab" (Or similar words. I only saw it once.) What is the meaning of the tortured English I've highlighted in bold? Take you to their tab? What?!? (BTW, "dialog boxes" in Canadian English are spelt "dialog boxes", in case you're trying to translate. No need to translate that word. Dialogue isn't a computer term up here, it's when people talk.) Why did this only appear once? If that's intentional, shouldn't there be a "don't ask again" or similar gadget? *** E161118: Parse Error - unable to detect Language ***
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I consider it one way. Not only is that what I sense is standard in my area, I also claim that it makes sense logically: the CO is only rating what it takes to find the cache. Getting back isn't the CO's problem. I would tend to make the terrain rating higher because of the AWD requirement, although I'm not sure exactly how. If the AWD trip isn't too long, I'd be tempted to just assume no AWD and rate the terrain based on hiking from where someone with a mere mortal's car would have to park. I'm not sure how I'd handle the possible AWD parking. Without having a specific example, I'd generally just not talk about it, hence not feel any need to explain that 2WD is ill advised.
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Pizza Restaurants - National vs Regional
PISA-caching replied to Max and 99's topic in General Waymarking Topics
What exactly is "the rest of the story", that I did NOT tell in my posting? I said that they have 5 shops in 2 Austrian cities. Would the situation be so different, if there were 3 in Vienna and 2 in Graz? And thank you for the explanation "Regional means just that - regional.". That really helps a lot. :-) I was hoping for some facts like "at least 3 cities" or "half the provinces of your country" or... anything. Instead you feel attacked and blamed for whatever. That "let's talk" sounds like you will consider it again when there is another shop in Berlin, but maybe that is a misinterpretation by me. Anyway, I know what I will do. When the "chain" opens the next shop in a different city, I will post that waymark again and I will continue to post it with every new shop they open in an additional city (they're planning to open one in Berlin, Germany and one in Bern, Switzerland too) and one day - I hope - this chain will be "regional" enough for the category. Just for the records: I'm not a fan of vegan food, but their burgers and fries are really delicious. I have the impression, that what you told us is your interpretation of the word "regional". I wonder, if the other officers have the same opinion. Or is it possible that another officer would have accepted it and another one would expect more locations than you? In other words: Is there no defined limit and if there isn't, wouldn't it be good to have one, so that waymarkers know from the start, whether their new waymark has a chance of being accepted or not? -
Pizza Restaurants - National vs Regional
iconions replied to Max and 99's topic in General Waymarking Topics
I was the one who denied that waymark. Please PISA-caching, continue with the rest of the explanation of your waymark and tell the rest of the story. 4 of those locations were in Vienna and the single other location was Graz - not hardly a "regional" chain. Regional means just that - regional. Just getting a second city isn't a "regional" presence. If you are going to call someone out, please make sure you give all of the story. elyob, really? I would be careful making comments on things you have NO idea what you are talking about. Here are the requirements: * Franchises or chains that are confined to one country will be considered "regional" for the purposes of this category. It was considered.* Franchises or chains that have outlets in more than one country may be considered regional if it is a relatively small group and still confined a small, well-defined area. These will be evaluated on a case by case basis. (emphasis mine) 4 in one city and 1 in another isn't a small, well defined area. It's a burger idea that may become regional, it isn't at this point. Now, if that German location finally opens, let's talk - it would then be eligible, or if another Austrian location opens, or even another in Graz. Until then, though, SEE THAT LAST SENTENCE!!!!!!!!!!! My definition, as an officer of regional:. "An established chain, usually franchised, that has a wide spread footprint in one large state or many states. Too many states and international then makes it a "National" chain." Now, with the Burgers, Five Guys started as "regional" it has since gone "national", however we will still accept Five Guys. In the Pizza category. I would say that Pizza Hut, Papa John's, Domino's, Little Caesar's, and Marco's are national. Per the category description - What qualifies as a REGIONAL franchise or chain: 1. Any franchise or chain already on the list! As new waymarks are submitted, that franchise/chain will be added to the variable drop-down list and we'll try to keep the list here updated. No, Marco's Pizza does not fit here because it isn't on the list.2. Basic definition for the United States and Canada * In general a chain should have outlets in several states, although in some cases they may be confined to one large state. No, doesn't fit here because it is in LOTS of states.