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  1. Guest

    Why geocaching?

    I actually heard about Geocaching from "Cool Site of the Day" from it's January 8, 2001 award to this site. I was really intrigued by the idea, but it wasn't until my birthday in March that I could convince my wife to let me buy the GPS I wanted. Soon after, when I got my big doofus out of the La-z-boy and started taking my 5yo hiking, my wife started condoning our cache trips, and even encouraging them. Reasons to enjoy it for me: Exercise - I wasn't getting enough, and probably still am not getting enough. But I'm getting more now than I was. Hiking - I know, it sounds like "Exercise" but not really. I've always enjoyed walking in the woods or in nature areas, but B.G. (Before Geocaching) never had a good excuse or the time. True, my lawn is getting tall, but I'm really having fun. Toys - Cool hobby with a really neat gadget. I also get to play justified hours on the computer at night - with no complaints from the Mrs. about duration. Bonding with the Boy - My kid's got mild ADHD, and this sport is FABULOUS for him. Goal oriented, interesting and keeps him on target. It's a great experience for him, and helps him learn to focus. I'm also having a great time doing this with him. Spending Time with the Rest of the Fam - After a cache hunt in Tennessee, my wife got hooked. We've now extended our caches to include the Mrs. and a 20 month old "root toucher" (every root that crosses the trail must be touched and explained "roo?" Yes, Sam, that's a root.) Anytime, Anywhere - We've always loved to travel to distant parts of the country for our vacations, but have worried about taking the two boys just to enjoy the beauty. Now we also have something fun to do while we're at these distant spots, and that makes the trip worth it for everyone. The People that I meet - having talked with many of these people in the forums, having run across the same names logging the area caches, and even having our first gathering this Saturday, I've found that Geocachers are the nicest group of people you could ask for. In what other activity could you have 3000 containers, and maybe close to 1000 registered users, all using the honor system - effectively!?! Admittedly, this next one is low on my list, but the self-esteem portion is neat: I'm trendy - Having always been the nerdy geek in HS and College, it's neat to talk about my hobby for a couple of weeks, and then have my co-workes come up and say, "Hey, I saw something that Peter Jennings did last night on Geocaching. Isn't that what you've been doing?" This isn't why I got into Geocaching, nor why I continue to do it. It's just a nice perk.
  2. Guest

    Ethical Dilemma

    HR> I agree with you on this when you talk about Terrain rating. If my part of Michigan had a place to put a cache with a 5 star terrain rating (and if I was actually able to get there) I would not make it extremly hard to find once at the location. It would be fun to combine the two and have a multi-part cache with a very hard puzzle to deduce the location that you would be rafting to. You would solve the puzzle in relativly easy terrain and then head downriver when you were sure you had it. That could be a 5/5 and still meet the criteria of being able to actually find it once you got there. Rusty...
  3. Hey ... does anyone have an extra $20,000,000 laying around ... we can get together with the Russians and put a Geocache on the space station! Talk about weird sat. geometry!?!?!?!
  4. Guest

    Degree Confluence Project

    It's a coming, As soon as I get the right road to start and can talk Red into going. But first, Early Elk hunt takes priority.
  5. Guest

    Electronic Compasses & Altimeters

    Greetings, Let's talk about electronic compasses and altimeter/barometers. I use a Suunto Vector wristwatch that has a stopwatch, compass and altimeter/barometer. It's built well, and I like it a lot. The Vector is a bit on the bulky side, but not really a problem. At least it's not as big as that silly wristwatch GPS receiver. Now that's what I call a really big watch! I know the Garmin eTrex Vista GPS has a compass and an altimeter/barometer, and there are several non-GPS electronic compasses and altimeters on the market. If you have one of them, let's hear from you. I'd like to hear some opinions and reviews. Anton ------------------ Anton Ninno - N2RUD Syracuse, NY 13210
  6. Guest

