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Sure, but actually the guideline is "Cannot be set up for the sole purpose of finding geocaches." The events are as usual, a meeting of folks to talk about the hobby. They get an "Attended" for the event. What they do afterwards is up to them. I usually wait a day or two, so I'm not "waiting-in-A-line..." to sign logs... We did a scavenger hunt-like event with others, with prizes for time. Takes all day. The event's afterwards. There's one in a state nearby (we attended a couple) that has folks caching in the snow before the event that's held at a pub. One doesn't have to participate in either to get the "attended" for the event itself.

I kinda feel the same. I'm really picky about areas I'll visit. I'd be at that "remote" location. If it was changed to a spot unrecognizable to the area I visited (like in town...) , it'd be a subject of discussion at events. I'm not a numbers person, so my find deleted, and the use of the ignore function would be my first move. - But I feel the Reviewer here might try to talk them out of it, the new location not close to original. Odd, but many locally actually agree on this thinking (which is rare), when this came up last. The CO should really take past finders into consideration. They think they weren't getting much activity before...

Where the heck do you live? Around here we go out of our way to welcome new geocachers. If a new face shows up at an event there is practically a line of people to greet him. Maybe it's a local cultural thing? I don't wanna say where it was, people can figure it out if they care that much, but it would seem rude. It be fair, it was a flash mob, so I suppose time was short. I introduced myself and the wife to about 4 or 5 people saying it was our first event and we usually just got a "hey." out of people. 2 or 3 cachers were really nice to us and we had nice little chats with them, but for most it was like I was asking them out on a date or something when I'd ask what their "caching name" was I know our community here is pretty good (I'm acive on our local group's forum and facebook) so I was pretty shocked when people were disinterested in saying howdy. The only reason we could come up with was our obvious age difference from the other people there. Same thing happened when I visited HQ. The older cachers kind of grouped together and didn't seem to interested in engaging when I'd try to strike up a friendly chat. We had really nice conversations with the lackeys and a geocaching "vlogger" who was there recording his completion of the "trifecta", but everybody else was pretty stand offish and gave one word answers. The few times I've met cachers in real life whiile caching have been pretty hit and miss. During Texas Parks and Wildlife's Texas Gecaching Challenge I met a few really awesome cachers (One of which perhaps ironically hosted the event we attended! Was very nice on both occasions btw!)and a few who couldn't care less. The most notable occasion when my friend somehow managed to deduce from paying attention to cars in the parking lots when we were coming and going from state parks, signatures in the logs and from the person's gender that, "This girl up here is ____. I guarantee it!" As she approached he asked, "Let me guess... you are ___ am I right?" "Yeah." "Awesome! We've been right behind you all day! my name is ___, this is ___ and this is ___" "Cool." *walks away* Very weird stuff... I deal with people for a living and I'm generally considered charismatic by people who know me. I don't LIKE meeting strangers, but I'm good at it. With cacherts though, it seems like a 50/50 shot that they will just blow me off. I've found non-cachers to be friendlier in general than cachers. That said, geeks in general tend to be less friendly than non geeks imo, and geocaching is a little geeky (I can use the "g word" I'm a former dungeon master) First off, a Flash Mob Event is not the best place to meet folks. They're only gonna be there 15-20 minutes, anyway, My brother, Semper Questio, is hosting an event in Austin in October. He tries to ensure that everyone enjoys themselves. Give it a try. Or, take a trip up here to the PNW. We are an event-happy bunch. There are 18 events on the schedule in Washington State between now and Halloween. And, I'm sure there will be more. The folks generally visiting the Lilly Pad seem a tad awe-struck about being there. Especially if they came a long distance. Sorta like going to Mecca, I guess. We've tried talking to out-of-towners when we're there, to not much avail. On the other hand, the Lackeys talk our ears off. Some of them, cuz they're nice folks, and want to talk about what they do. Others, cuz we've known them for years, and want to tell us all about everything. Generally, in our modern paranoid society, I find that most people (including cachers) are not real interested in talking to someone that a) they have never met will likely never talk to again. Except for up here. Most of the cachers that live here will talk to pretty much anybody.

I know this thread is 1 1/2 years old, but it's something we talk about on Waymarking. We visit Little Free Libraries all over the place, everywhere we travel. I've found some great reading material in those book exchanges! So yes, they really do get used! We leave fresh books in LFL when we travel (and magazines that are sent to me and I can't get cancelled!). There are stamps you can use that say something along the lines of Not for Sale, donated to a LFL. Visiting these libraries is one of my favorite things to do when I travel. I've really enjoyed browsing the books and leaving something I hope someone else will enjoy. That is so cool! I love the poker chip, too!

I would talk to the reviewer. Although his note talks about "for lack of maintenance", this is obviously boilerplate, and, I would assume, the phrase is not meant to apply specifically to this cache. In a sense, you disabled the cache because you were doing maintenance: you found a problem and were working on fixing it. Whether that was the reviewer's intent of not, it still seems excessively strict to penalize you for disabling the cache instead of archiving it. I'm pretty sure I've been seeing caches unarchived in cases like this regularly, although not frequently. So I have reason to suspect that at least my local reviewer is open to discussion about reviving a cache even though the strict letter of the law says he shouldn't. In my opinion, the rule about not unarchiving a cache is meant to avoid a CO that doesn't maintain his caches from continually letting his caches slip into archival and then pulling them back out at his convenience. I would hope that a CO with a good track record would get a break when the log seems to make a good case for the CO being forgetful rather than irresponsible.

If I had never found geocaching.... I would not have met so many wonderful people both here in Australia and on my overseas travels. The friendships I've made are amazing. Also, as a result of this game, I was invited onto Danish Community Radio in Copenhagen for a two hour program to discuss geocaching in Australia. We even had talk back with people phoning in to ask questions. It was a hoot!!!!!