* If a group of businesses is family owned, or has only a few outlets in a smaller geographic area, then it is probably in independent shop. No, it is definitely NOT independent.* The line between REGIONAL and NATIONAL is more difficult to draw. We will try to be flexible on this, but in general we will follow these guidelines:- Outlets in fewer than 20 states - Marco's Pizza has MORE than 20 states and is in 2 International Countries.- Confined to a geographic region such as west coast, east coast, midwest or south. No, it has a large presence in the South, in Texas, in the upper MIDWEST, and starting to have a large presence in California and the West. (usually there will be a concentration in the original city or state, dispersed outward. So to answer the original question, the answer is no, Marco Pizza would NOT be regional, It is national. As far as changing the category - you will need to contact the category owner who just happens to be inactive. I've tried to get a new owner, but I was blocked. Also, changing category descriptions like that caused a hew and cry when the Solar group did it - probably not going to happen. My suggestion - try to start a new category, if you can, for these national chains. This could have been discussed with an email to me privately which you have done many times in the past. You did seem more than willing, however, to drag me onto this forum discussion when none of the officers were getting involved. Really not cool. Forum discussions are an optional activity - if you really wanted an answer, contact me directly, don't try to call me out here. But, by, sending this to the forums, however, I have had to defend myself on a denial on a totally unrelated issue, which I am more that willing to do, and to tell someone else to mind their own effing business as they are getting involved into something where they didn't have all of the facts. Ah well, another day of Waymarking. -
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I can't decipher the OP. What in the world is this thread about? Phony logs. I almost thought BrianSnat's count-down post was going to be prophetic on a nostradamus scale for a second there. I don't understand his post, either. Is there some sort of tool that everyone is using to decrypt this thread? Yes, there is. My reply will appear first in English and then in TXT (annoying as it is!) and then in L337 (aka Leet) ~~~~~~~~~~ ENGLISH VERSION OF MY REPLY: I agree with you that the original post was extremely hard to read, and even harder to understand. I personally find such types of messages to be rather annoying. However, what I do, when I encounter such things, is to go to one of the many online TXT to English (and English to TXT) translators and plug the text in there to see what comes out. One of several really good online translators may be found at: http://www.transl8it.com/cgi-win/index.pl?convertPL However, many "texters" also mix in another language, often called "Leet" or "elite" and thus you may also need to employ a Leet-to-English translator as well! ~~~~~~~~~~~~ TXT VERSION OF MY REPLY: zOMG! you r teh winz!!one!!eleven! I agrE w U dat d orignL post wz extremely hard 2 rED, & evN harder 2 undRstNd. I personLlE find such typz of msgz 2 b rather anoyN. Eleventy! howevR, wot I do, wen I encounter such tngz, iz 2 go 2 1 of d mNE on9 TXT 2 eng (& eng 2 TXT) transl8rz & plug d txt n ther 2 c wot cumz out. 1 of sevrl rly gud on9 transl8rz mA b found @: http://www.transl8it.com/cgi-win/index.pl?convertPL howevR, mNE "texters" also mix n NothA lngwij, ofn caLd "l337" o "l33t" & thus U mA also nEd 2 employ a Leet-to-English transl8r az weL! u R teh r0x)r!! ~~~~~~~~~ L337 VERSION OF MY REPLY: 1 49r33 \/\/17|-| j00Z 7|-|@ 7|-|3 0r191|\|4L p0$7 \/\/4$ 3><7r3/\/\3L'/ |-|4rD 70 r34D, 4|\|D 3\/3|\| |-|4rD3r 70 U|\|D3r$74|\|D. 1 p3r$0|\|4LL'/ Ph1|\|D $U(|-| 7'/P3$ 0Ph /\/\3$$493$ 70 b3 r47|-|3r 4|\||\|0'/1|\|9. |-|0\/\/3\/3r, \/\/|-|@ 1 d0, \/\/|-|3|\| 1 3|\|(0U|\|73r $U(|-| 7|-|1|\|9$, 1$ 70 90 70 0|\|3 0Ph 7|-|3 /\/\4|\|'/ 0|\|L1|\|3 7><7 70 3|\|9L1$|-| (4|\|D 3|\|9L1$|-| 70 7><7) 7r4|\|$L470r$ 4|\|D pLU9 7|-|3 73><7 1|\| 7|-|3r3 70 $33 \/\/|-|@ (0/\/\3$ 0U7. 0|\|3 0Ph $3\/3r4L r34LL'/ 900D 0|\|L1|\|3 7r4|\|$L470r$ /\/\4'/ b3 Ph0U|\|D 47: |-|77P://\/\/\/\/\/\/.7r4|\|$L817.(0/\/\/(91-\/\/1|\|/1|\|D3><.PL?(0|\|\/3r7PL |-|0\/\/3\/3r, /\/\4|\|'/ "73><73r$" 4L$0 /\/\1>< 1|\| 4|\|07|-|3r L4|\|9U493, 0Ph73|\| (4LL3D "L337" 0r "L337" 4|\|D 7|-|U$ j00Z /\/\4'/ 4L$0 |\|33D 70 3/\/\PL0'/ 4 L337-70-3|\|9L1$|-| 7r4|\|$L470r 4$ \/\/3LL! ~~~~~~ End of all text. The End. . That is outrageous! ...and I mean that in the best possible way! And.... in all honesty and fairness, it appears that the original post by the OP was NOT really written in Text talk, aka SMS talk, nor in L337 talk (aka Leet talk), but rather, it appears that he was writing in his own private personal cryptic shorthand style, one that seems to consist of putting thought fragments to words, not caring about sentence structure or syntax, and not paying attention to normal rules of capitalization. It took me a number of reads before I could understand what he was trying to say.
