ryan3295
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You can copy your (unzipped) pocket queries directly to the unit or sd card, just place them in the gpx folder.
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These should come standard with all gpsmap 62 series.
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I found this quote on gpstracklog.com
"maingray says:
February 24, 2009 at 7:51 pm
While the PN-40 can be used for highway routing, it’s really not comparable to having a dedicated auto GPS unit. You’ll only get a 2-D view, like the screen to the right. The worse drawback is that there are no spoken directions, just beeps and chirps. The maps are not as complete or current as those found on most auto units either.”
Not sure you tested this very much, PN-40 is on the verge of abysmal for road routing.
I feel it is pertinent to compare this to even the other Garmin “on the trail” handhelds loaded up with City Navigator, not just the dedicated car units.
The routable included maps are terrible..and there isn’t any premium option for road based navigation. Topo-based roads (as opposed to dedicated maps such as Navteq) which are often in the wrong location on the map (try overlaying different map sets..) and not tabulated for one-way etc. Bridges across interstates are often interpreted as ramps. State Road designation (“Take a left on SR1323″.. no, I want to take a left on Main Street!) often supersedes the road name. Auto-routing (i.e route re-calculation after taking a wrong turn is slow and buggy). POI are topo-based as well, so sparse and often irrelevant. Why Delorme can’t release a copy of their autonavigation maps for their handhelds is beyond me.
Great review otherwise, PN-40 is getting there. It just depends, as you state, how much you value imagery over other features. The geocaching paperless can only get better…. you might want to mention that someone has baked up a script to send GPX files to the unit rather than just one-by-one via the “send to” plugn on the gc.com page. You can find it on the Delorme community support forum (a great place for support Qs)."
I want to avoid using dual gps units, I have always used one for street navigation and trail use. I guess if the recommended approach to the pn-60 for street navigation is to buy a dedicated car navigator, am I to assume that street routing is that bad on the pn-60?
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What I'm getting out of this discussion is that if you asked the GPS to record 1 point per second, you're gonna get the most precise track that the GPS is capable of recording -- because that's really the maximum/fastest rate it can record points. If you set it to any "Auto" mode it's gonna try to economize on the number of points and you WILL lose some detail.
Have I got that wrong?
Nope, especially going back to OP's question.
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The main problem is that you don't seem to understand that you really ARE NOT getting what you THINK you are getting.
See if this makes sense.....Normal walking speed=3mph
At 3 mph that is 5280 X 3=15,840 ft /hr....then divide that by 3600 to get ft / second of time which = 4.4 ft/sec.
Set at 1/sec and traveling at 3 mph walking speed, your unit will log the maximum number of points it is capable of and that will be once every 4.4 ft. ( HINT: 4.4 ft is further than 1 yd ! ) Traveling faster than 3 mph will result in TP being logged at an even greater distance apart, or you could change your method of traveling to crawling to get the points closer together.
Isn't that the same math I did in the beginning? Thanks for restating my point.
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Well I went ahead and tried the paper shim method that is shown on the german forum, and it worked great. My 62st is now like a rock. I did have to apply shims on both sides, but it was no big deal and took about 15 min.
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Okay I have a bad case on the garmin woes...and the pn-60 seems to be offering what I am looking for. But I can find very little as to how good it is with street routing, will it be comparable to my current hand held garmins (oregon, gpsmap 62). Has anybody used both devises able to comment?
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I think the only reason the "german" method works is, they are adding rigidity to the case. Nothing to move, nothing to squeak. But I don't believe the squeaking is coming from the silicone gasket, it has to be coming from a plastic on plastic contact. Maybe from the two halves of the case rubbing from an undersize silicone gasket??
yogazoo, when you applied lube to the clamshell did you do it to both sides or just the gasket?
In the end it doesn't really matter what the solution is, I just paid $450 dollars for this thing and this is the best garmin could do. We should not have to sit here and fiddle around with these things to get them to work as expected. I am on my third squeaker, I find it pretty hard to believe that garmin could have missed this prior to their production run.
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I too believe that the squeaking is coming from where the two clams meet. If you loosen the case screws right around the middle where the squeaking comes from the sound vanishes. Perhaps a thicker o-ring or rubberized clamshell contact points would do the trick.
How much did you have to loosen the center screws on yours to make the squeaking stop?
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From the German site where the squeaking issue is a hot topic.
"I've given the info to Garmin USA and from there the feedback, is aware of the problem and Garmin will glue a rubber devices in which the Knarzen (squeaking) will be off."
This was translated from German via my web browser so it's a bit rough but you get the point.
So...does that mean they (garmin or someone on the german site) have discovered a fix for the squeaking problem? Looking at the pictures (on the german site) it looks like they are using a rubber shim to eliminate the squeaking. I tried something similar except I attached some tape to the "ribs" with no avail. So either the squeaking is coming from the bottom on the ribs or between the two halfs of the case.
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Just got a third squeaker from Garmin. Don't expect to get a unit that doesn't squeak when you RMA a unit that squeaks. I'm going to have to learn to live with it. Oh well.
