J-Way

That's if you're dealing with circles. The max 2D density with a 528-ft separation is a triangular/hexagonal arrangement: Green circles are the 528-ft radius, with caches at the center of each circle. Assuming an infinite 2D layout (neglecting border or edge affects), a perfectly laid out grid of caches means that each cache "uses up" 241,434 sq. ft., or 22,430 sq. m, or 5.54 acres. [Edit to reduce the size of the image, and add the comments below.] Anywho, back on subject, some locations do have a "shelf life" for caches. For example, some US state parks have a permit system in place. You have to fill out a permit for every cache placed, and it expires in 1 year. At the end of the year you have to apply again. The re-application might be approved, it might be denied. In a high-volume, high-traffic area (such as a regional park near a large city), mandatory re-application of caching permits might be a good thing. If an area shows excessive wear after a year, shut down the cache and give the area time to heal. Someone else can place a new cache a few hundred yards away in the meantime, which itself expires in a year. In other areas there is no need for this. Especially if the cache hider picked a good, rugged location that can handle lots of traffic, or picked a location that doesn't get much traffic. Either way, I doubt Groundspeak will EVER implement a world-wide system like this.

Team GPSaxaphone might say that, but I don't know him and don't want to put words in his mouth. Now, Team GPSaxophone would say Groundspeak thought of the stale date idea when designing the Geomate Jr so that the caches that come preloaded are likely to remain in place for some time. Ah, typos.. gotta luv 'em. Anyway, that's cool about the Geomate. I didn't know what selection criteria TBTB used to pick which geocache to load, other than they didn't include Puzzle caches.

Instead of looking for geocaches that match whatever side activity you want to do, it's often easier to look for areas to do your side activity first. Then identify caches in the area. Go to kayaking/canoeing websites and look for navigable waterways with public access. Then look for caches along the waterway. Same for hiking caches, horseback caches, ATV caches, etc.

Lots of people run regular PQs for local caches that only returns caches that have changed in the last week. Because it ignores caches that haven't changed, more caches get added to the database. This way they keep a library of past logs, and are always ready to go find a cache without having to wait for a PQ that might or might not show up in a timely manner. Some caches aren't found for months on end, so they never get updated on GSAK, but they're still valid caches. Unfortunately, there's no off-line way to determine whether a particular cache is just rarely found, or if it's been archived. You have to go to the web site to check for each questionable cache, which is just too much trouble for the dump-and-runners. Temp disabling the cache first solves this problem. The PQ sees the TD log as a "change" and GSAK databases get updated. It's much easier to spot and check out TD caches, or else just delete them from the off-line database without checking anything. But I agree with the Sax: don't geocache using stale data. It's one thing to maintain an off-line database (I do), quite another to go searching without checking to see if the data is good. Also, I guess Team GPSaxaphone is telling us to not cache using the stale data on the GEOMATE.JR?

Technically, "special equipment" is rarely absolutely required. Boat: Swim or wade Scuba: Hold your breath Climbing gear: Safety ropes are for sissies There's a local cache on an island, so most people get to it by boat. Or you can just wade a few hundred yards from shore, because the water is never more than 3-4 ft deep between the island and the shore. It's rated 4.5. Another local cache is rated 5 terrain because the owner claims you need a ladder. I just parked my truck under the cache and grabbed it. I don't consider my truck to be "special equipment", and would have rated this cache at about 2.5 stars. I've heard of other caches incorrectly rated 5-stars because hider was in a canoe/kayak when the cache was hidden... or you could walk down a 3-star public trail from a nearby road. The correct rating for this cache should be 3-stars. Or the 5-star cache on a road that requires a 4WD vehicle... or you could just walk 1/4 mile from a paved road. Locally, most of the whitewater rivers are directly controlled for power production. You can use a kayak to get to that island if the river is "on", or you could wait until evening when they shut the turbines down (turn the river "off") and just rock-hop. Use of "special equipment" is an indication that 5-stars might be justified, but you should always think about alternate ways to get to the cache.

Yep. Lots of US states have laws that exempt land owners from lawsuits if they allow people to use their land for recreational purposes (check the lists to make sure that applies to your area). Hiking and horseback riding groups lobby for these laws so they can convince landowners to let them use private land. As long as they don't leave obvious hazards laying around, most landowners are relatively well protected. But that still won't keep a grieving mother from suing when their kid falls down the abandoned well that you had no idea was even there. The suit might get dismissed at the first court date, but the legal fees up to that point could be huge. As for where property ends, that depends on where you are and how big the road is. For small rural roads the property line often goes to the center of the road. The government has a legal easement to build and maintain the road, but the property is still owned by the adjacent landowner. So caches placed on the shoulder are on private property, and parking on the shoulder CAN be controlled by the property owner. But because of the legal easement they can't stop people from driving on the public road. For urban streets the property line often goes to the edge of the pavement or curb. Which means the building owner also owns the sidewalk, but because of a public easement they can't stop people from walking on it. In downtown urban areas with high rise buildings, building owners take advantage of this by extending the basement under the sidewalk all the way to the edge of the street. If you look down into the grates in city sidewalks you're looking into someone's basement. For major highways, especially interstate highways, the states often own the land out to the right-of-way line.