I go through phases, I might check in once a week and at other times I have checked in once a month. Yes, FB is where it's at and I addressed this quite some time ago in another thread. Vendors and designers left this venue for a number of reasons. I will only speak for myself though. For the first 6 years, I designed for fun and not for profit. I designed geocoins and re-invested any $$$ I made into helping me attend geocoinfest and build a website and give coins away whether people were aware of it or not. Considering I was lucky to get out 4 designs in a year, it was more of a break-even thing for me and I loved every minute of it. My interest has slowed over the past couple of years as I have moved into different interests as far as designing goes. In 2013 I became an official business, no more hobby for me but my designs were going outside of the geocoin world. I'm still keeping my foot in the geocoin waters but as a business you have to learn to grow in order to survive. Everything changes and the geocoin forum has changed a lot over the years, even trackables have morphed into it's own animal. Here is what I find as a vendor to be the toughest issues to date. I work a full time job so when I come home my time is very limited. I also take classes to improve my education. I've got my feet in several different world and I have had to learn to pick and choose wisely as to where to spend my time. Since not everything I do is trackable, I can't come here and talk about my "stuff". I get that and I'm not complaining about it. However I can't hit all the venues that are available to me as a business person. Facebook, Twitter, LinkIn, Pintrest, personal website, personal blog, etc. I know it seems like it should all be easy but each on of those venues is it's own animal and learning how to navigate those and use them to a business' best advantage is time consuming. I can't tell you how overwhelmed I feel at times trying to figure out these new worlds and how to use them to my advantage. The forum here is very singular so that is limiting for any vendor who dabbles in anything outside of geocoins. I still come here and announce geocoins but I did get bad about it for awhile. I will continue to post geocoins for sale here as I design them but I just won't spend as much time here like I once did. The above paragraph leads me to another issue. I do believe the geocoin forum is a community and at one time I was not pleased when a vendor would come here and only "sell" their geocoin without much interaction with the community. They only saw us as a money machine to buy their coins. I do NOT want to be that vendor, granted it's not like I'm pumping out a coin design every month but I still feel strongly about people using a venue to sell something but never really care about the community. Now that I am in a different position, I find that FB is where I can still interact with everyone but I have my "own" community. What I mean by that is; I can talk about all my stuff and I can talk about geocoins, I can post links and pictures and for the most part, everyone who is there has elected to be there. Instead of me scrambling to be everywhere, I have a couple of places to interact with the community who elects to be there. I run contests, I promote my items, you name it I can do it. Everyone expects me to be doing that. I would love to have the old days back where we all got involved in geocoin discussions and excited about designs but those days have come and gone. Vendors and designers have to go where the action is for business reasons. FB accomplishes that right now and maybe in 3 years it will be someplace else. By all means, stay here and keep this place alive, it's still an excellent format to discuss all things geocoin and learn but at the same time we all have to find the balance in our lives. Please keep in mind, I've only touched on one or two facets of why people don't come here anymore but I'm merely speaking from a business perspective. I will always come here and announce coins and post numbers/editions and interact as time permits. For me this was the beginning of it all and will always hold a special place in my heart. tsun

Three strategies have been recommended in posts - ignore them or talk or call authorities. Talk is least advisable - the 15 minutes of fame, etc. Ignoring them is simple, easy and effective. For hard-core violators, a run-in with the law can be a good thing. Some municipalities use a scared-straight scenario for first time violators. It's: we can prosecute you now based on what you did. But you can redeem yourself. Do xyz act of community service, obey the law, and offense is cleared. HOWEVER, show up here again and we'll throw the book at you. Edit: leniency for violation #1 and a second chance is generally for minors. First time adult offenders get a break, but not as much.

During the Euro Mega event in France GC5YFA8, I met three times Dave Ulmer. The first time i talk to him about Waymarking, i spoke about the "huge" (exactly what i said) waymarkers community in Europe (France, Switzerland, Germany, Slovakia, Czech Republic, etc.) and i asked him to invest more resources in Waymarking because we are the poor parent (french expression) of Groundspeak. He said France is a nice country to play Waymarking and he played Waymarking also and the best waymark for him was where Bonnie and Clyde where shot. The next day he said, I thought last night of what you said, there were a long long time that someone talk to me about Waymarking... but there were too many people and not possible to continue the discussion. The last day he was enjoying watching people playing with zip-line (one of my next waymark) and he said in his house in Oregon in his garden he's got his own zip-line for his children and grand children. But i was geocaching and i could not stay. In conclusion the best way to promote Waymarking is to speak about it, especialy if the guy works in Groundspeak

Right. We archived an entire series because the area was changing, with very-large trees falling (a couple while we were there), and we felt safety a concern. - Attention not a given with many we've seen for a while now. There's more than a few videos on phones and attention... If I'm busy and folks don't know my phone number (I talk on the phone), it might be a day or better before I get back to them. I think it's really odd that someone would assume that I'd "appreciate" whatever throwdown they'd leave "to help me out". We've never used mediocre containers. Since I'd have to go back to replace the container they left anyway, I'd rather they log a NM and move on... - Though we act on logs, fixing 'em before waiting for a NM. "Log damp" not needing a NM a few weeks later to go fix... Now if they're replacing 30/50cals with 81mm mortar boxes, I've still got half a pallet for trade.

I have a cute "getting permission" story to share. We wanted to do a simple light pole cache (a match stick cache we bought on geocache.com). The parking lot it was standing in was a quaint minimall. We asked one of the store owners who owned the parking lot and explained why. He knew about geocaching and was very helpful, gave us the name & number of the owner and also said he would talk to him. We called the owner, explained what geocaching was, and asked if we could leave a "cache" under his light post. It was fine with him and then asked us...who keeps the "cash" people leave behind. lol