    Garmin 12 output port

    Just what can I do with the little port on the garmin 12? hook it up to a car adapter, ok I got that one, hook it up to a computer? and do what? there's no graphing software or interface that I can edit points and upload them. What does the pc interface do? Can I talk to other machines?
  7. Guest

    ABC News

    hmmm...I have to try and remember how that works. A reporter once told me that anything placed for public view is public domain. But I think I am saying this wrong. But I'll do one better and talk to Dan and get official permission for use on the website. This way all bases are covered and everyone will be happy ------------------ Quinn Stone Rochester, NY.14616 www.Navicache.com
  8. Guest

    ABC News

    hmmm...I have to try and remember how that works. A reporter once told me that anything placed for public view is public domain. But I think I am saying this wrong. But I'll do one better and talk to Dan and get official permission for use on the website. This way all bases are covered and everyone will be happy ------------------ Quinn Stone Rochester, NY.14616 www.Navicache.com
  9. Guest

    ABC News

    iving away a Etrex that was Given to me by Kim of advancedgps.com , I could have kept it or raffled it off. But I love the sport and I like the people who I meet as a result of it, thus I wanted to give it to someone who liked Geocaching as much as I, thus the drawing tab on my site. Navitee's... you must know the HUGE profit in the tee-shirt business, and also seeing as I do not buy them bulk but just sell them so people can have a geocaching Item with a logo. I make .50 on each shirt. this should get me a vette in no time This is a hobby to me and nothing more. I geocache every free moment I get ( and some moments I shouldn't while working ) I have always spoken my mind about geocaching.com and Jeremy Irish as well, Geocaching.com I have always thought to be a great site (wouldn't come here as often if I didn't) Jeremy however I didn't like much due to what I would have considered to be outcasting anyone who had a opinion of their own. Did I assume this?... maybe, was I wrong?... Maybe. But I am willing to dump this all in the past and go from here. I have had so many contacts about doing news stories (local and not so local)and each time I do one I always place mention of Geocaching.com and the great site that it is. heck!...I have a full tape of other news clips I did based on this. You even have a newspaper link from a story I did here doing nothing but praising your site. So, I wish to drop this junk talk and maybe start playing the game more as well as help the new kids. If there is something of bother please feel free to contact me and I would be more than happy to work it out. right now I have much to do as far as working out bugs on my site and move towards a face lift for it as well. Jeremy I thank you for your comments and wish you all the best. ------------------ Quinn Stone Rochester, NY.14616 www.Navicache.com
  10. Guest

    ABC News

    iving away a Etrex that was Given to me by Kim of advancedgps.com , I could have kept it or raffled it off. But I love the sport and I like the people who I meet as a result of it, thus I wanted to give it to someone who liked Geocaching as much as I, thus the drawing tab on my site. Navitee's... you must know the HUGE profit in the tee-shirt business, and also seeing as I do not buy them bulk but just sell them so people can have a geocaching Item with a logo. I make .50 on each shirt. this should get me a vette in no time This is a hobby to me and nothing more. I geocache every free moment I get ( and some moments I shouldn't while working ) I have always spoken my mind about geocaching.com and Jeremy Irish as well, Geocaching.com I have always thought to be a great site (wouldn't come here as often if I didn't) Jeremy however I didn't like much due to what I would have considered to be outcasting anyone who had a opinion of their own. Did I assume this?... maybe, was I wrong?... Maybe. But I am willing to dump this all in the past and go from here. I have had so many contacts about doing news stories (local and not so local)and each time I do one I always place mention of Geocaching.com and the great site that it is. heck!...I have a full tape of other news clips I did based on this. You even have a newspaper link from a story I did here doing nothing but praising your site. So, I wish to drop this junk talk and maybe start playing the game more as well as help the new kids. If there is something of bother please feel free to contact me and I would be more than happy to work it out. right now I have much to do as far as working out bugs on my site and move towards a face lift for it as well. Jeremy I thank you for your comments and wish you all the best. ------------------ Quinn Stone Rochester, NY.14616 www.Navicache.com
  11. Guest

