DonB

Also keep in mind if it's in a place where it could be dropped over the bridge by a clumsy cacher it may have a 130 foot change in location.

I forgot about the 500-1000 limit, most of my PQs are well under 500.

You have been a member since Oct of 2008 and have done 264 caches, the average GPS will hold 1000 caches, so why would you need to download every cache in the city? If you could download that many caches by the time you would get around to doing them all your list would be outdated and to make sure you weren't looking for archived caches you would have to download a new PQ every few days anyway. I keep bookmark lists and depending on where I'm going to cache that day I have maybe 20 or 30 caches loaded and usually never do all of them that day.

I haven't requested a PQ recently but unless something changed if I had less then 1000 caches in the PQ it was emailed to me.

Haven't tried it myself but check out this website. http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/htmlastext.html

The Permethrin infused clothing works for me, I have two caching outfits I keep dosed up.

There were two or three of them in my area at one time. Two of them were 52 quart buckets. One was by the front porch and one was along side of the house. Both had notes to please not come after dark.

But over priced.

Taking the above suggestion one step further I can't see why it would hurt anything to not count the stages in a multi cache other then the posted coordinates and the coordinates for the final cache. There was a cache in a local park that is quite large that had six stages plus the posted coordinates and the final cache. I did this one and it tied up half of the park. You can find a dozen places to hide a micro but the way the rules are now it makes it much harder to find a spot to hide something the size of an ammo can.

As long as the subject has been brought up, I would like to put a cache in a local park that has a multi-cache with three stages and a three star terrain rating. The park does have several steep hills and I have a bad knee so I don't think I want to go looking for it. It would be a real pain to put mine out and then end up having to go back and move it three or four times. I thought about picking two or three spots and emailing the coordinates to the reviewer, hoping they would give me the info I need. How do some of you guys handle it?

In Wisconsin just about all of the cemetery caches names start with WSQ and I thought Indiana's mostly started the name with ISQ. I don't know if there are other states that do it, but it does make the caches searchable.

Please explain how either is easier to check than a sig on a log? I can tell you how with virtuals. There is always something at the virtual that couldn't be found by going online that the CO can ask a question about. I did one in either Nebraska or Kansas, it's been so long I don't remember every detail, but it was the grave of a local person that invented something or other and you had to get some details off his headstone and then as a kicker you had to get some info off a headstone next to his that was just an average person. It would be pretty hard to get that info unless you had been there. There was another one in a park in Spokane, WA that was a huge replica of a little red wagon that had steps up one end and a kids slide down the other end. The question was, how many steps were there. maybe nowadays with the improved satellite views you could cheat on that one, but not back then. Plus that you have to email the info to the CO so you know they actually read it and OK your info. And how many COs, if they will admit it, of regular caches actually read the log sheet and compare it to the online log? C'mon, you've been around long enough to know that's not true... A good half of the virtuals we've done could have been accomplished at home. We only had two COs who responded that we had the correct info. So they may well read it, but that's just an assumption. What part of my post didn't you understand? I said and will stand by my statement that there is always something you could ask about a virtual that couldn't be found online. If you could have done half of your virtuals at home it's because the CO didn't put some thought into the cache and ask the right question.

Please explain how either is easier to check than a sig on a log? I can tell you how with virtuals. There is always something at the virtual that couldn't be found by going online that the CO can ask a question about. I did one in either Nebraska or Kansas, it's been so long I don't remember every detail, but it was the grave of a local person that invented something or other and you had to get some details off his headstone and then as a kicker you had to get some info off a headstone next to his that was just an average person. It would be pretty hard to get that info unless you had been there. There was another one in a park in Spokane, WA that was a huge replica of a little red wagon that had steps up one end and a kids slide down the other end. The question was, how many steps were there. maybe nowadays with the improved satellite views you could cheat on that one, but not back then. Plus that you have to email the info to the CO so you know they actually read it and OK your info. And how many COs, if they will admit it, of regular caches actually read the log sheet and compare it to the online log?

I would like to see virtuals come back also, but you people are beating a dead horse. I think some of the reviewers didn't want them because it put too much of a burden on them doing their job and the powers that be also had arguments against them, which I think could have been remedied with a couple of rule changes. But anyway don't hold your breath that they'll be back anytime soon.

No one is twisting anyone's arm, if you don't like them don't read them. Pretty simple.

It sounds like it is going to project a point. It wants to know the bearing in degrees and the distance then it will give you a new Latitude and Longitude.

You could plug the coordinates into Bing Maps or iTouchMap, but the only downside to that would be how heavy the tree cover is. I have found caches in guardrails and places where the trees were few and far between, but in an area that is heavily wooded, that's a different story.

Yes. I was doing some work in a city water station on the east coast. They had a length of wood pipe that had been laid down in the colonial days. It was a log 18" dia that had a hole 2" dia drilled down the center. I suspect it was a hand auger and an extention. They relied on the thickness of the wood "wall" to allow the auger to wander and still end up on the other end. I always wondered how the do the end joints. I suspect pine pitch and an open flame. Unless they had a way of turning the outside down after they drilled the hole these pipes had a uniform wall thickness of about an inch. Not much room to allow for an auger to wander.

This is off topic a bit but I thought it was interesting that there was a display in a little museum outside of Reedsburg, WI of 20ft. long wooden water pipes that according to the display they can't figure out how it was done. There is no offset in the hole like it was drilled from both ends and didn't meet exactly, so they believe it was drilled complete from one end. I guess those old timers were pretty smart.

The United States is a big country and terminology that is normal in one part of the country sounds strange in another part. We also have probably five or six different accents from different parts of the country. The first time I traveled in some of the southern states I had to listen real close to figure out what the person was saying. The same holds true for the US and Europe. Many years ago I worked with a guy from England and between his accent and his terminology it was quite some time before I fully knew what he was talking about at times.

When about 90% of the caches nowadays are micros it's pretty hard to pick out which one is a favorite. In fact anymore I consider myself a casual cacher, I think I've been out a couple of times in the past two months. I have a bag full of trade items just sitting around. The day of the ammo can is pretty much gone. Bring back virtuals and I might go more and also use some of my FPs.

Our Walmart has two different sizes in the craft department and they have one in the pharmacy, but I don't know if they are yet another size.

Exactly... You know what? They have. It is called the Samsung Rugby series. However, although it has an extended life battery, it probably will not get 15h. That said, my Garmin eTrex is only rated for 10h. I have a Samsung Rugby but I don't think it is considered a smart phone because AT&T requires that anyone that buys a smart phone has to take a data plan and I wasn't required to. The phone is only waterproof, as they put it, for a quick dunking in up to three feet of water. The phone has twenty days standby and nine hours talk time. There was a video on youtube that showed a guy throwing it about fifteen feet in the air and it landing on concrete without any apparent damage.

You will also be able to download GPX files and with a free program called CacheMagnet you can load the GPX file and do a condensed printout complete with hints. I can print a day's caching on about two sheets of paper and for anyone worried about using paper you can turn it over and print another day's caching on the other side.

Don J, I agree with every post you have made on this subject. I have had cell phones since the mid nineties, my first phone was a three watt bag phone. I got that phone to make phone calls and the phone I have today is to make phone calls, I have never owned a smart phone and don't want one, if I want to play with something I have two desktops, three laptops, a netbook, and a tablet. To me geocaching means using a computer to load up the GPS, go find the cache, and sign the log.