Moderators rarely start forum topics, but I hope the community can indulge me this soapbox to mark the occasion of my 20,000th forum post. Here is a collection of things I wanted to discuss. 20,000 Posts is quite a posting power trail. Why, and do you have a life? Those posts accumulated over 16 years. I've been a moderator since the very first day when the forums had volunteer moderators. Those posts are a combination of steering discussion participants towards following the forum guidelines, explaining the cache hiding guidelines and process, and helping people (especially newcomers) by answering questions about how geocaching works. I like that last part the most. I enjoy helping people and, like all who read this, I love reading and talking about geocaching. How are the forums now, versus 2003? When I first became a moderator, the forums were like the wild wild west. It was super busy and super chaotic, 24/7. New flame wars lit up every week. In part, that was because there were no moderators from 2000 to 2003. Jeremy Irish did a lot of the explaining and moderating. His style was blunt and direct, and that tended to stir up the beehive. Also, we didn't have the tools back then to moderate effectively, like permanently locking threads, efficiently stopping spammers, and suspending posting rights when appropriate. Finally, Geocaching HQ has improved greatly since then, with a supportive staff that helps head off problems in the community and to ensure consistency in application of the site terms of use, cache hiding guidelines, and forum guidelines. That wild west label applied in 2003 to site volunteers, too - myself included. My ego thought I owned this place. I didn't. Today, we can go for hours with few or no forum posts, and flame wars are pretty rare. One reason for the drop in traffic is the popularity of social media. Geocachers love to talk about geocaching, and now there are many ways to do that which didn't exist in 2003: Facebook, twitter, blogs, vlogs, etc. This is a good thing. So, how are the forums still relevant? Heading into 2020, in my opinion the two highest and best uses where the Geocaching Forums stand out are (1) helping newcomers and others with questions, and (2) announcing and explaining website features, changes and promotions. Newcomers often find the forums first, and they tend to receive more complete, accurate answers than in other channels. Site features are best discussed here and in other Geocaching HQ social media - announcements can't be posted to hundreds of local Facebook groups. I know that a lot of people read here, but don't post - they link to discussions and carry the news to their local community by posting elsewhere. If that's you, thank you for doing that, and please consider joining the discussions here. How can the forums be better? Be kind to others, especially newcomers. It may be the 132nd thread you've read, asking how it's possible to find hundreds of geocaches in a single day, but the person asking doesn't know that. Don't scare them off. Be nice to veterans, too - it is boring when everyone agrees with you, so keep an open mind when someone expresses an opinion which differs from yours. Finally, stay on topic and keep your posts relevant. Not every remark requires a reply. One of the best features of the forums is that there's an easily searchable, permanent database of answers about geocaching. Don't clog up the search results unnecessarily. Thank you for reading this, and for affording me the privilege of serving the geocaching community as a volunteer forum moderator. It's an honor and a pleasure.

I'm hoping someone can help me out. I built a cartridge and all during the Beta testing it worked flawlessly, everything triggering properly, no lags or glitches. Most of the changes I made along the way were minor such as zone location, when tasks appeared, and such. I did a final Beta test and it worked great. The only thing I did after the final Beta test was add a media picture to the cartridge. I posted the cache and the first person to try it said it crashed at a certain point. I went out to check it and sure enough, it crashed on mine also. I removed the media from the cartridge and tried again and it still crashes. It works fine on iphone but shuts down my Garmin Oregon 450. It always shuts it down in the same place, When I "Talk" to a character. The actions that are supposed to happen when I "Talk" to the character are: "Show a message to player", "Set 2 different Tasks active true", and "Set Task Complete true". Luckily this happens in the 3rd Zone and only 10 minutes into the cartridge. I have two other Zones set up exactly like the one that crashes and they work ok. There is an Object and a Character in each zone. The player must pick up the object and talk to the character. There are only 4 Zones active when the Garmin crashes. Here is the last few lines of the log. I can't see anything of significance: Nov 19 was when it started crashing Sat Nov 9 13:31:47 2013 INFO [Engine]: Logging level changed from 2 to 3 Thu Nov 14 10:29:14 2013 INFO [Engine]: Logging level changed from 2 to 3 Thu Nov 14 12:49:12 2013 INFO [Engine]: Logging level changed from 2 to 3 Thu Nov 14 14:05:26 2013 INFO [Engine]: Logging level changed from 2 to 3 Tue Nov 19 18:58:59 2013 INFO [Engine]: Logging level changed from 2 to 3 Tue Nov 19 19:07:54 2013 INFO [Engine]: Logging level changed from 2 to 3 Thu Nov 21 15:52:57 2013 INFO [Engine]: Logging level changed from 2 to 3 Thu Nov 21 17:13:55 2013 INFO [Engine]: Logging level changed from 2 to 3 I use the Groundspeak builder if that is of use. Thanks in advance and I hope someone can help Zorkan Heneron

Old topic but it is coming around again. There is again talk of barring anyone that doesn't have a hunting license from hiking on PA Gamelands. Applies year round regardless of hunting seasons.

