scoobybri

About a year ago, I took a geocoin out of a cache. A few weeks later I placed it into another cache to move it along. Recently, the owner sent me a message asking if I still had the coin. I looked into my account and saw that the coin was still listed as me having it. Hmmmm...I could have sworn that I logged it as dropped when I logged the cache that I left it in. The problem that I have is that it has been so long that I cannot remember which cache I left it in. The coin has never appeared as being picked up so we have no idea where its current location is. I don't want to randomly log it as being dropped in a cache just to get it out of my list. (It might be in about 15 different caches that I found around the time that I dropped it off.) So, how do we go about removing the coin from the list of held trackables without screwing everything up? Scoobybri

Cut the guy some slack. He did something that might make people upset, listened to the advice, and is going to fix the problem. Sounds like a good cacher to me. Sounds like the cache would be a great challenging traditional cache. Just drop the TB Hotel in the description and you've got a winner. Scoob

I've informed the owner of said cache about this thread.

The key word in travel bug is "travel." Their entire purpose is to move around. To put 20+ bugs in a level 5 terrain cache (on an island) goes against the spirit of the sport, IMHO. Whenever I find a bug or coin in some high difficulty cache in an out-of-the-way location, I take it and move it to a cache that is found regularly to give it the best chance to "travel." Why drop a TB in a cache that is found once every 6 months? If I lived anywhere near this cache, I would go "liberate" every one of those TBs and coins. If he dropped 3-4 in there, it would be one thing. But to put 20+ in a cache that might only see a few visitors a year is just plain rude to those who took the time and money to make the TBs and coins. If one person finds it a month (and that is probably very generous) it would be almost two years before the last bug is moved. I would be pretty upset if I released a bug, only to have it "shipwrecked" on an island in the middle of nowhere. Here's some info from one of the TBs in this cache..."My goal is to visit as many states as possible...This TB belongs to my 11 year old son Tyler. Please help him accomplish his mission." How is this TB Hotel helping Tyler enjoy geocaching? Tyler probably checks the website, excited looking to see his first bug move across the country. Instead he sees it picked up, held for a month and 1/2 and dumped in a level 5 cache on an island. Sorry Tyler.

I've got 10 ammo cans sitting in the garage. I'll try to put one or two out in the wild this weekend.

I claimed a "found" on this cache. It was obvious that the cache had been muggled, but I found the remnants of the log book in the location of the cache. The micro container was missing and the muggles had torn the logbook into many pieces but left the log in the cache hiding location. I scanned the remnants of the log and posted the scan with my Found post as well as a maintenance post for the owner. This is a different circumstance than most questionable "finds" though. Just because you get close, doesn't mean you found it. Isn't the whole purpose of the paper log in the cache to keep people honest? If you didn't can't sign the log, you did not find the cache, right? (That's not entire true though...I found a waterlogged cache where my signing would have destroyed the logbook...I notified the owner that it needed maintenance before claiming the find.) If I can't find at least the destroyed physical remnants of a muggled cache, I would never think to claim a find.

I see from your profile that you've only got 11 finds under your belt. Being a relative newbie, I can assure you that you will get better at finding caches! I was a total noob a few months ago and had a couple of DNFs that were frustrating. After finding another 40 caches, I went back and found them VERY quickly! My geosenses had improved and I now know what to look for. On every one, I was like "Duh! I can't believe I didn't look here." Just give it time. Look for some easier caches at first and then start doing some more difficult caches once you start to feel confident. Scooby

I found a few caches over the weekend of which two need maintenance. One had a waterlogged log book while the other had a full logbook. I logged the finds on the website but used "Maintenance Needed" on those two instead of "Found" to alert the owners of the problems. I received credit for the regular finds but did not get credit for the caches that I registered as "Maintenance Needed." If and when do I get credit for these caches? I did find them, obviously, since I found problems with them. TIA, Scoobybri

Finally got pics of my Liberty. Sorry they are not kewl axshun photos but I haven't had the chance to take any on-trail photos since I put on the lift 2 weeks ago. I'm taking it down to Sedona really soon. I should be able to get some nice photos on the Broken Arrow trail. In the meantime... Scoobybri

I have an '07 Jeep Liberty 4x4 and it fits my needs well. Gets me almost anywhere. Make sure you get the offroad package which has a full set of good skid plates and heavy duty cooling. First thing to do is to ditch the lame tires that come on it. Why Jeep chooses to put highway tires on a trail rated vehicle is beyond me. I also put a 2.5" lift on it. Carries 5 people and gear into the wild and can be a daily driver as well. $21.5k from my local dealer.

An Element and a Liberty are in total different classes of vehicles. A Liberty can actually get you up the mountain, not just to the parking lot at the base. With that said, the Element is a great vehicle is it's own right though. Very versatile and "It's a Honda." If you don't need the offroad capabilities, an Element is a good choice. I can see why you cross shopped it. I have a 2007 Liberty Sport 4x4 with the offroad and towing packages and am 1 week from putting on a 2.5" Rusty's Offroad Coil lift on it with 31" Grabber AT2s. Rockrails are coming soon after that. I'll post some pictures once everything is installed. I have had my Libby up some really knarly trails in stock form (looking for a cache, of course) and other than some scraping on the skids due to the limited clearance, it did very well. Can't wait for the lift and better tires!

As a caching newbie, I an definitely partial to the "ammo can in the wild" than the "urban micro on a lightpost." BUT if the micro is a clever hide or in a neat location, I don't mind them at all. What I do hate is the "micro in the wild." If you choose a location where cache size does not matter, why place a film canister in a knot hole of a tree when you could have hidden a container the size of a Geo Metro and still has the same amount of stealth? MHO... Scoobybri

Personally, if I had a landowner who was that concerned about liablity, I would find some other place to plant the cache. There are thousands of miles of public land (national parks excepted) where you can hide a cache where there are no liability concerns. Even if you do convince them that it would be ok, I would bet that they would be nervous everytime they would see a cacher on the property. Just my opinion, I could be wrong. Scoobybri