    ABC News

    Heh. There was one article where I was misquoted and ended up demeaning mountain bikers. I got a lot of hate email from that one (It was in Colorado. Never talk negative about mountain biking there). I also have a dry humor so I have to be careful cracking jokes to a reporter. One time I was joking and saying that geeks and gun toting libertarians can play this game side by side. It's amazing what someone can do to that comment. I just saw the piece and it was very well done (and you do have a cute daughter, Quinnow.) Jeremy
  12. Guest

    GeoHitchikers

    quote:Originally posted by kbraband: I wish you could pick him up. As far as I know he's still at Ic Age Vista waiting for a lift. That's a beautiful cache hike, by the way. You'd really like it. (hint, hint) Unfortunately, next four weekends are booked, Caching with a virgin, Chicago area Geocaching picnic 7/14 (Isn't that nice how I worked in a plug ) Tennessee Caching after that. So, I won't make it up to Ice Age until well after 8/1/01. If Stinky stays around that far, I'll see if I can talk the wife into that long of a jaunt. My Scooby and Shaggy are doing so well that I think the Chicagoans are LOVING hitchhikers. Another in the fray wouldn't be bad...
  13. Guest

    GeoHitchikers

    quote:Originally posted by kbraband: I wish you could pick him up. As far as I know he's still at Ic Age Vista waiting for a lift. That's a beautiful cache hike, by the way. You'd really like it. (hint, hint) Unfortunately, next four weekends are booked, Caching with a virgin, Chicago area Geocaching picnic 7/14 (Isn't that nice how I worked in a plug ) Tennessee Caching after that. So, I won't make it up to Ice Age until well after 8/1/01. If Stinky stays around that far, I'll see if I can talk the wife into that long of a jaunt. My Scooby and Shaggy are doing so well that I think the Chicagoans are LOVING hitchhikers. Another in the fray wouldn't be bad...
  14. Guest

    Stats Shorthand

    I like the (H)idden and (F)ound idea, but think the ©ountries and (S)tates to be overkill. (X) Other Geocachers encountered is interesting. (At first I read Countries as Counties! Talk about silly!) Anyway, each category is optional, so each to his own! Kimbo 5H/13F
  15. Guest

    GeoHitchikers

    Ken - think you could move Stinky a little farther south? I'm headed up to Rockford today, and tried to talk my wife into the added miles... Sometime I'll tell you about my non-Geocaching hitch-hiker, Stinky the Skunk.
  16. Guest