Hi charlenni. Thanks for your response. The GWL last attempt at the cartridge is below. The way I have set up the cartridge is the player comes to the proximity of a zone, say Farmer, then another larger zone called Farmers House is activated and the Zone Farmer is deactivated. The character Farmer and an object Candy are in the Farmers House zone and visible. The player picks up the candy and talks to the farmer. Then they go to the next zone Fisherman which is set up just like the Farmer zone. Then the player goes to the Trapper Zone and the same thing. When the player talks to the Trapper the GPS shuts down. I noticed there are some weird characters in the dialogue of the Fisherman and the Trapper. I think I copied and pasted them from Word, so I'm wondering if that has something to do with it. Downloaded Fri Nov 22 16:53:44 2013 20131121171407|0.00000|0.00000|0.000|0.000|MessageBox:Show - Hellow Fellow cachers. This Wherigo is similar to the original event with some slight differences. One thing you will need to take note of is that at certain points along the game, you will need to get numbers off of trees. These numbers will be needed to find the cache at the end. There are messages to let you know when. You have Background, Situation and Mission statements in your inventory. There are also tasks to perform which will guide you along the way. Good luck and have fun. 20131121171407|0.00000|0.00000|0.000|0.000|Player:SetInventory - Will add Present Situation 20131121171407|0.00000|0.00000|0.000|0.000|Player:SetInventory - added Present Situation 20131121171407|0.00000|0.00000|0.000|0.000|Player:SetInventory - Will add Mission 20131121171407|0.00000|0.00000|0.000|0.000|Player:SetInventory - added Mission 20131121171407|0.00000|0.00000|0.000|0.000|Player:SetInventory - Will add Background 20131121171407|0.00000|0.00000|0.000|0.000|Player:SetInventory - added Background 20131121171407|0.00000|0.00000|0.000|0.000|AttributeChanged - Interview Fisherman, Active 20131121171407|0.00000|0.00000|0.000|0.000|AttributeChanged - Interview Trapper, Active 20131121171407|43.20073|-79.81531|100.785|13.650|Zone:Distant - Farmer 20131121171409|43.20072|-79.81530|101.650|13.189|MessageBox:Callback - [button1] No script to execute 20131121171508|43.20074|-79.81479|157.559|10.709|Zone:Proximity - Farmer 20131121171508|43.20074|-79.81479|157.559|10.709|AttributeChanged - Farmers House, Active 20131121171508|43.20074|-79.81479|157.559|10.709|AttributeChanged - Farmers House, Visible 20131121171508|43.20074|-79.81479|157.559|10.709|AttributeChanged - Farmer, Active 20131121171508|43.20074|-79.81479|157.559|10.709|AttributeChanged - Farmer, Visible 20131121171508|43.20074|-79.81479|157.559|10.709|Zone:Enter - Farmers House 20131121171515|43.20075|-79.81477|159.575|10.903|ZCommand:exec - Candy:Pickup 20131121171515|43.20075|-79.81477|159.575|10.903|Player:SetInventory - Will add Candy 20131121171515|43.20075|-79.81477|159.575|10.903|Player:SetInventory - added Candy 20131121171515|43.20075|-79.81477|159.575|10.903|ZCommand:Enabled - Disabled Candy Pickup 20131121171519|43.20076|-79.81477|160.283|11.020|ZCommand:exec - Farmer:Talk 20131121171519|43.20076|-79.81477|160.283|11.020|MessageBox:Show - Well howdy there young'ns. I was tending to good old Bessie me cow when I heard this here thunderous roar coming out of the east. It was louder than that there twister from '39 if it made a peep at all. Gave poor old Bessie a fright, it sure did. She done did took off on me, poor gal. Hey y'all don’t s'pose you could take a bit a time and fetch 'er up for me could ya, or at least tie er off on a tree? I'd be mighty right happy about that, and there'd be a 2 spot in it fer ya. You could probably follow her trail. She was due fer milkin. She can’t be too far from where we was. Just before that there fancy object crashed, I saw some sort of thingy fall from it. I marked down where it done did fall by golly, but by gosh I must'uv dropped that when Bessie done did took off. Sorry 'bout that. You all have a nice day now. 20131121171519|43.20076|-79.81477|160.283|11.020|AttributeChanged - Farmer's Sighting, Visible 20131121171519|43.20076|-79.81477|160.283|11.020|AttributeChanged - Farmer's Sighting, Active 20131121171519|43.20076|-79.81477|160.283|11.020|AttributeChanged - Find Farmers Cow, Active 20131121171519|43.20076|-79.81477|160.283|11.020|AttributeChanged - Find Farmers note, Active 20131121171519|43.20076|-79.81477|160.283|11.020|AttributeChanged - Fisherman, Active 20131121171519|43.20076|-79.81477|160.283|11.020|AttributeChanged - Fisherman, Visible 20131121171519|43.20076|-79.81477|160.283|11.020|AttributeChanged - Interview the Farmer, Complete 20131121171519|43.20076|-79.81477|161.707|11.050|Zone:Distant - Fisherman 20131121171519|43.20076|-79.81477|161.707|11.050|Zone:Distant - Farmer's Sighting 20131121171528|43.20079|-79.81480|170.333|6.518|MessageBox:Callback - [button1] No script to execute 20131121171543|43.20081|-79.81487|169.538|5.646|Zone:Exit - Farmers House 20131121171543|43.20081|-79.81487|169.538|5.646|Zone:Proximity - Farmers House 20131121171555|43.20088|-79.81499|171.866|5.184|Zone:Proximity - Fisherman 20131121171555|43.20088|-79.81499|171.866|5.184|AttributeChanged - Fisherman's Hut, Active 20131121171555|43.20088|-79.81499|171.866|5.184|AttributeChanged - Fisherman's Hut, Visible 20131121171555|43.20088|-79.81499|171.866|5.184|AttributeChanged - Fisherman, Active 20131121171555|43.20088|-79.81499|171.866|5.184|AttributeChanged - Fisherman, Visible 20131121171555|43.20088|-79.81499|171.866|5.184|Zone:Enter - Fisherman's Hut 20131121171603|43.20091|-79.81501|173.278|4.567|ZCommand:exec - Candi:Pickup 20131121171603|43.20091|-79.81501|173.278|4.567|Player:SetInventory - Will add Candi 20131121171603|43.20091|-79.81501|173.278|4.567|Player:SetInventory - added Candi 20131121171603|43.20091|-79.81501|173.278|4.567|ZCommand:Enabled - Disabled Candi Pickup 20131121171608|43.20091|-79.81501|175.008|4.664|ZCommand:exec - Fisherman:Talk 20131121171608|43.20091|-79.81501|175.008|4.664|MessageBox:Show - Hi there. Me and my boy were doing some fishing at the stream and was just heading back. We stopped for some supper, and all of a sudden we heard this horribly loud noise in the sky coming from the east. Well, I’ll tell you, we hightailed it out of there. Just before we took off I saw something break off and crash nearby to where I was. I got the location jotted down, but in my haste I think I left it back where I was having supper. We also left our tackle box behind too. It was over by were Billy was, pretty close to where I was sitting. You don’t suppose you could find that for me could you. I’d really appreciate it. Thanks a lot. 20131121171608|43.20091|-79.81501|175.008|4.664|AttributeChanged - Find Tackle Box, Active 20131121171608|43.20091|-79.81501|175.008|4.664|AttributeChanged - Find Fishermans Note, Active 20131121171608|43.20091|-79.81501|175.008|4.664|AttributeChanged - Trapper, Active 20131121171608|43.20091|-79.81501|175.008|4.664|AttributeChanged - Trapper, Visible 20131121171608|43.20091|-79.81501|175.008|4.664|AttributeChanged - Interview Fisherman, Complete 20131121171608|43.20091|-79.81501|173.215|4.700|Zone:Distant - Trapper 20131121171616|43.20092|-79.81501|177.111|5.072|MessageBox:Callback - [button1] No script to execute 20131121171640|43.20088|-79.81520|175.455|4.647|Zone:Exit - Fisherman's Hut 20131121171640|43.20088|-79.81520|175.455|4.647|Zone:Proximity - Fisherman's Hut 20131121171657|43.20088|-79.81541|176.556|4.212|Zone:Proximity - Trapper 20131121171657|43.20088|-79.81541|176.556|4.212|AttributeChanged - Trapper's Cabin, Active 20131121171657|43.20088|-79.81541|176.556|4.212|AttributeChanged - Trapper's Cabin, Visible 20131121171657|43.20088|-79.81541|176.556|4.212|AttributeChanged - Trapper, Active 20131121171657|43.20088|-79.81541|176.556|4.212|AttributeChanged - Trapper, Visible 20131121171657|43.20088|-79.81541|176.556|4.212|Zone:Enter - Trapper's Cabin 20131121171709|43.20088|-79.81546|179.549|4.646|ZCommand:exec - Candie:Pickup 20131121171709|43.20088|-79.81546|179.549|4.646|Player:SetInventory - Will add Candie 20131121171709|43.20088|-79.81546|179.549|4.646|Player:SetInventory - added Candie 20131121171709|43.20088|-79.81546|179.549|4.646|ZCommand:Enabled - Disabled Candie Pickup As far as the ON Enter function I can't see it in the lua file. I see an On Proximity for the Trapper zone but nothing for the Trappers Hut zone where the problem occurs. I think that is because that zone is activated while the player is in it. I've tried to upload the lua file but the site won't let me. Below are the two functions On Proximity to the Trapper zone and the On Talk to the Trapper if those help. function zoneTrapper:OnProximity() -- #GroupDescription=Script -- -- #Comment=Script Comment -- zoneTrappersCabin.Active = true zoneTrappersCabin.Visible = true zoneTrapper.Active = false zoneTrapper.Visible = false end function zcharacterTrapper:OnTalk() -- #GroupDescription=Script -- -- #Comment=Script Comment -- Wherigo.MessageBox{Text=[[YeeeeeHaw!! I’m crazy Dave the trapper. I’ve seen some weird stuff in my day. Did I ever tell you the time I run across this huge..... Aaaah never mind, you don’t wanna hear about that, do ya. Ok, I was out checking my traps at Bushwacking Point and this loud noise started. I coulda swore it was from the west, but I mighta got myself turned around at the time. I am a little crazy you know. Anyway back to my story. That huge bear came at me.... no wait a sec, that’s the other story. Oh boy. Yah that noise was so loud, I almost got me thumb caught in the trap. Anyways, if I remember right, and I don’t often do, something fell from the sky and landed not too far from where I was. Then I ran from that there bear and climbed a tree. Oh boy, you must think I’m crazy. That’s that other story. Ok, I jotted down where that thing fell, but I musta left it back at Bushwacking Point. If you’re heading that way anyway, do you mind setting my last trap for me? It’s close to where I was, if I remember right. I am a bit crazy you know. Thanks a lot. Oh and beware. There’s rumours that a dragon is in the woods.]],Media=zmediaTrapper,} ztaskFindTrapperNote.Active = true ztaskSetTrap.Active = true ztaskInterviewTrapper.Complete = true end

