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I'm with BKDotCom. I use the "Information [?] symbol. I hadn't thought about using two different symbols for "un-found" and "found". But, I think that is a good idea. Maybe we could talk the manufactures into a software/firmware upgrade that would meet our needs. Anyone know any product planning managers at Garmin, Magellen, etc.?

Kimbo, I'll be glad to help. I often go cache hunting with the kids and Jen. And the 2 caches I've placed so far are within 300 feet from a parking area :-). Email me if you wanna talk about it. Jose

Kimbo, I'll be glad to help. I often go cache hunting with the kids and Jen. And the 2 caches I've placed so far are within 300 feet from a parking area :-). Email me if you wanna talk about it. Jose

Ok, so now that the Etrex and Palm can talk, what software is available to make use of this? ------------------ Peter Scholtz www.biometrics.co.za

I just want to say I had a blast and really enjoyed the picnic day. I'm glad the weather held and most of all, it was fun meeting all of you. I hope to post a lunch cache in the future, so I (sans kids) can talk more about cool caches that I'm working on and other silly topics. Glad I could help, hope you all had fun, and we'll definitely do it bigger and better next year! What ideas would you like to see next year? What would you like to contribute to next year's annual picnic? [This message has been edited by bigkid (edited 21 July 2001).]

I bet I could talk some Atlanta people into driving up to join you!

I've told people about GPS systems, which is a little redundant. Doesn't really matter, most of the people I talk to have no idea even when I say the long name - and I still have to explain what it is and what it does.

I got my first e-mail account and used PICO and PICOPINE as the e-mail editing program; and I used a text based web browser (Lynx). This was back in late 1992-93 when colleges were starting to get people into the concept of looking things up on the net. The idea was so new, there wasn't a way to cite information gathered on the 'net for research papers. I had a fondness for fooling around on GOPHER, and I actually enjoyed playing chess on the Internet Relay Chess server... I made many great friends, none of which I still talk to...Oh well, C'est la vie...

i cant get this app to talk to my etrex basic (though it works for many other apps), anyone have the same problem? ------------------ JoshGray eTrex Basic http://joshgray.myip.org

i cant get this app to talk to my etrex basic (though it works for many other apps), anyone have the same problem? ------------------ JoshGray eTrex Basic http://joshgray.myip.org

Easy GPS allows you to easily enter one or MANY cache sites into your GPS unit if your GPS can "talk" to a PC. Go to your favorite cache page and you will notice the "Need help? Read about EasyGPS" link that will take you here: http://www.geocaching.com/waypoints/help.asp That should explain most of what you need to know. The way I use it? This morning I downloaded 100 Southern California cache sites into my new 2nd GPS unit. How long would that take you to enter 100 waypoints by hand?! How accurate would they be when you were done? I fat-fingered the coordinates of my 2nd cache and spent too long spinning my wheels before I double checked my data entry. EasyGPS ensures I make no more data entry errors and the comments are also imported into my GPS unit, bonus! It is also a great tool for me to manage and shuffle waypoints back and forth between my III+ and my Legend. -Brian (so it was waaaaay more than 25 words) ------------------ Brian & Terry San Diego, CA

LOL with all the talk about "Smiley Face" I went back and add'd a "Caution, Dangerous Cache" note to all my caches in Crystal Basin. I would hate to see someone get to one of them and then have to be rescued because they could not find a way down, or get half way up and not be able to go up or down .......

i told u to put me on your buddy list and we can talk. i emailed u and told u where it is at.u put your self in danger cause u didn`t use your head not me ty apollo

I'm trying to get some publicity. I've contacted a number of web sites, magazines and some tv programs. I know we should be expecting something on the Mail & Guardian's PC-Review and IT-Web some time. Some magazines and tv programs have shown interest. I've arranged for a radio interview a few months ago in Cape Talk Radio. Been distributing flyers to a couple of out door shops. Taken a few friends on cache hunts and seeks. As soon as we get some media exposure things will start to happen. I'd say by December we should have an active community ... ------------------ Peter Scholtz www.biometrics.co.za

Could all of you SE Queensland Cache's chuck your emails and ICQ numbers here it weould be good to get to talk to some of you one on one and get some information. ICQ - 45447650 MSN Email - gordon_mcgregor@hotmail.com Cheers ------------------ The Random Acts of Idiocy

Actually I've talked to one person in Parks and Rec, and they are fairly supportive of geocaching. Check out Charlotte Orinteering Klubb. http://www.carolina-ok.org/ They have events I am assuming that are close to ours where you might have to go off trail on occasions. Talk to the park rangers and see if there is an appropriate place to hide a cache (under a bridge, the deck of the nature center, etc). Else, there will either be illegal caches in Latta, or none at all...