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funkymunkyzone replied to medoug's topic in General geocaching topics
While I hope that my logs are interesting to a cache owner, barring the times when I just can't think of much to say about a particular cache, I tend to look at my logs as my record of my caching and are ultimately for me. As such I will often talk about a lot more than just the cache itself and the search thereof. If particularly memorable then it might be the whole adventure that took me to that cache - some good examples here and there. I've had a few that have gone past the length of 1 log and I had to write a note to include the rest of the story. Never to pad the log for any stats though. -
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dprovan replied to learn2mine's topic in General geocaching topics
As I said, either confusion or to be funny. Not sure what you mean by "high maintenance". It doesn't make much difference to me. I'm imagining it's such a simple hide that I won't need other logs. Anyway, we still all agree that he shouldn't do it. That's why I mentioned I'd talk to him about it. -
I think it goes to the overall requirement that an earthcache be unique. "This is granite, let's talk about granite" is not unique. "This is granite, check out the inclusion at these coordinates and let's discuss it" is unique.
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nericksx replied to medoug's topic in General geocaching topics
Yeah, I wasn't clear. I didn't mean to imply that one should talk about the cache specifically ("well, it was green, made out of metal, kinda rusted..." LOL ?) I meant people weren't keeping their log entries to talking about the experience of that cache. The day or the weather, or getting to GZ or what have you. I agree that a bit of detail about what brought you out that day, what you found interesting about the area, experiences you had getting there - totally relevant. It was the folks going on about their vacation - not even the caching part of the vacation - that made me -
I'm talking about events like these: - An event on a highway while having some rest and a lunch with companions. - An event in a local village near a big river in taiga during a 2-hour stop of a cruise ship. - An event in a remote monastery deeply in woods/bogs. - An event at a gas station right after the hosts crossed the border and entered the country. - An event in a hotel lobby at 6am "because we're going to leave early". Events are supposed to be a social side of the game. Geocachers meet, talk, exchange trackables, walk, spend time in a pub, whatever. It's usually quite clear if an event is published just for a souvenir in someone's profile. Formally, nothing is wrong with such "lunch events" in most cases but - in my opinion - this practice undermines the very idea of geocaching events.
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Not a problem at all. Everyone her speaks the English language and would be happy to talk with you. Just give it a try. Best greetings, MB
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nericksx replied to medoug's topic in General geocaching topics
That explains a lot. I've jumped back into catching after not being as active for a couple of years, and newly noticed these huge logs that don't really talk about the cache itself at all. I didn't realize there are log length challenges. There are challenges for every hecking thing now. ? -
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thebruce0 replied to Barnyard Dawg's topic in General geocaching topics
Talk about going off the rails. No one's advocating legislating morality. I know you're already off the rails by your own admission, but that has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion, whatsoever, which is examining the feasibility of whatever incentives could be offered for good cache ownership - their merits and their drawbacks. -
I'm not sure how long you have been geocaching but there are all sorts of things left in caches that might be inappropriate for children (weapons, porn, underwear, birth control, feminine hygiene products) so it would probably be a good and safe idea for the adult(s) to check the cache contents before letting the kids at it. Again, religious tracts - whether one likes them or not - do not violate any guidelines. I found a sticker with a naked lady on it the other day. Personally, I'd rather explain a gory religious symbol to my non religious children than the naked lady sticker. Stuff that isn't allowed in geocaches as quoted above, still shows up in them. Banning it won't solve the problem. Want to make geocaching a better place? Trade up for questionable items, leave the cache better than you found it. Actions are louder than words. Didn't you previously say "I really don't want to talk about it again." Then when I respond mainly with an explanation of why I posted it, an acknowledgement of my mistake and an offer to have this post disappear due to my mistake, you respond with the above. Seems like you do want to talk about it. This seems overly defensive. I was commenting on a post by ThePetersTrio that I felt relavent. I don't want to debate religion. I do want to talk about geocaching. That's what this post was.