A question then. Since, in my particular case, everything did go my way, would it be realistic to dismiss my beliefs as strawmen? A few examples: When the Seminole County Natural Lands folks learned about geocaching, they wanted it ended entirely on their properties. Along with a Reviewer and a UCF professor, I sat down with the head dude and we eased their concerns about the hobby, and helped them hammer out a geocaching policy based on facts, not fears. When the Senior Forester of the Little Big Econ State Forest found out about caching, he too wanted it ended. He demanded that all geocaches be removed from their forest, immediately. I sat down with him, and a couple hours later, got his total ban turned into a moratorium against future caches. Then, I spent a couple years getting the moratorium lifted, and a permit process set in place. Now, I act as a volunteer for the Florida Forestry Service, issuing these permits. When Seminole County Parks & Recreation found out about the hobby, they were inquisitive. I was able to convince them that the existing guidelines, enforced by Groundspeak, would protect their interests, and free them from having to deal with a permit system. The local dude in charge of issuing permits for the St. Johns River Water Management District recently expressed concerns that one player was dominating an entire geographic region with, in my opinion, less than stellar hides. I sat down with him and suggested several avenues he could take to avoid this happening again. I haven't heard back yet, if he's opted to implement those changes, but I'm hopeful. When the National Forest Service decided they would impose a fairly steep fee for each cache placed, I researched the rules which were cited in the creation of this fee. Then I started a letter writing campaign all the way up the food chain, demonstrating that the logic trail of the person who cited the rule in question was flawed. The head dude agreed, and now three national forests are open to caching again. All that text was not to blow my own horn. Instead, I wished to demonstrate that I have gotten directly involved, several times, with senior land managers, in a bid to preserve this hobby for future enthusiasts. I not only talk the talk. I also walk the walk. As such, suggesting that I came up with a derogatory motivation for some land managers as a strawman is a bit absurd. Riffster, take a step back. I wasn't calling your observations unfounded. It's just a little tiresome as someone behind the curtain to hear more of the "it's punative and bureucratic" talk. Like I said, in my personal experinence--as well as supported by your examples, it wasn't punitive. It wasn't unnecessarily bureaucratic. People in general like to use that straw man, but you and I see how we can work within the construct of the systems to find common ground and keep land open, open land for use, or develop processes that can protect and maintain the mission-oriented outputs a station wants and needs to have in place. My use of your quote was not intended to call you out more than to add what I said about a third option. That much was "calling you out". And that much was pretty soft, because we agree about this subject. Read it for what I said, and realize that part of it was a response, and the rest of it was a statement put out to the rest of the readers here. You and I are like minded on this subject so far as I can tell...save for the one-of-two options you laid out.

I noticed that too. Requiring the event to last 2 hours implies that HQ feels these are elaborate, special events with a lot going on. This seems to conflict with the 20200 number, which implies the exact opposite (widespread, common events). While officially these events will be listed as being 2 hours or longer, the reality is that many will end up being shorter, especially after cachers have attended a dozen of them already. We'll thus have totally expected conflicts as follows: ...10 CC events are held in an area... The 11th CC event in the area is held, with a listed event length of 2 hours 30 minutes into the event, everyone realizes there really isn't much more to talk about since the CC event last month (and the organizer couldn't think up many activities that haven't already been done at the other 10 events). The attendees gradually leave until only the organizer remains. 1 hour into the event, the organizer gets tired of sitting there doing nothing, so they leave. 1.5 hours into the event, another cacher arrives. Not seeing anyone else there, they log that they attended and leave. The organizer, having not seen the above cacher at the event, deletes what they see as a bogus log. Drama ensues. Sure, that might not happen. I bet it does, though.