I actually heard about Geocaching from "Cool Site of the Day" from it's January 8, 2001 award to this site. I was really intrigued by the idea, but it wasn't until my birthday in March that I could convince my wife to let me buy the GPS I wanted. Soon after, when I got my big doofus out of the La-z-boy and started taking my 5yo hiking, my wife started condoning our cache trips, and even encouraging them. Reasons to enjoy it for me: Exercise - I wasn't getting enough, and probably still am not getting enough. But I'm getting more now than I was. Hiking - I know, it sounds like "Exercise" but not really. I've always enjoyed walking in the woods or in nature areas, but B.G. (Before Geocaching) never had a good excuse or the time. True, my lawn is getting tall, but I'm really having fun. Toys - Cool hobby with a really neat gadget. I also get to play justified hours on the computer at night - with no complaints from the Mrs. about duration. Bonding with the Boy - My kid's got mild ADHD, and this sport is FABULOUS for him. Goal oriented, interesting and keeps him on target. It's a great experience for him, and helps him learn to focus. I'm also having a great time doing this with him. Spending Time with the Rest of the Fam - After a cache hunt in Tennessee, my wife got hooked. We've now extended our caches to include the Mrs. and a 20 month old "root toucher" (every root that crosses the trail must be touched and explained "roo?" Yes, Sam, that's a root.) Anytime, Anywhere - We've always loved to travel to distant parts of the country for our vacations, but have worried about taking the two boys just to enjoy the beauty. Now we also have something fun to do while we're at these distant spots, and that makes the trip worth it for everyone. The People that I meet - having talked with many of these people in the forums, having run across the same names logging the area caches, and even having our first gathering this Saturday, I've found that Geocachers are the nicest group of people you could ask for. In what other activity could you have 3000 containers, and maybe close to 1000 registered users, all using the honor system - effectively!?! Admittedly, this next one is low on my list, but the self-esteem portion is neat: I'm trendy - Having always been the nerdy geek in HS and College, it's neat to talk about my hobby for a couple of weeks, and then have my co-workes come up and say, "Hey, I saw something that Peter Jennings did last night on Geocaching. Isn't that what you've been doing?" This isn't why I got into Geocaching, nor why I continue to do it. It's just a nice perk.

I actually heard about Geocaching from "Cool Site of the Day" from it's January 8, 2001 award to this site. I was really intrigued by the idea, but it wasn't until my birthday in March that I could convince my wife to let me buy the GPS I wanted. Soon after, when I got my big doofus out of the La-z-boy and started taking my 5yo hiking, my wife started condoning our cache trips, and even encouraging them. Reasons to enjoy it for me: Exercise - I wasn't getting enough, and probably still am not getting enough. But I'm getting more now than I was. Hiking - I know, it sounds like "Exercise" but not really. I've always enjoyed walking in the woods or in nature areas, but B.G. (Before Geocaching) never had a good excuse or the time. True, my lawn is getting tall, but I'm really having fun. Toys - Cool hobby with a really neat gadget. I also get to play justified hours on the computer at night - with no complaints from the Mrs. about duration. Bonding with the Boy - My kid's got mild ADHD, and this sport is FABULOUS for him. Goal oriented, interesting and keeps him on target. It's a great experience for him, and helps him learn to focus. I'm also having a great time doing this with him. Spending Time with the Rest of the Fam - After a cache hunt in Tennessee, my wife got hooked. We've now extended our caches to include the Mrs. and a 20 month old "root toucher" (every root that crosses the trail must be touched and explained "roo?" Yes, Sam, that's a root.) Anytime, Anywhere - We've always loved to travel to distant parts of the country for our vacations, but have worried about taking the two boys just to enjoy the beauty. Now we also have something fun to do while we're at these distant spots, and that makes the trip worth it for everyone. The People that I meet - having talked with many of these people in the forums, having run across the same names logging the area caches, and even having our first gathering this Saturday, I've found that Geocachers are the nicest group of people you could ask for. In what other activity could you have 3000 containers, and maybe close to 1000 registered users, all using the honor system - effectively!?! Admittedly, this next one is low on my list, but the self-esteem portion is neat: I'm trendy - Having always been the nerdy geek in HS and College, it's neat to talk about my hobby for a couple of weeks, and then have my co-workes come up and say, "Hey, I saw something that Peter Jennings did last night on Geocaching. Isn't that what you've been doing?" This isn't why I got into Geocaching, nor why I continue to do it. It's just a nice perk.

HR> I agree with you on this when you talk about Terrain rating. If my part of Michigan had a place to put a cache with a 5 star terrain rating (and if I was actually able to get there) I would not make it extremly hard to find once at the location. It would be fun to combine the two and have a multi-part cache with a very hard puzzle to deduce the location that you would be rafting to. You would solve the puzzle in relativly easy terrain and then head downriver when you were sure you had it. That could be a 5/5 and still meet the criteria of being able to actually find it once you got there. Rusty...

Hey ... does anyone have an extra $20,000,000 laying around ... we can get together with the Russians and put a Geocache on the space station! Talk about weird sat. geometry!?!?!?!

It's a coming, As soon as I get the right road to start and can talk Red into going. But first, Early Elk hunt takes priority.

Greetings, Let's talk about electronic compasses and altimeter/barometers. I use a Suunto Vector wristwatch that has a stopwatch, compass and altimeter/barometer. It's built well, and I like it a lot. The Vector is a bit on the bulky side, but not really a problem. At least it's not as big as that silly wristwatch GPS receiver. Now that's what I call a really big watch! I know the Garmin eTrex Vista GPS has a compass and an altimeter/barometer, and there are several non-GPS electronic compasses and altimeters on the market. If you have one of them, let's hear from you. I'd like to hear some opinions and reviews. Anton ------------------ Anton Ninno - N2RUD Syracuse, NY 13210

Just what can I do with the little port on the garmin 12? hook it up to a car adapter, ok I got that one, hook it up to a computer? and do what? there's no graphing software or interface that I can edit points and upload them. What does the pc interface do? Can I talk to other machines?

hmmm...I have to try and remember how that works. A reporter once told me that anything placed for public view is public domain. But I think I am saying this wrong. But I'll do one better and talk to Dan and get official permission for use on the website. This way all bases are covered and everyone will be happy ------------------ Quinn Stone Rochester, NY.14616 www.Navicache.com

hmmm...I have to try and remember how that works. A reporter once told me that anything placed for public view is public domain. But I think I am saying this wrong. But I'll do one better and talk to Dan and get official permission for use on the website. This way all bases are covered and everyone will be happy ------------------ Quinn Stone Rochester, NY.14616 www.Navicache.com