And then there are caches where the baggie is the entire container. Wrap a baggie in camo duct tape and call it a cache!

Yep. And "YBT", and "Zntargvp". And I know Green = Terra.

Well good luck to you and your box that is easy to hide. And thank you for the profanity.Profanity?? Oh... I thought he meant that the easy to hide box of his was going to be a 2-star...

Where, exactly, is the coin now? If it's in your possession, then choose "Retrieve from Unknown Location" If it's in a cache, then first choose "Retrieve from Unknown Location" to put it in your inventory, and then post a "Note" to the cache page and drop off the coin (select it from the list at the bottom of the log page).

Oddly enough, KK&M's list (which is public) is rated so low that it doesn't ever show up on the cache listing; you have to click to see it. And if the cache isn't on any other lists, then there's no way to know it's on the FTF list (see BIG ARM JONES; it's on the FTF list, but there's no way to know). I never knew that ratings had that much effect. Anyway, I still disagree with making a FTF list public, but I also let others play their game so I'm not going to vote on these or any other lists (unless they affect me personally). I've actually got a thread open over in this forum petitioning for a change in how Bookmark Lists are published. This FTF list would be in my revised "Shared" category; visible from your profile and linkable, but not visible from the cache page. As for SoCal: The hike was Awesome, the meetings were meetings . Sunny and about 85-90 (very little humidity). No rain back in Chattanooga, but stupidly hot (highs and relative humidity both in the upper 90's).

To further demonstrate the confusion (or else demonstrate my intelligence level), in spite of all the checking I did before starting this thread I would have sworn that a "Shared" (not public) list DID appear on your profile. But apparently I was wrong. Anywho, I'd be happy with either of the options below using exclusive radio buttons, but honestly I don't think the 4th level of accessibility ("Shareable") is required: Note that the second option changes the "Shared" lists so that they are visible from a user's profile.

Wasn't it also on private property and not waterproof? Yeah, I was just about to go back and edit to add that he also forgot to ask permission, but you beat me too it. Anyway, the point was to agree with what the majority of responders have already said: it depends on the person and the circumstances. There is no way to set any kind of experience limit.

Does the loop come back to the start in a different location, or is any backtracking involved? If you're walking back on the same trail you left on, you should expect quite a few DNF logs where people assume the "back" tacks are marking the trail back out and that the trail got messed up, or that they missed something. And I agree with knowschad - there's a trick to being tricky with night caches. Get too tricky, and you just make people mad and they avoid your caches.

This is your classic "Multi", but it can also be listed as a "Mystery/Unknown" (technically, any cache can be listed as a "Mystery/Unknown"). I'd list it as a Multi because finding the intermediate stages is fairly straightforward with no complicated cyphers, codes, or arithmetic.

Dave Ulmer didn't have any finds when he hid his first cache. Of course, it violated at least two of the most sacred guidelines (no food in cache, and no burying), but it somehow got listed anyway.

I agree it should be listed as a "Mystery/Unknown". Also, just to be safe, do NOT put the container at the posted coordinates. Put it about 100-ft away (outside your typical GZ search radius), with clear directions for locating the cache in the description. Anyone who reads the description will have no problem finding the cache. Any cache placed at the listed coordinates will eventually be claimed as a "find" by someone who didn't read the instructions. With any activity that involves the general public (anyone can play, and no one has to pass an entrance exam), you have to work with the least common denominator. With tradition caches, the LCD is the cacher who dumps the coordinates into their receiver (or buys the preloaded GEOMATE.JR) and heads for ground zero without benefit of description, clue, or past logs. So pleading instructions to only hunt during daylight hours, or avoid the professionally landscaped flower beds, or watch out for the wild alligators, are never even seen, much less read and followed. The LCD player has every right to play the game their way, and to be honest, I think that type of player outnumbers the rest of us by a significant margin. So the rest of us have to adapt. In the OP's case, the only options I can think of are to: 1) archive the cache and re-list as a Mystery (unless a reviewer will change the type, which I doubt because it's already been found), 2) remove all requirements and put a typical log in the container, or 3) keep fighting a losing battle by deleting bogus logs. Good luck!

My personal interpretation is that unless a site has a published geocaching policy that says I can hide without asking for permission, I always ask for permission.

It's just you Seriously, everyone "fails" for a while. I missed my first two caches, then found the third. It took me several months before I eventually found the first one, which was a VERY hard-to-find nano cache. Classic tips: - Start with small/regular caches. Micros can be very hard. - Stick to easy caches (difficulty of 2 or less) - Go caching with a friend. It's amazing how much an extra set of eyes helps. Good luck!

But three of them are me... (Me, myself, and I?) I know of many people with many accounts. Most reviewers have at least two accounts (one player, one reviewer).

Looks like this one slipped by the reviewer. It'll probably either get changed or archived soon. Did you try emailing the owner as requested? But I have heard of multis that span several states and/or countries. It's usually mentioned in the description, though.

This is the key. After a few dozen people find the cache the bush is usually damaged in the spots where they've looked the most. One of those spots should be the cache location.

No one cares if you deface your own property.

You can buy those legally.

I don't know. Go here (http://www.firetacks.com/), and call and ask. Also, check out the "bargains" tab. I think you can buy some tacks that weren't made right and the reflective stuff wants to pop off anyway.