Yes. The Character has a "Talk to Tequila" button. However, that message "No script to execute" shows up several times in the log. When the player enters a zone, I move the character to that zone and make the character visible. In this case, the GPS moved out of the zone because I created very small zones. This would cause the zone to become invisible but still active. Here is the entire log. 20090210142836|0.00000|0.00000|0.000|0.000|Engine Version 2.11, Player Name: Lisdowney, Device ID: 3489193304 20090210142836|0.00000|0.00000|0.000|0.000|ZCartridge:Start - Downloaded Mon Feb 9 14:25:33 2009 20090210142836|0.00000|0.00000|0.000|0.000|AttributeChanged - Parking Spot, Active 20090210142837|0.00000|0.00000|0.000|0.000|MessageBox:Show - Welcome to A Walk in the Park.<BR> <BR> This Wherigo cache will take you for a walk around a Markham Park where you will collect information. At each zone you will be asked a question about a landmark at that location. When you input the correct answer, you will be given your next set of instructions. At the end, you will be guided to the actual cache location where you can sign the log book and complete the cartridge by providing a special code contained inside the cache. 20090210142837|43.87948|-79.27620|203.363|5.194|Zone:Enter - Parking Spot 20090210142837|43.87948|-79.27620|203.363|5.194|AttributeChanged - Parking Spot, Visible 20090210142837|43.87948|-79.27620|203.363|5.194|AttributeChanged - Playground, Active 20090210142837|43.87948|-79.27620|203.363|5.194|AttributeChanged - Playground, Visible 20090210142837|43.87948|-79.27620|203.363|5.194|MessageBox:Show - You have arrived at the recommended parking location. You can leave your car here and complete this Wherigo by walking around Raybeck park to your north.<BR> <BR> Proceed to the Playground Area to the north of here. The zone will now be visible to you. Once you arrive there, you will receive further instructions.<BR> <BR> 20090210142837|43.87948|-79.27620|203.363|5.194|MessageBox:Callback - [Cancel] Executing callback script 20090210142837|43.87948|-79.27620|203.363|5.194|Zone:Distant - Playground 20090210142902|43.87949|-79.27620|203.453|5.394|MessageBox:Callback - [button1] No script to execute 20090210143008|43.87961|-79.27637|205.316|4.222|Zone:Exit - Parking Spot 20090210143008|43.87961|-79.27637|205.316|4.222|Zone:Proximity - Parking Spot 20090210143100|43.87999|-79.27652|204.846|4.827|Zone:Proximity - Playground 20090210143116|43.88015|-79.27650|206.368|3.936|Zone:Distant - Parking Spot 20090210143158|43.88052|-79.27640|203.832|2.969|Zone:Enter - Playground 20090210143158|43.88052|-79.27640|203.832|2.969|MessageBox:Show - You have arrived at the Children's Playground. Look at the Jungle Gym and count the number of slides. Talk to Tequila and answer his question correctly to get your next instructions.<BR> <BR> 20090210143221|43.88054|-79.27639|203.212|2.969|MessageBox:Callback - [button1] No script to execute 20090210143250|43.88054|-79.27639|203.212|3.112|ZCommand:exec - Tequila:TalktoTequila 20090210143250|43.88054|-79.27639|203.212|3.112|GetInput - Playground Question 20090210143258|43.88054|-79.27639|203.211|3.156|ZInput:GetInput - Playground Question -> 3 20090210143258|43.88054|-79.27639|203.211|3.156|AttributeChanged - Electric Box, Visible 20090210143258|43.88054|-79.27639|203.211|3.156|AttributeChanged - Electric Box, Active 20090210143258|43.88054|-79.27639|203.211|3.156|MessageBox:Show - That is correct. You may now proceed to the Green Electrical Box to the East. That zone is now visible. Once you arrive there, you will receive your next set of instructions.<BR> 20090210143258|43.88054|-79.27639|203.220|3.162|Zone:Distant - Electric Box 20090210143308|43.88054|-79.27639|203.361|3.190|MessageBox:Callback - [button1] No script to execute 20090210143339|43.88049|-79.27640|200.602|2.500|Zone:Exit - Playground 20090210143339|43.88049|-79.27640|200.602|2.500|AttributeChanged - Playground, Visible 20090210143339|43.88049|-79.27640|200.602|2.500|Zone:Proximity - Playground 20090210143422|43.88012|-79.27626|200.417|2.500|Zone:Proximity - Parking Spot 20090210143442|43.87994|-79.27629|203.628|2.500|Zone:Distant - Playground 20090210143651|43.87984|-79.27536|202.776|2.537|Zone:Distant - Parking Spot 20090210143746|43.88033|-79.27505|201.089|2.500|Zone:Proximity - Electric Box 20090210143829|43.88070|-79.27506|199.863|2.500|Zone:Distant - Electric Box 20090210143848|43.88073|-79.27501|203.232|2.500|Zone:Proximity - Electric Box 20090210143943|43.88047|-79.27429|204.532|2.500|Zone:Enter - Electric Box 20090210143943|43.88047|-79.27429|204.532|2.500|MessageBox:Show - You have arrived at the next zone. There is a large green Electrical Transformer Box located on the curb near your current location. On the side of the Transformer is a tracking ID in the form of 99TP99. Add the two numbers together and talk to Tequila to give him the answer.<BR> <BR> 20090210143948|43.88050|-79.27426|201.056|2.500|MessageBox:Callback - [button1] No script to execute 20090210144000|43.88051|-79.27424|199.636|2.500|ZCommand:exec - Tequila:TalktoTequila 20090210144000|43.88051|-79.27424|199.636|2.500|GetInput - Electrical Box Question 20090210144037|43.88047|-79.27422|201.412|2.500|ZInput:GetInput - Electrical Box Question -> 64 20090210144037|43.88047|-79.27422|201.412|2.500|AttributeChanged - ByLaw Sign, Visible 20090210144037|43.88047|-79.27422|201.412|2.500|AttributeChanged - ByLaw Sign, Active 20090210144037|43.88047|-79.27422|201.412|2.500|MessageBox:Show - That is correct. You may now proceed to the next zone, a Town of Markham By Law Sign north of your current location. That new zone is now visible. Once you arrive there, Tequila will give you further instructions. 20090210144038|43.88047|-79.27422|201.412|2.500|Zone:Distant - ByLaw Sign 20090210144046|43.88047|-79.27422|201.412|2.500|MessageBox:Callback - [button1] No script to execute 20090210144107|43.88056|-79.27422|201.105|2.500|Zone:Exit - Electric Box 20090210144107|43.88056|-79.27422|201.105|2.500|AttributeChanged - Electric Box, Visible 20090210144107|43.88056|-79.27422|201.105|2.500|Zone:Proximity - Electric Box 20090210144159|43.88112|-79.27435|197.463|2.500|Zone:Distant - Electric Box 20090210144255|43.88174|-79.27462|196.294|2.500|Zone:Proximity - ByLaw Sign 20090210144345|43.88229|-79.27480|198.732|2.500|Zone:Enter - ByLaw Sign 20090210144345|43.88229|-79.27480|198.732|2.500|MessageBox:Show - You have arrived at the By Law Sign zone. There is a Town of Markham By Law Sign nearby. On the Dog By Law sign there is a By Law number. The last two digits of the By Law number are the year the by law was enacted. Talk to Tequila and he will want to know that two digit number.<BR> <BR> 20090210144405|43.88229|-79.27478|198.873|2.500|MessageBox:Callback - [button1] No script to execute 20090210144413|43.88229|-79.27478|198.872|2.500|ZCommand:exec - Tequila:TalktoTequila 20090210144413|43.88229|-79.27478|198.872|2.500|GetInput - ByLaw Question 20090210144419|43.88229|-79.27478|198.872|2.500|ZInput:GetInput - ByLaw Question -> 94 20090210144419|43.88229|-79.27478|198.872|2.500|AttributeChanged - Markham Park Sign, Visible 20090210144419|43.88229|-79.27478|198.872|2.500|AttributeChanged - Markham Park Sign, Active 20090210144419|43.88229|-79.27478|198.872|2.500|MessageBox:Show - That is correct. You may now proceed to the Town of Markham Park sign northwest of this location. That zone is now visible. Re-enter the park to go to the sign. 20090210144420|43.88229|-79.27478|198.872|2.500|Zone:Distant - Markham Park Sign 20090210144433|43.88229|-79.27478|198.856|2.500|MessageBox:Callback - [button1] No script to execute 20090210144451|43.88223|-79.27486|198.307|2.500|Zone:Exit - ByLaw Sign 20090210144451|43.88223|-79.27486|198.307|2.500|AttributeChanged - ByLaw Sign, Visible 20090210144451|43.88223|-79.27486|198.307|2.500|Zone:Proximity - ByLaw Sign 20090210144503|43.88225|-79.27493|199.167|2.500|Zone:Proximity - Markham Park Sign 20090210144644|43.88268|-79.27540|198.813|2.500|Zone:Enter - Markham Park Sign 20090210144644|43.88268|-79.27540|198.813|2.500|MessageBox:Show - You have reached the next zone. Nearby is a large Town of Markham Park sign with the name of this park on it. Count the letters in the park name. Do not include the word PARK. Tequila will want to know that number. Talk to him. 20090210144645|43.88265|-79.27539|198.795|2.500|Zone:Exit - Markham Park Sign 20090210144645|43.88265|-79.27539|198.795|2.500|AttributeChanged - Markham Park Sign, Visible 20090210144645|43.88265|-79.27539|198.795|2.500|Zone:Proximity - Markham Park Sign 20090210144700|43.88265|-79.27541|199.219|2.500|MessageBox:Callback - [button1] No script to execute 20090210144900|43.88249|-79.27539|198.913|2.500|ZCartridge:Sync 20090210144901|43.88249|-79.27539|198.913|2.500|ZCartridge:Stop