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TeamRabbitRun replied to Barnyard Dawg's topic in General geocaching topics
So let me get this straight: You participate in a hobby where you make things primarily for people who don't live there and don't care about you, and you're upset because they're not appreciative enough. You want GS to create something to make you feel better about yourself for creating these things when you don't see the point? In addition, there isn't enough local activity for you to be more active in the hobby, and you're upset that you can't participate at the same level as people who live in busier areas. Two suggestions: Maybe the 'hiding part of this hobby isn't for you, AND Take responsibility for your own hobby! If you don't like your caching environment, go change it! Go make more cachers to find your caches! Host events! Talk it up! Get into the local papers! Presentations at libraries or schools or places of worship or community centers! Get people to join you! Get people excited about this hobby! If you can't, then there's your answer; it just might not work where you are. You're right; this IS a game based in the US. Too bad, but that's where those guys lived when they started Groundspeak. I think Groundspeak does plenty to make accommodations for other places, but at some point you're responsible for you and your own experience.- 255 replies
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Saw a cellphone for 59 bucks at Walmart, has GPS including GLONASS and all the other goodies. Works with a Straight Talk phone network. My question is, can one just go in and buy the phone but never activate it and still use it for geocaching? I figure since the GPS would work, I could simply download a program like C:**** and manually load gpx files into the unit that way. I would have then a fully functional GPS unit that has an unlimited gpx file limit. I could also download maps and use them in the field. Along with having a camera, music, android apps, and wifi.... The only thing it couldn't do is make phonecalls unless I bought a straight talk calling card. Seems like a cheap way to get a super GPS unit for geocaching for just 59 bucks.... Is there any downside to this idea?????
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Hard to define a single best day. But like you, most were getting one challenging cache. There is a 10 mile hike in the woods multi cache about 80 miles from us that is close to number one. Logged it as found the first trip but have hiked it a few more times just for the fun of it. Another was when I loaded of the kayak, drove 120 miles, and paddled 2 miles to get an island cache. And yet another was a cache 45 feet up in a big magnolia tree that required some form of climbing gear, took three trips before I finally managed to get to the cache. I don't expect to find many caches like these out in the wild. However, it sure would be nice to run across one every once in a while that didn't require a drive of 300 or more miles to get to. Wouldn't be none of this talk of burnout for me if that was the case.
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I have posted this in other "forgot my pen" threads, so I'll echo it here: most people don't intend to go out caching with a pen, just as most people don't intentionally leave their wallets at home, or lose their pen in their bag, or leave a pen or hiking stick or phone or GPSr at a geocache. All have happened to me over the last eleven years of geocaching. I've never left my daughter at a geocache, but then she can walk and talk, and she wouldn't let me leave her behind even if I tried. If you have never forgotten anything, then kudos to you.
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A friend of mine has asked me to sell her collection as she is getting out of coin collecting. (Just so you know it is not GPXNavigators though.) I know that she has some really nice coins including some compass rose coins, yemon yime etc. dating up to about 2009) I don't have all the coins in my possession at the moment so I can't give a full list yet but I do have a pretty hefty bag full of coins here. Actually she has some that I have never seen before (Amazing I know! LOL) Some will be listed here for sale. Maybe some will be posted on facebook and some on ebay. If there are specific coins you might be looking for let me know and I will look at what I am sorting through right now to see if she has it. Most of her coins aren't activated. For now I have four listed on ebay. Talk a look at this one and then you can link to the others--all trackable. In honor of Talk Like A Pirate Day I also listed some pirate theme coins. Glass Traveler Geocoin Edit to try to fix link!
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Challenge Cache type update?
funkymunkyzone replied to the Seagnoid's topic in General geocaching topics
So why are there different cache types at all? Why not just one cache type, one icon, and just put different words in the title to differentiate cache types? I dont understand the resistance to the idea of having a different cache type for challenge caches. Would it actually harm the way you cache? It's funny in a way that we can all talk specifically about challenge caches, we all know *exactly* what type of cache that is as opposed to other cache types, and there are lots of them... but for some reason, there's disagreement that they are indeed a distinct type of cache. -
Thanks. I read your post and said out loud, "I'm glad I'm not the only one who blurts things out at their computer". Well, to be perfectly honest, I talk to things (or myself) a lot. I talk to the computer, the tv, cars, whathaveyou. My kids are always laughing at me, asking me who I'm talking to, or why I think the tv people will talk back to me.