    GeoHitchikers

    Ken - think you could move Stinky a little farther south? I'm headed up to Rockford today, and tried to talk my wife into the added miles... Sometime I'll tell you about my non-Geocaching hitch-hiker, Stinky the Skunk.
  17. Clayjar: I agree for the most part with what you wrote. As I noted before I do think that a license is a Good Thing. I hope you and others believe that. I do not think that the restictive aspects of the license are required at all to disindemnify GROUNDED from any liability. As has been proved in court time and again, the extent of liability for the body operating a server that serves data for a public forum is the requirement to remove any data a party with legal rights to ask requests. Wow, did that make sense? Basically they are NOT liable for data copied off the site. And it's even debatable whether they are liable for data they continue to publish. It's just easier to remove the requested data and be done with that aspect. In fact. from a legal liability standpoint claiming copyright on the published data increases the legal liability. Entity foo can republish the data, and let GROUNDED be a front to any legal action. The only thing foo would liable for is a copyright violation. So from your example: Bob's Big Fat Open Spaces, Inc. can't sue foo, but CAN sue GROUNDED even after GROUNDED removes the data from geocaching.com. A nice legal position for foo to be in. ;-( Now I would like to see a license that allows Evil S. Aden and anyone else that wishes to grab and republish the data but makes it clear that any legal action taken against them cannot be redirected to GROUNDED. So, while I believe that Jeremy and GROUNDED have the right intentions (except for not allowing republication) I do not believe that the license has helped the indemnification, but rather hurt it. As Jeremy and I do not agree on the republishing issue and he does not seem to be willing to discuss it, I guess I will look for others that do share that belief and assist there. I am interested in discussing any issues related to this, but I am not interested in participating in a flame war. If you disagree with me, fine. You have that right. If you would be interested in working towards a better solution for those involved, then talk on! ;-) [This message has been edited by TimRiker (edited 02 July 2001).]
  18. quote:Originally posted by bunkerdave:Is that where you and me find a cache at the same time and sit there and talk about caching for an hour? Mmm, now that's actually a good idea! With my Palm and Nokia I can run all my typical internet applications including IRC. 9600 bps mind you. But it works fine. So how about a Geocaching.com IRC server for "when you find it" chats! ------------------ Peter Scholtz www.biometrics.co.za
  19. quote:Originally posted by bunkerdave:Is that where you and me find a cache at the same time and sit there and talk about caching for an hour? Mmm, now that's actually a good idea! With my Palm and Nokia I can run all my typical internet applications including IRC. 9600 bps mind you. But it works fine. So how about a Geocaching.com IRC server for "when you find it" chats! ------------------ Peter Scholtz www.biometrics.co.za
  20. Is that where you and me find a cache at the same time and sit there and talk about caching for an hour?
  21. Is that where you and me find a cache at the same time and sit there and talk about caching for an hour?
  22. Guest

    Geocaching Trading Cards

    Darn good idea!!! I don't have much room to talk (being that I have just started today), but I've even talked a few friends into a geocaching day trip. I hope to find a card in my first find!! Anyone can say they got a trinket from a cache, but cards have bragging rights. If you're a serious outdoorsy-type...they'll catch on big!!! ------------------ Squeak
  23. Guest

    DEAD BEATS

    Thanks for the response, it does make me feel better knowing there hasn't been much of a problem getting permission. Still, I'd like to have a few more details. How did you find out who to contact? Did you mail a letter, or talk to them on the phone. Did you have to tell them exactly where the site was and what you were exactly going to place, or were you more general? Thanks for the help.
  24. Guest

    DEAD BEATS

    Rin, Red tape and talk aside ...lots of people place caches. I've placed 8. No one has ever had a problem with one of mine. The only group of folk who do have a persistant problem with it are the national forest people, and that is just with a smattering of caches. Bottom line... if you know of a nice place that has special meaning for you or is a "good place for a cache" ...put one there! It'd be one thing if we were advocating you dump a bag of trash or spray paint a swastika somewhere. Instead all we're really talking about is a self-contained tupperware or ammo box, some trinkets and 1 to 30 geocachers visiting the spot over the next 3 months. So no worries, ok?
  25. BTW: I drive from Provo to Ogden every day. I'd love to know which of those Billboards you find offensive "I get gas at Guad's" Just kidding, I think that one is hilarious. The one that bugs me is the ad. for Khaki pants that says, save $999,950. Like I would spend $50 on Khaki pants. I think that placing political or religious materials into a cache is definately in bad taste and I wouldn't do it myself. Ultimately, it comes down to a question of law as to whether a line should be drawn in the sand. Jeremy has said he doesn't want sexually explicit caches or caches with tobacco or alcohol in them. This is because the law places an age limit on the purchase and possession of these things. Although he probably would agree that religious or political materials in caches is in poor taste I doubt we'll ever see an edict coming from him concerning the matter because it is a matter of propriety and not law. Also I may live in Utah, but I was raised in California. This is the danger in generalizing a whole state's populace, they don't always fit in. I definately consider myself in touch with the "real world" Maybe we can all talk about it at the get-together next month, I would enjoy that. -Cobalt [This message has been edited by Cobalt (edited 25 June 2001).]
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