My guess is that they will fix the issue in future production runs, silently, without much adue. So for now, we live with squeaks.
Oh, and a note to all you non-squeakers out there; give it time, your unit will squeak. Oh yes, they will all squeak eventually. It gets worse over time and I've seen even my friends non-squeakers develop squeaks after a few weeks of use.
Business opportunity with this:
" T " Shirt with a squeak related logo.
>>> I own a SQUEAKER
>>> SQUEAK
>>> REAL TOOLS DON'T SQUEAK
>>> SERIOUS TOOLS DON'T SQUEAK ( For those with certain types of GPS'r units )
>>> I AM SQUEAKER, HEAR ME ROAR > SQUEAK <
I'll take one, mabe two!! It would be money better spent than on a squeaky gpsmap.
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Best you can get would be to set the recording method to time and the interval to one second. Doing some math...if you averaged walking speed was 3 mph this would give you a track log point every 4.4 feet. However, the track log would be full after about 2.5 hours.
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in other words:
15 hours with 4 bars
and if it changes from 4 bars to 3 bars the unit has only 95 minutes until power down.
so if you see 3 bars it works maximal 95 minutes.
the battery indicator of the gpsmap 62s has a big bug
this behaviour was tested on several gpsmap62s with different eneloop-batteries
I experience the same behavior, if your battery indicator isn't on full its about time to change the batteries.
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Do you have any maps showing from the sd card at all? Will your computer recognize the sd card if you connect the gps to the computer? This has happened to me before with my Oregon 450, turned out to simply be that the sd card was not correctly inserted even though the tab was in the locked position.
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sorry for the rant but it just seems everyones crying about next to nothing
No, it's not "next to nothing". It's about Garmin putting out a piece of crap case that is almost EXACTLY the same as the 60CSx predecessor case and expecting customers to take it in the arse, as demonstrated by the reply in the post above. THAT case was just fine. Very solid but Garmin had to go and screw up a good thing that they had ALREADY FIGURED OUT? That's what most people are pissed about.
All of mine squeaked with normal pressure, simply turning the gps on or off caused the noise. That can hardly be acceptable for a gps that is advertised as rugged.
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The gps version also changed with the 2.44 beta, from 4.48 to 4.52. You can access this info from the diagnostic screen (holding enter while powering up). Cannot wait to try it out!!
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Garmin is just rolling out the updates today.
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Any updates on the altimeter issue?
I exchanged emails with Garmin Support. They confirmed that the information about the problem has been sent to Engineering, but did not confirm whether Engineering had looked at it yet. They estimated that it would be a few days or weeks before we get any feedback of any sort from Engineering.
I sent a polite letter to the VP of Marketing and the VP of Sales informing them of the issue. (No replies; I don't expect any.)
I discussed the issue on several additional websites, to increase the issue's visibility (and thus the pressure on Garmin to fix it).
I ordered two vuvuzelas from Amazon ... but that's for a different project.
...Sam
There is new beta software out that might address your issues:
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* Improved accuracy of trip odometer.
So did they updated the gps chipset firmware again??
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Just a few more and I can start building my dream house made of Garmin boxes!!!
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If they all squeaked then OK, it's just how it is. BUT the fact that only some squeak and some don't tells me that there is something other than design going on here. Squeaking doesn't affect the unit's operation, no, but it is difficult to overlook especially when it is obnoxiously loud.
Why should I, a consumer who paid X-amount for a piece of equipment get something that is anything less than the other guy who paid X-amount. It's not acceptable.
Edited to add: After some verbal wrangling, all polite of course, I got them to RMA my second obnoxiously loud squeaker. Maybe now I can play with it in bed without alerting my wife to the fact that I'm not sleeping.
Glad to hear it.
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Well this is going to make everyone jealous. My third replacement for the squeaky 62s came today, a 62st, and it is solid -- no squeaks. I was beginning to think one did not exist!!
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Well, if they insist! OK!
Hi Delorme, how's it going?
As a Garmin customer for 10 years I have been thinking the same thing...that does not say much for Garmin.
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Called Garmin this morning to talk to them about my replacement (second one) flimsy-sided, squeaky unit and the tech-rep said he received an e-mail this morning from engineering stating that the flimsyness and squeaking are NOT defects and will no longer be exchanged.
Hmm, some units squeak and some units side plastic pushes in and feels flimsy and others don't. This isn't a defect? This electronic equipment that I just paid top-dollar for shouldn't feel and sound like a cheap piece of $#!T in my hand. Just be aware as a consumer, if your considering this product, that the designers and engineers call this normal and don't plan on addressing it in any way. So buyer beware, you may get a flimsy squeaker or you may get a solid unit, flip a coin.
So did they replace your second squeaky unit?? I am still waiting on my third RMA'd unit to arrive for the squeaking problem. I am beginning to think that I should have learned my lesson about being an early adopter, my scars are still healing from the Colorado!!
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