Actually, yes they do. I was asked by the BLM to Archive 3 of my EC's due to concerns regarding foot traffic to geologically sensitive areas (I was allowed to keep three others in less sensitive areas). These were EC's I had permission to place by the previous Resource Ranger, but was subsequently revoked due to impact concerns. It's there land to manage, so I grudgingly complied (courteously of course). My original point is that the EC Reviewers were merely complying with stated polices that are readily available in links I provided. If you have a problem with the policy, talk with the Land Manager to change it. There's nothing in their public facing document that addresses EC's or Virtual caches, so I can't blame the local and EC Reviewers of taking the default position that regulates physical caches. In other words, I would not presume. But as barefootjeff stated, maybe I'm just misunderstanding the situation.

And here i thought i was the only person on the planet who pretty much only used my phone to, you know,, talk on! I use my phone for all sorts of stuff when I'm at home or work or otherwise close to a charger. When I'm out and about, it's put away and only used when needed. All the other features are nice, but it is, primarily, a phone. Smartphones have been touted as "the end of boredom." On the hand, some say we're losing our creativity by being entertained. (No, that was inane 1950's television that turned our minds to mush. ) However, while sitting waiting for an appointment, if there are no good magazines and no one to talk with, what should we do, practice origami with dollar bills or broaden our knowledge with a smartphone? I just don't use my phone that way very much if I can't plug it in. I may need to call someone or look up something important and the phone is no use to me if it's dead. I know other people use their phones more heavily away from home and allow their children to use them, but that doesn't work for me. i can't remember the last time i needed to make an emergency call, but taught the kids how to do so from a locked phone's lockscreen. no games, but research is allowed sparingly. regular calls are usually handled at home, when it doesn't interrupt our activities/conversations with the kids. getting 8 hours (battery) of screen on time is normal for both of our smartphones, but they rarely see more than two hours a day, caching/hiking included. a quick charger replenishes either phone in two hours or both in about three and a half. pokemon has been great so far. the kids have really enjoyed meeting other people and searching new places along trails. i was surprised how much more fun it was vs looking for another static geocache that was placed solely to be difficult to find, instead of fun. i bet this is a big portion of the reason the apps been downloaded fifty million times since release. fifty million. wow. I'm sure it's a fun game, given how popular it is, but I can't toss out all of the family rules and routines we have around devices just because there's a new game. Just not the right thing for us. We don't use phones for geocaching either, because of ruggedness and battery issues. We each have our own GPS. I'll skip the "but it isn't rugged!" since that was fixed about for years ago, but how is playing pg against family rules and routines, but caching is OK?

And here i thought i was the only person on the planet who pretty much only used my phone to, you know,, talk on! I use my phone for all sorts of stuff when I'm at home or work or otherwise close to a charger. When I'm out and about, it's put away and only used when needed. All the other features are nice, but it is, primarily, a phone. Smartphones have been touted as "the end of boredom." On the hand, some say we're losing our creativity by being entertained. (No, that was inane 1950's television that turned our minds to mush. ) However, while sitting waiting for an appointment, if there are no good magazines and no one to talk with, what should we do, practice origami with dollar bills or broaden our knowledge with a smartphone? I just don't use my phone that way very much if I can't plug it in. I may need to call someone or look up something important and the phone is no use to me if it's dead. I know other people use their phones more heavily away from home and allow their children to use them, but that doesn't work for me. i can't remember the last time i needed to make an emergency call, but taught the kids how to do so from a locked phone's lockscreen. no games, but research is allowed sparingly. regular calls are usually handled at home, when it doesn't interrupt our activities/conversations with the kids. getting 8 hours (battery) of screen on time is normal for both of our smartphones, but they rarely see more than two hours a day, caching/hiking included. a quick charger replenishes either phone in two hours or both in about three and a half. pokemon has been great so far. the kids have really enjoyed meeting other people and searching new places along trails. i was surprised how much more fun it was vs looking for another static geocache that was placed solely to be difficult to find, instead of fun. i bet this is a big portion of the reason the apps been downloaded fifty million times since release. fifty million. wow. I'm sure it's a fun game, given how popular it is, but I can't toss out all of the family rules and routines we have around devices just because there's a new game. Just not the right thing for us. We don't use phones for geocaching either, because of ruggedness and battery issues. We each have our own GPS.

And here i thought i was the only person on the planet who pretty much only used my phone to, you know,, talk on! I use my phone for all sorts of stuff when I'm at home or work or otherwise close to a charger. When I'm out and about, it's put away and only used when needed. All the other features are nice, but it is, primarily, a phone. Smartphones have been touted as "the end of boredom." On the hand, some say we're losing our creativity by being entertained. (No, that was inane 1950's television that turned our minds to mush. ) However, while sitting waiting for an appointment, if there are no good magazines and no one to talk with, what should we do, practice origami with dollar bills or broaden our knowledge with a smartphone? I just don't use my phone that way very much if I can't plug it in. I may need to call someone or look up something important and the phone is no use to me if it's dead. I know other people use their phones more heavily away from home and allow their children to use them, but that doesn't work for me. i can't remember the last time i needed to make an emergency call, but taught the kids how to do so from a locked phone's lockscreen. no games, but research is allowed sparingly. regular calls are usually handled at home, when it doesn't interrupt our activities/conversations with the kids. getting 8 hours (battery) of screen on time is normal for both of our smartphones, but they rarely see more than two hours a day, caching/hiking included. a quick charger replenishes either phone in two hours or both in about three and a half. pokemon has been great so far. the kids have really enjoyed meeting other people and searching new places along trails. i was surprised how much more fun it was vs looking for another static geocache that was placed solely to be difficult to find, instead of fun. i bet this is a big portion of the reason the apps been downloaded fifty million times since release. fifty million. wow.

And here i thought i was the only person on the planet who pretty much only used my phone to, you know,, talk on! I use my phone for all sorts of stuff when I'm at home or work or otherwise close to a charger. When I'm out and about, it's put away and only used when needed. All the other features are nice, but it is, primarily, a phone. Smartphones have been touted as "the end of boredom." On the hand, some say we're losing our creativity by being entertained. (No, that was inane 1950's television that turned our minds to mush. ) However, while sitting waiting for an appointment, if there are no good magazines and no one to talk with, what should we do, practice origami with dollar bills or broaden our knowledge with a smartphone? I just don't use my phone that way very much if I can't plug it in. I may need to call someone or look up something important and the phone is no use to me if it's dead. I know other people use their phones more heavily away from home and allow their children to use them, but that doesn't work for me. I try to not leave the house without my portable charger in tow (the thing is a beast but I can get 4-5 full charges for my phone off of it). I don't have my nose constantly buried in my phones screen when I'm out but some apps, especially Pokemon Go, are real battery drains. Even more so if it's a sunny day and you have to turn the screen brightness way up. If you only use your phone sparingly, a small lipstick sized charger is great for emergency uses and peace of mind. I had one and the one time I wanted to use it, it was out of charge. Not a useful option for me, but I can see how they are useful for people who play phone games or use their devices more heavily than I do. I just can't relenquish my phone to a child for the purpose of playing a game. It's my phone.

And here i thought i was the only person on the planet who pretty much only used my phone to, you know,, talk on! I use my phone for all sorts of stuff when I'm at home or work or otherwise close to a charger. When I'm out and about, it's put away and only used when needed. All the other features are nice, but it is, primarily, a phone. Smartphones have been touted as "the end of boredom." On the hand, some say we're losing our creativity by being entertained. (No, that was inane 1950's television that turned our minds to mush. ) However, while sitting waiting for an appointment, if there are no good magazines and no one to talk with, what should we do, practice origami with dollar bills or broaden our knowledge with a smartphone? I just don't use my phone that way very much if I can't plug it in. I may need to call someone or look up something important and the phone is no use to me if it's dead. I know other people use their phones more heavily away from home and allow their children to use them, but that doesn't work for me. I try to not leave the house without my portable charger in tow (the thing is a beast but I can get 4-5 full charges for my phone off of it). I don't have my nose constantly buried in my phones screen when I'm out but some apps, especially Pokemon Go, are real battery drains. Even more so if it's a sunny day and you have to turn the screen brightness way up. If you only use your phone sparingly, a small lipstick sized charger is great for emergency uses and peace of mind.

And here i thought i was the only person on the planet who pretty much only used my phone to, you know,, talk on! I use my phone for all sorts of stuff when I'm at home or work or otherwise close to a charger. When I'm out and about, it's put away and only used when needed. All the other features are nice, but it is, primarily, a phone. Smartphones have been touted as "the end of boredom." On the hand, some say we're losing our creativity by being entertained. (No, that was inane 1950's television that turned our minds to mush. ) However, while sitting waiting for an appointment, if there are no good magazines and no one to talk with, what should we do, practice origami with dollar bills or broaden our knowledge with a smartphone? I just don't use my phone that way very much if I can't plug it in. I may need to call someone or look up something important and the phone is no use to me if it's dead. I know other people use their phones more heavily away from home and allow their children to use them, but that doesn't work for me.